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Re: Picture of the Day (Other eras)
« Reply #570 on: 08-02-2010, 00:02:34 »
Ahhh the Northern Alliance.. What a bunch of crazy old afghan's those are..
A pretty useful group to be friends with when you fight in Afghanistan thought.


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Re: Picture of the Day (Other eras)
« Reply #571 on: 08-02-2010, 08:02:26 »
Still failing with the camouflage I see.

Dont hate the camo, yo :)

Still rocking the iron sights nice. What variant of M16?

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Re: Picture of the Day (Other eras)
« Reply #572 on: 09-02-2010, 09:02:45 »
I still think the Leopard 2A6M is the best overall tank. It is much cheaper than an M1, has similar armour, the long barreled 120mm gun with an option to rebarel a 140mm and has a diesel engine. Where i think the t72 comes short is fire control and digital battlefield managment. The Russians just cant seem to build good fire control systems and thats my only real complaint. Western tanks hit with the first shot with a high precentage and it only takes one shot these days.


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Re: Picture of the Day (Other eras)
« Reply #573 on: 09-02-2010, 09:02:45 »
I agree. Ive always been a fan of our neighbors Leopard 2 (Greek Leopard 2A6HEL)


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Re: Picture of the Day (Other eras)
« Reply #574 on: 09-02-2010, 13:02:34 »


No love for the type 90? :D

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Re: Picture of the Day (Other eras)
« Reply #575 on: 09-02-2010, 14:02:17 »
I like Merkava IV


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Re: Picture of the Day (Other eras)
« Reply #576 on: 09-02-2010, 16:02:20 »
I still think the Leopard 2A6M is the best overall tank. It is much cheaper than an M1, has similar armour, the long barreled 120mm gun with an option to rebarel a 140mm and has a diesel engine. Where i think the t72 comes short is fire control and digital battlefield managment. The Russians just cant seem to build good fire control systems and thats my only real complaint. Western tanks hit with the first shot with a high precentage and it only takes one shot these days.


But leopards Are the best tanks in the world. A good main battle tank combines Firepower, Armor, mobility, numbers and maintance/support and such

The leopard 2 scores the best on all those level's. M1 Abram's are simply to costly to operate, and are to fuel hungry. And while the T-90 is an excellent tank in firepower, armor, mobility and maintance/support, it is still a new tank, with only a mere thousand built.
The T-90 has one of the best fire support systems in the world though. I think the Leopard's one is still better



A BMP-3 of the Russian ground forces. The BMP-3 is todays best armed IFV. Combining a 100MM Main gun, a 30MM Autocannon and a coaxial MG. Together with ATGM's for the 'just in case"
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Re: Picture of the Day (Other eras)
« Reply #577 on: 09-02-2010, 19:02:07 »

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Re: Picture of the Day (Other eras)
« Reply #578 on: 10-02-2010, 04:02:46 »
Agreed, the Leopard is the best tank in world, closely followed by Challenger 2 and M1 Abrams. I don't really have faith in the Leclerc, nor do I think that the T-90 is anything special, really. I don't believe that anything fantastic can come of a T-72 modification, no matter how drastic the improvement is. Its the difference between an M60 and a Chieftain; there's only so much you can do with the same chassis.

Granted, I am wholly unfamiliar with the new asian tanks. I hear good things about the new SKorean one, though.

Theta, American tactics don't allow for use of any vehicle in that manner, and I think you are overstating the effectiveness of the BMPT. Notably, it is used for suppression, not clearing. Abrams or BMPT, you still need infantry, and helicopters and drones are more useful there also.



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Re: Picture of the Day (Other eras)
« Reply #579 on: 10-02-2010, 12:02:47 »
Don't really see the point of the BMP-3's ludicrous armament. Maybe the Soviets felt inadequate. lol.

Anyway a derelict Opel Kadett E in Kosovo, 1999 and some tank.


