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Re: SMGs are really weak
« Reply #45 on: 26-12-2012, 13:12:36 »
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Re: SMGs are really weak
« Reply #46 on: 26-12-2012, 16:12:30 »
I made my experiences with SMG too and i find them weak. Don't know if it's the bad hit detection, but there were so many times i shot my opponent in his back, while he had enough time to turn around and shot me with a rifle. Although i hit him 3-4 or even 5 times with my SMG.

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Re: SMGs are really weak
« Reply #47 on: 27-12-2012, 10:12:38 »
The last Weeks i gave the SMG's a Try. I enjoyed the Thompson alot, but i don't like the MP40 at all. It feels kinda weird to fire this Gun, also the Damage and Fire Rate seems to be lower. To give the SMG's more Sence, increased Suppression Effect would be one possible Way.

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Re: SMGs are really weak
« Reply #48 on: 27-12-2012, 21:12:38 »
The last Weeks i gave the SMG's a Try. I enjoyed the Thompson alot, but i don't like the MP40 at all. It feels kinda weird to fire this Gun, also the Damage and Fire Rate seems to be lower. To give the SMG's more Sence, increased Suppression Effect would be one possible Way.

Thats because the MP40
-Had a slower ROF
-Had a round wich had twice less power.

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Re: SMGs are really weak
« Reply #49 on: 27-12-2012, 23:12:20 »
For some reason I prefer MP40 over Thompson most of the time. Overall it seems to be a better choice for me and almost every map has it. If I must name the worst SMG in the mod I would say it's M3 Greasegun.

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Re: SMGs are really weak
« Reply #50 on: 28-12-2012, 00:12:57 »
It's totally your preference. I can hit medium range targets with the Grease Gun better than I can with some rifles, and I'll take the Grease Gun over any SMG in the mod.
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Re: SMGs are really weak
« Reply #51 on: 28-12-2012, 01:12:27 »
Same here. Grease Gun is great on medium ranges. It has a lower rate of fire, which makes it worse in close combat than the Thompson for example but much better at medium ranges while it's still strong enough at close range. Grease Gun is a great allround weapon.

For clearing buildings and rushing I prefer the Thompson, but generally I like the Grease Gun better and the Mp40 is a fine SMG just like Sten and the Beretta are. I really don't mind too much though, they all do their job nicely.

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Re: SMGs are really weak
« Reply #52 on: 28-12-2012, 09:12:56 »
Mainly the SMGs have always been close combat weapons to me. Not sure what kind of distance you are talking about by medium range? My experiences of Grease Gun are from the map of Operation Luttich and only around the 2 central flags which is a built environment with short distances. Due to the amount of semi-automatic rifles and the Grease Gun's low rate of fire I might take one of the rifles over Grease Gun.

But after all this is just the matter of how you experience it. I never learnt to like that SMG than any other and when I said it's the worst SMG in the mod it was based on my experiences of it.

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Re: SMGs are really weak
« Reply #53 on: 28-12-2012, 12:12:29 »
Problem is the low precision of those things. When there is some fence in your way, the enemy will always kill you even at ranges under 10m. It sprays too much at this low distance. And don't tell me a wooden fence is a valid obstacle to hide from bullets.
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Re: SMGs are really weak
« Reply #54 on: 28-12-2012, 13:12:20 »
also the thompson/grease gun have way to much recoil
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Re: SMGs are really weak
« Reply #55 on: 31-12-2012, 20:12:32 »

For the love of God! ARE YOU TRYING TO RAMBO-SNIPE WITH THE TOMMY-GUN?!?!?!
SMGs are very powerful and need no nerfing. Just because you get killed by a rifle a couple of times even if you get some hit markers on him, you usually don't blame the gun. You blame the rifleman or yourself.

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Re: SMGs are really weak
« Reply #56 on: 31-12-2012, 20:12:45 »
Damn the Wright brothers!

SMGs are usually fine. Noobs need to learn how to use single-shot. My SMGs are only on full auto when I'm moving from one place to another, as soon as I'm standing still it's back to 1-shot.
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Re: SMGs are really weak
« Reply #57 on: 01-01-2013, 22:01:31 »
SMGs are excellent weapons, very powerful, just needs some proper training :D, with a little bit of skill, you can be really accurate on full-auto.
also the thompson/grease gun have way to much recoil
Word. I also think that there should be a difference in recoil between M1928 and M1. After all M1928 has compensator, front grip, and heavy drum mag, that should make it a bit better i think.
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Re: SMGs are really weak
« Reply #58 on: 03-01-2013, 20:01:39 »
I fired a tommy M1928A1 and i tell you this=there is Barely any recoil on it. The weight, compensator, forward grip and such, they all contribute to a Smooth smooth firing experience.

The grease gun in turn is heavy and has a low firing rate wich helps its controlabillity there
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Re: SMGs are really weak
« Reply #59 on: 03-01-2013, 20:01:50 »
The recoil gets annoying on the Tommy-gun, when you aim down your sight. But mostly you don't need it to bee accurate for a long time.
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