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Title: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: bf109e4 on 10-06-2010, 14:06:17
Recently I begin to love bomber and try to bomb enemy target(esp tank) but the accuracy is only abt 50%, trying to drop bombs sometimes too early sometime too late, in fact it's like by chance to get a kill. Any tricks on using bomber will be appricated... ???
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: bakehouse on 10-06-2010, 15:06:22
Try using a dive bomber tactic, it generally works with the bombers in-game. Best time to drop the bombs when in dive is right when the target just goes out of sight in cockpit (cant see it through window) as if you look back once dropped it will generally hit close to the target and due to large explosive radius kill the target.

.....anyway that's how i do it, just be careful not to fly to close to ground when dropping the bombs as you can kill yourself easily. i have died on many occasion from this but once perfected is a nice easy way to drop bombs  ;D
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: Cain on 10-06-2010, 15:06:15
Try using a dive bomber tactic, it generally works with the bombers in-game. Best time to drop the bombs when in dive is right when the target just goes out of sight in cockpit (cant see it through window) as if you look back once dropped it will generally hit close to the target and due to large explosive radius kill the target.

.....anyway that's how i do it, just be careful not to fly to close to ground when dropping the bombs as you can kill yourself easily. i have died on many occasion from this but once perfected is a nice easy way to drop bombs  ;D

Agreed but with the P51 bombing can be a little tricky. Because the blast radius of those bombs are huge. I've seen alot of people making that mistake in servers including myself :3
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: Die Happy on 10-06-2010, 15:06:24
yeah i takes a while until people understand that dropping a 500kg bomb 10 meters above ground is not a good idea if you wanna keep flying
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: NTH on 10-06-2010, 22:06:09
Fly high, wait for tanks spots or choose well known AA or Anti tank gun places.
Now perform a steep dive, press shift (if Stuka) to put the fear of God in them, release bomb when target is visible. Release the bomb just before you start pulling up.

With the Allied planes you can take a horizontal approach and release the bombs two seconds before overshooting the target.
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: Sander93 on 10-06-2010, 22:06:23


.....anyway that's how i do it, just be careful not to fly to close to ground when dropping the bombs as you can kill yourself easily. i have died on many occasion from this but once perfected is a nice easy way to drop bombs  ;D

I don't think Doopie ever got killed in the Stuka by the enemy. He always seems to blow himself up before they can. :D
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: bf109e4 on 12-06-2010, 01:06:25
It really take some practice to make the dive bombing perfect. However, if the target is moving fast, a dive bombing will be much more diffficult. I like the horizontal apporach but the timing is always the problem.

Also it take me flying over the "supply depot" 3-4 times to refil bombs, is there any better way to refill bombs while flying over only once?
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: siben on 12-06-2010, 09:06:19
I don't think so, the point of the game is that you land to rearm and repair your plane so you should not be able to do that in the first place.

The reason is that otherwise planes would be bombing non stop making it impossible the enjoy the game for the infantry because they are constantly bombed.
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: ajappat on 12-06-2010, 12:06:22
Just use beaufighter  ;). I suck with other planes, but beau just drops those bombs always where I want.
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: General_Henry on 12-06-2010, 15:06:31
I don't think so, the point of the game is that you land to rearm and repair your plane so you should not be able to do that in the first place.

The reason is that otherwise planes would be bombing non stop making it impossible the enjoy the game for the infantry because they are constantly bombed.

yeah that, I still remember in FH1 when I drive another tank out of the main for like a few seconds the stuka who had just bombed me returned  :(, it is worse if the bomber flies fast. Those are some hopeless "plane-rapes".
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-06-2010, 17:06:21
I don't think so, the point of the game is that you land to rearm and repair your plane so you should not be able to do that in the first place.

The reason is that otherwise planes would be bombing non stop making it impossible the enjoy the game for the infantry because they are constantly bombed.

yeah that, I still remember in FH1 when I drive another tank out of the main for like a few seconds the stuka who had just bombed me returned  :(, it is worse if the bomber flies fast. Those are some hopeless "plane-rapes".
and with barely any AA to counter them
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: bf109e4 on 14-06-2010, 04:06:56
Just use beaufighter  ;). I suck with other planes, but beau just drops those bombs always where I want.

So far I used only Ju87, never had a chance to use beaufighter.......cuz I am always on the German side... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: bf109e4 on 14-06-2010, 04:06:20
After trying for X number of times using Ju87 for bombing, I found out a "way" to increase my kill.