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Re: Picture of the Day (Other eras)
« Reply #580 on: 10-02-2010, 15:02:40 »
Agreed, the Leopard is the best tank in world, closely followed by Challenger 2 and M1 Abrams. I don't really have faith in the Leclerc, nor do I think that the T-90 is anything special, really. I don't believe that anything fantastic can come of a T-72 modification, no matter how drastic the improvement is. Its the difference between an M60 and a Chieftain; there's only so much you can do with the same chassis.
The T-90 is actually a interm solution. It will remain in a constant, low rate production untill 2025. This is to allow funds high for the T95. A brand new, state of the art russian tank with technology, Armament and protection never seen before

The T-90 is mere derived from the T-72. Their issent much simular towards it, exept maybe its appearnces. The T-90 is basicly a high grade batte tank derived from a Cheap, simple mass produced MBT like the T-72.
T-90 for instance, has a much more advanced Main gun, backed up by the latest Fire support system, with excellent armor (One T-90 recieved 7 hits by RPG's of various types, and was still in action) backed up by 3 important defensive systems=Shtora ATGM infra red jamming, ARENA Active defense system and KONTAKT-5 ERA. The T-90 that was hit 7 times only had KONTAKT-5. So unlike the T-72, its a pretty good tank

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Granted, I am wholly unfamiliar with the new asian tanks. I hear good things about the new SKorean one, though.
Many countries are developing their own MBT's now. South Korea with the K2 black Panther, Japan with the Type 90, with another new tank in development. Turkey is now also designing its own tank now. Not to mention china and India.
Stiff competition from the East. Its true what some people said= We really need to watch out for the chinese.

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Theta, American tactics don't allow for use of any vehicle in that manner, and I think you are overstating the effectiveness of the BMPT. Notably, it is used for suppression, not clearing. Abrams or BMPT, you still need infantry, and helicopters and drones are more useful there also.
Indeed. That is true. But having a BMPT in a city, and not having one, matters alot. You can rain an arsenal of diffrent types of Anti personall weapons. No other weapon system has this in the world. And it is a fact that combat has shifted towards the Urbans


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Take something more practical than your silly TOR-1!
Still the TOS-1 has proven itself  ;) ;)

These days, many countries developed their own MBT. But one other unit is developed by many countries.

The self-propelled 155MM Howitzer. This one is a polish AHS Krab
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Re: Picture of the Day (Other eras)
« Reply #581 on: 10-02-2010, 23:02:51 »


Winter training in Norway:


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Re: Picture of the Day (Other eras)
« Reply #582 on: 10-02-2010, 23:02:57 »


A few hours ago on Ärna airfield. The bodies of two Swedish officers who earlier in February lost their lifes in Afghanistan.



Unloading from the Hercules



Troops from the Life Guard regiment attended the ceremony



ISAF troops at the military airport of Marmal, Afghanistan during the ceremony a few hours earlier before the ceremony on Ärna airfield


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Re: Picture of the Day (Other eras)
« Reply #583 on: 11-02-2010, 15:02:59 »

Dutch reported wanted a group photo with SF.
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Re: Picture of the Day (Other eras)
« Reply #584 on: 11-02-2010, 16:02:00 »
asking some 19year old dude that just did lumpen (swedish compulsory military service) if he wants to "extend" his service and then go fight ev0l instead of going to some dead-end job, unemployed or to some boring school (it's not gonna give you a job anyway dude, you know how the economy is nowadays, right?) - this is not "free will", it's manipulative and abusive!

I just saw some 19year old child on the news who will replace these guys that got killed. His respons to the question "How does it feel to go there now after this have happened" was... "it makes me wanna go there even more"....  :-\ free will.....yyyeaaa...... riiiite....  :-X
Firstly, it's not like every person before ending their military service are told about how cool it would be to go on international missions and how much their life will suck from here on. The initiative always comes from the person themselves being interested.

Secondly, free will doesn't mean the freedom to think what you think just because you know it's right. And if a 19-year old is still a child, sucks to be him/her. Maybe if everyone wasn't so cocooned and protected from the big bad world they would grow up before hitting 30.

Hell, I'd be fine with overseas duty, except that I hate the physical stuff and wearing a ton of clothing in heat. But if I could drive around Afghanistan with a truck/APC for a few months and get paid for it, why not?


Anyway, to stay on topic:
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