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Re: How about a Chinese Front?
« Reply #30 on: 27-07-2009, 17:07:49 »
Let's face it, it's touch and go whether FH2 will even get past the Western Front to the Eastern, let alone get to the underrepresented parts of the Pacific. I for one however would love to see Chinese maps if the possibility ever arose - interesting equipment, uniforms and theatre of war. And of course it would indeed fit with FH's original intentions.
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Re: How about a Chinese Front?
« Reply #31 on: 27-07-2009, 17:07:16 »
Better to back to chinese front after Pacific release.

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Re: How about a Chinese Front?
« Reply #32 on: 27-07-2009, 18:07:25 »
hehe not to mention it would really be the only theater where the Japanese got to use their type 93 and type 100 flamethrowers.  There was also several Japanese tanks and APCs fighting in China that never really saw action in the pacific. ;D   

I know its a pipe dream but its sure fun to discuss.   Some of the maps and armament ideas you guys have brought up on this thread are really awesome.   Its cool to know im not the only one out there that knows a thing or to about this forgotten theater.

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Re: How about a Chinese Front?
« Reply #33 on: 27-07-2009, 19:07:35 »
hehe not to mention it would really be the only theater where the Japanese got to use their type 93 and type 100 flamethrowers. 

I believe they were used in some of the 1941-42 campaigns in the Pacific, including Wake Island and the Dutch East Indies.

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Re: How about a Chinese Front?
« Reply #34 on: 27-07-2009, 19:07:22 »
You're right.  Dutch East Indies, Burma and the Philippines and Wake.     The Japanese actually tried to use them as an anti-tank weapon later in the war as well. :-\ lol     

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Re: How about a Chinese Front?
« Reply #35 on: 23-05-2010, 00:05:56 »
I mostly agree with the things written here, but the MG34 was not used in China. There is no proof of a Chinese soldier using the MG34. I have not seen one picture.

But, of couse the MG34 was used, it says in wikipedia.
Well wikipedia is not the best source, plus who ever wrote that article did not state a source.

Surely some would have been imported in the German vehicles No, the MG13 replaced the MG34. source: chinesefirearms.com

But.. but.. Chinese factories were capable to reproduce the weapons No, they were basic factories. The MG34 was a complicated weapon, and even if the Chinese wanted the weapon, they could not produce them. Same source above.

From what I have studied on the subject the PRC seems to celebrate the communist battles against the Japanese while pretty much ignoring the contributions of the Nationalist forces as they are taboo in China.   The Nationalists collaborated with the Japanese invaders at first. The old "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"  situation until the communists captured their leader Chiang Kai-shek and gave him the option of either joining the communist forces fighting the Japanese or be executed.   He of course took the prudent choice and joined the fight against the Japanese.

One interesting note on that theater is it was the only time where German armor faced Japanese armor on the battlefield as the Chinese used Panzer II's in the war given to them by the Germans during the Sino-German cooperation (1911–1941).  Some units also fielded German helmets, German k98 Rifles, and some MG34s.
Not 1941, 1937. Japan requested the Germans to stop the aid at that time. I  am not sure about the 1911 or after period.

Chiang was not threatened with execution, it was merely a threat of "I won't let you go until you establish a united front." It was a warlord that kidnapped him, not the communists. Later the warlord was arrested and place under house arrest. He was on Taiwan after 1949  and was still under house arrest. A few decades later he was released and left and moved to Hawaii I believe.

A M5 Stuart was mentioned, none were in China. Only M3A3 Stuarts. I am not sure about the M18, I know on Taiwan they were used.

So... who ever makes a Chinese front mod, they would be very popular with a lot of people... in China. China WWII is very popular over there as many want to destroy the Japanese, although virtually, for what they did 70 years ago.
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Re: How about a Chinese Front?
« Reply #36 on: 23-05-2010, 01:05:38 »
That's the true philosophy of Forgotten Hope, right ? To destroy, althought virtually, the axis team for what they did 70 years ago ?  ::)
Almost a good thing there won't be a chinese theatre after all...

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Re: How about a Chinese Front?
« Reply #37 on: 23-05-2010, 02:05:09 »
how time flies.. my first post in the fh community was regarding a chinese army.. that was before 0.5 was released.. what was it 6 years ago? Point in case.. are you still going to play this mod in 1-2 years when this would be possible (at minimum!), is this mod still going to be active?



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Re: How about a Chinese Front?
« Reply #38 on: 23-05-2010, 03:05:59 »
It seems that FHSW is Doing Chinese Theatre, they have a few Skins and Flags...



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Re: How about a Chinese Front?
« Reply #39 on: 23-05-2010, 03:05:54 »
Well let me explain my comment. I don't have hatred against the Japanese, but I do let people know what happen during that war (I have to correct some people who think the Chinese bomb Pearl Harbor  ::)). Just in case you say I am biased, no, the Chinese, on both sides, also did horrible things to their own too.

Many Chinese people and other Asians, including the Koreans, still have not forgiven the Japanese. Many passed their "hatred" to the younger generation. Some Chinese call the Japanese, gui, or devils, in some Chinese forums I have visited. Some just call them Japanese.

I have played one game that one guy made a mod for. He only lets you play the Chinese side. He says he will later in time allow you play the Japanese, but he won't right now. I think it is a good game, but it was made for the middle ages period and not for modern warfare. It is hard to lead your troops in a line when they can not take cover. His mods are good, although he can work on the uniforms a little bit better. His mod basically recreated a game and added a lot of features what the game originally did not have. I rather see a Chinese mod in FPS instead.

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Re: How about a Chinese Front?
« Reply #40 on: 23-05-2010, 05:05:34 »
Well let me explain my comment. I don't have hatred against the Japanese, but I do let people know what happen during that war (I have to correct some people who think the Chinese bomb Pearl Harbor  ::)). Just in case you say I am biased, no, the Chinese, on both sides, also did horrible things to their own too.

Where are you encountering people who think the Chinese bombed Pearl Harbor?!

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Re: How about a Chinese Front?
« Reply #41 on: 23-05-2010, 12:05:33 »
reason for necroing this thread  ??? we don't make FH2 fronts based on how many got killed in some war... we won't do any chinese front just because "they deserve it" so plz give us a break, lol.  :-\

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Re: How about a Chinese Front?
« Reply #42 on: 23-05-2010, 12:05:46 »
Be glad that these guys are willing to do this in their free time. While they are working on the patch, i can and am sunning, biking, going to the cafe with friends, eating ice cream...

So please. Dont "Demand" things. Their mod. And their free time
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Re: How about a Chinese Front?
« Reply #43 on: 23-05-2010, 13:05:50 »
I'd love to do a defense of great wall map, but alas, I lack stuff.  :P

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Re: How about a Chinese Front?
« Reply #44 on: 23-05-2010, 14:05:51 »
I'd love to do a defense of great wall map, but alas, I lack stuff.  :P

port the vanilla map?