First, fly towards the target with the plane's nose pointing directly the target, when u r abt to reach(or the word "crash" is more accurate) the target, drop the bomb and at the same time "tip" up the plane. Then the bomb will directly hit onto the target. Just one point to note, since Ju87 carry 2 kinds of bomb, the second type of bomb (80kg if I am not wrong) is very devastating, meaning the blast radius is rather wide, and I got "blasted" out from the sky a few time using my method of bombing, so I do horizontal bombing when using this 80kg bomb.

Do try it out and give me some feedback........ ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: Eat Uranium on 14-06-2010, 04:06:09
The best tactic for the Stuka is to copy real life.  Climb as high as possible and wait for a spot on the map of a tank or other target.  You then dive, vertically, down on it and aim using the crosshair.  Release your bomb asap and pull up to avoid the inevitable AA/fighters.

250 kg bomb is best for heavier tanks, the 4 50kg bombs are more spread out and are idea for infantry or multiple lighter tanks.
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: bf109e4 on 14-06-2010, 07:06:56
The best tactic for the Stuka is to copy real life.  Climb as high as possible and wait for a spot on the map of a tank or other target.  You then dive, vertically, down on it and aim using the crosshair.  Release your bomb asap and pull up to avoid the inevitable AA/fighters.

250 kg bomb is best for heavier tanks, the 4 50kg bombs are more spread out and are idea for infantry or multiple lighter tanks.

I agree with u, but just tht u hav to wait until someone report u the enemy location, cuz u virtually can't c anything with tht height...
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: Kubador on 14-06-2010, 13:06:26
Run mersa matruh with over 60 bots and practice spotting your targets with mouse look. Then dive 90 degrees, release bombs, pull up... profit.
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: bf109e4 on 15-06-2010, 03:06:32
Run mersa matruh with over 60 bots and practice spotting your targets with mouse look. Then dive 90 degrees, release bombs, pull up... profit.

Er..........I don get it, u mean I can get 60 bots???? how?

Right now I am still playing SP.... :'(
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: Kubador on 15-06-2010, 08:06:01
Download the attachments and unzip it. Find your FH2 AI folder (.../battlefield 2/mods/fh2/ai) and replace it with the unzipped files there. You may want to backup those files just in case.

The ai is set for 70 bots with 0.7 difficulty ratio. You can change that by opening 'aidefault' file wih notepad and chnaging the values in th lower lines, it's all explained in the file.

Have fun.
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: Sander93 on 15-06-2010, 13:06:25
The best tactic for the Stuka is to copy real life.  Climb as high as possible and wait for a spot on the map of a tank or other target.  You then dive, vertically, down on it and aim using the crosshair.  Release your bomb asap and pull up to avoid the inevitable AA/fighters.

250 kg bomb is best for heavier tanks, the 4 50kg bombs are more spread out and are idea for infantry or multiple lighter tanks.

Depending on the map (view distance), you can spot enemy tanks yourself by flying at a 90 degree angle [so that one of your wings is facing the ground] and using CTRL to look down. It takes some practice to do this while keeping your plane level (it'll naturally want to go down; give a slight bumb in the opposite direction before pressing ctrl) but it's pretty usefull on maps like El Alamein. And you're already in a good ''backflip diving'' position flying like this aswell, so you won't have to pull any stunts to do the real-life Stuka bombing approach as described before.

(http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/4093/stuka.png) (http://img64.imageshack.us/i/stuka.png/)
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: Kelmola on 15-06-2010, 14:06:40
IIRC, Sander93's tactic is closer to real-life Stuka doctrine than Kubador's - the Stukas tended to fly past their targets and drop the wingtip to spot targets, and then rolled to dive near-vertically upon them, instead of diving first and then spotting.

Plus, flying initially past the target at high altitude may help the AA gunners to think (as it historically did) that you're going somewhere else, so they might ignore you and start firing at other targets. Until you hit them from an unexpected direction, that is.
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: THeTA0123 on 15-06-2010, 16:06:23
Download the attachments and unzip it. Find your FH2 AI folder (.../battlefield 2/mods/fh2/ai) and replace it with the unzipped files there. You may want to backup those files just in case.

The ai is set for 70 bots with 0.7 difficulty ratio. You can change that by opening 'aidefault' file wih notepad and chnaging the values in th lower lines, it's all explained in the file.

Have fun.
Tried it. It is one hellava fun

Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: Cadyshack on 16-06-2010, 09:06:00
You can do a quasi-dive bomb with just about any plane. Going at about a 60-70 degree dive allows you to get a better feel for the bomb's glide path while being able to adjust for a moving target.

Another helpful tip is to try and stay fast. Getting in quick means your target can't get far, and the speed can help escape the blast. It also keeps your maneuverability up if you're in unfriendly skies.

Practice does do wonders, too as once you get the feel down you can be more confident and aggressive in your attacks (a fun one is dogfighting, seeing a ground target, and rapidly bomb it while seamlessly staying in the dogfight).
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: bf109e4 on 30-06-2010, 09:06:36
u r right, it's a hell of the fun, with so much bot to shoot at....... ;D ;D ;D

As for the bombing part, with some practice it's not tht difficult. I get 70-80% of the kills now.........using Sander93 way........I think the trick is flying past the target, then dive head on, sure to get it!!!!

By the way, I heard tht FH2.26 is out, is there any add on/improvement for SP? If there isn't any, I don think I will download it for the moment
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: Raziel on 30-06-2010, 10:06:06
Hey Bf109,
Single player is definitely improving. Check out the Feedback forum (Single player topic) and download Drawde AI mod....we are currently waiting for a new release where Drawde has managed to get bots firing Artillery (howitzers/nebelwerfer)...He is also working on bots understanding communication from the Commorose.
Enjoy!
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: bf109e4 on 01-07-2010, 05:07:50
Hey Bf109,
Single player is definitely improving. Check out the Feedback forum (Single player topic) and download Drawde AI mod....we are currently waiting for a new release where Drawde has managed to get bots firing Artillery (howitzers/nebelwerfer)...He is also working on bots understanding communication from the Commorose.
Enjoy!

O man, this is going to be damn fun........I am downloading it now, but is a bit slow....
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: Sgt.Radman on 04-07-2010, 18:07:21
1st tip that I would suggest is always be in a little drop, so if u are flying ground-parallel have the nose down about 5-10°. In the exact moment that u are pulling up, drop it. If u fail try Sanders' tactic. Dive bombing from higher altitudes is recommended, have the target in sight and drop it 2-tank-distances away, adjust/learn the trajectory.

Again, practice, practice, practice.
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: bf109e4 on 05-07-2010, 08:07:25
1sdt tip that I would suggest is always by in a little drop, so if u are flying ground-parallel have the nose down about 5-10°. In the exact moment that u are pulling up, drop it. If u fail try Sanders tactic. Dive bombing from higher altitudes is recommended, have the target in sight and drop it 2-tank-distances away, adjust/learn the trajectory.

Again, practice, practice, practice.

Agree, but it's dangerous if using the secondary bomb of the Ju87, the blast is so huge tht I got blasted twice, so I try flying higher when using tht bomb, but the accuracy suffer....
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: Comrade Roe on 15-02-2011, 23:02:30
 Upon dive bombing, I usually aim with the bottom of the targeting sights. Carpet bombing, I have no clue.

EDIT: Found that not using ironsights and going and a 45 degree angle or further downward will allow you to accurately place your bombs. In real life also, the Germans used the bombsights in the bottom of the plane to spot (Use your look around key in the plane and look downward to see it) and once they spotted something, being some 10,000 feet in the air, they would swerve around going downward, diving towards the target, and then release bombs, then flying away.
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: Pr0z4c on 22-05-2011, 22:05:55
do you use a stick or just mouse/keyboard?  or keyboard only?

for flying i use a stick, this helps alot with handeling the airplane, and it would definitely help you learn flying better...(but i still suck at flying in fh2.)  :P

most times i dont bother to fly, mainly because i have a problem with the no camview policy.
I know this hase been discussed, and it wont be changed... due to realism blablabla

for me this is the only downside to fh2, after being used to fly in fh1 with camvieuws for way too long

(btw we should have a poll for cam vieuws )  ::)
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: Slayer on 23-05-2011, 23:05:20
(btw we should have a poll for cam vieuws )  ::)
You can make one yourself if you like :)
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: Devilman on 29-05-2011, 02:05:34
Bombs away  :)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q137/DEVILMAN_09/screen003.png)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q137/DEVILMAN_09/screen007.png)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q137/DEVILMAN_09/screen008.png)
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 29-05-2011, 15:05:07
Sorry but cant you keep your fancy SP coding to one thread and not spread it around like a rapid STD? How does those pics relate to anything? These are tactics and tutorials, not "oh I can code a plane to dish out tens of bombs" thread.

And you've done this to other threads aswell. You shove it into places where it doesnt belong.

This is your first warning. If you have anything to say, feel free to PM me.
Title: Re: How to bomb target accurately?
Post by: Berkolok_Bf42Veteran on 09-09-2011, 10:09:20
this all you need to know