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Forgotten Hope 2 => Tactics & Tutorials => Topic started by: bf109e4 on 02-07-2010, 04:07:10
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Just curious, if aim accurately, can a mortar shell penetrate the tank's top compartment and blow it up?
I remember I watched a war movie(can't remember the name) when I was small, in Afrika the german was attacked by a group of crusader, the german use mortar to repel the english and manage to blow up a few, of cuz the english eventually overrun the german. So I was thinking in game is ti possible?
By the way, I also remember tht this movie there was a scene where the a british truck was assulted by a german sdkfz 232. The truck keep driving away while keep dropping mine!!!! :o :o :o The german 232 give chase and when it is about to fire, it halt suddenly then fire. In the end, the truck was blown up(if I am not wrong) and the german 232 drive onto those mine and was too blown up. Anyone have idea wht is this movie name?
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It's quite common on Lebisey to kill Stugs with mortars, I've done it myself twice even!
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If I recall, I managed to pull a stunt like this on The Siege of Tobruk. I was on the most southeastern trench, but I can't remember what type of mortar that is there, nor what armor it was (was it a halftrack...? I think it was a tank...).
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Should not be....But I think it is possible.
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it blows up tanks better than any kind of AT weapons in the game. especially in Leibsey, 3 mortars...
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I killed a Sherman with a mortar on Lebisey once. I couldn't believe my eyes, but it happened.
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its possible yes. Just as artillery smashed tanks in WW2. The HE blast is sometimes so great it exterior heavily damages tanks and kills the crew inside.
Another example was the AVRE, it had a few tiger kills on his name because of its enourmous blast.
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My Sherman got tked by our own mortar once :(
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I shot down a Bf109 with Commander Artillery.... Twice.... While BFCO'ing the axis team.....
Just thought I'd share.
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Another example was the AVRE, it had a few tiger kills on his name because of its enourmous blast.
And I thought dustbin AVRE's didnt participate in battles outside the landing beaches.
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You can kill most german tanks with the 25 pounder :|
But mortar I've only done once on a panther, I thought it was just a glitch or some sort of super special 1 inna million shot trap o_O
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I shot down a Bf109 with Commander Artillery.... Twice.... While BFCO'ing the axis team.....
Just thought I'd share.
it often happens when commander arty is landing on kidney ridge and some unfortunate pilots are strafing/bombing it...
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Another example was the AVRE, it had a few tiger kills on his name because of its enourmous blast.
And I thought dustbin AVRE's didnt participate in battles outside the landing beaches.
Ofcourse it did. Around the area's of Caen and such. AVRE's where deployed alongst side Crocodile's.
They where send out with the crocodile in front and the AVRE somewhere behind it. First the AVRE fired a round at the house/bocage/Whatever defense position. Then the crocodile moved in, first to intimidate. If the german troops did not abandonded their position (wich they mostly did) it would burn the living crap out the position.
After the bocage battles, AVRE's where used again in the battle of the scheldt. And i think in Holland aswel. But then on the new MKVII chassis if avaible. Crocodiles recieved that update first
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Oh I thought that was a Company of Heroes fab.
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Oh I thought that was a Company of Heroes fab.
I thought so as well. In a book I read I remember them talking about accurate mortar fire hitting the tops of some panzers and doing no damage at all beyond scaring the shit out of the crew. Now an AVRE shell landing on top of a tank I can understand but little shit ass mortar rounds?
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I think it could penetrate a panther and stug top armor. They had very little armor on top. The shock might have been enough to damage the engine
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I shot a sherman with LeFH's armoured shell once...it deflected >:(
I killed German and Allied tanks with mortar. Mostly in africa where the tanks are tincans ;D
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It was big blast, it might just act as a HESH round and cause severe spalling and the crew would be killed or at least wounded by the fragments.
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well the HESH is just a lumb of explosives in a shell ;D
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You have to look at it this way Lainer, it's 81mm HE projectile hitting the 10-30mm top armor of a tank. It might not penetrate but it will probably cause the inside top armor to spall to hell, basically like a grenade going off inside a tiny medal room, just without the pressure wave. This is true especially since they probably didn't line the top of the turret with spall liners.
So in real life its likely possible, just unlikely to happen more then a couple of rare occasions, and in the end is pretty much entirely luck.
In game, if you make contact with the tank directly with a mortar, you can often 1 shot it. Very close hits will often still do a bar or 2 of damage as well, like artillery rounds. Quervo 9the mortar fanatic) did it a few times in campaign 20 and a couple times this campaign over at WaW.
The AVRE in game will actually kill 2 Panthers or FOUR PIVHs if they are grouped together within the splash radius. The Tiger can also kill Greyhounds and Pumas with HE. So HE can definitely kill tanks with direct shots, depending on the size of the round.
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It's quite common on Lebisey to kill Stugs with mortars, I've done it myself twice even!
Done it also myself. Someone spotted the ground near the gas station, the StuG was going from HQ 2 that spot and luckily stopped there, fired a round, it landed on top where the engine is - WHAM 1 shot kill.
Done it later in the next round, a bit harder since it was moving, but both shots luck. And I'm sure, since the Panther has engine grill on top like the StuG, it can be penetrated or smtg.
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Lebisey seems to be just a mortar tank killing map
Shermans, fireflies stugs, pzIV i killed it all their with it
even a storch :v
And 2 friendly brengun carriers....fully loaded.......
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Oh I thought that was a Company of Heroes fab.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rpEO3oiuos
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So it is possible to blow up tank using mortar........sound fun, look forward to try it out!!!
;D ;D ;D
By the way, wht's AVRE?
I shot down a Bf109 with Commander Artillery.... Twice.... While BFCO'ing the axis team.....
Just thought I'd share.
Wht do u mean? u shot the bf109 in the sky using mortar???!!!!! unthinkable........
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So it is possible to blow up tank using mortar........sound fun, look forward to try it out!!!
;D ;D ;D
By the way, wht's AVRE?
I shot down a Bf109 with Commander Artillery.... Twice.... While BFCO'ing the axis team.....
Just thought I'd share.
Wht do u mean? u shot the bf109 in the sky using mortar???!!!!! unthinkable........
You haven't played in any WaW battles have you? Strange things happen during 11 hours of the same map ;)
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You haven't played in any WaW battles have you? Strange things happen during 11 hours of the same map ;)
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LOL...........................strange thing do happen at midnight......... ;D ;D ;D
By the way, still playing sp only....................now having a hard time downloading the new fh2.26 patches(I failed the third time, becuz of the slow speed :'( :'( :'()
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Yes you can destroy tanks with mortar in fh2 and they can destroy tanks in real life ( they can destroy tracks, disable turret, start fire on engine and they can even expose tank's own ammunition )
Destroyed m3 medium tank:
(http://www.ressim.net/e/upload/8e884d2a.png) (http://www.ressim.net)
You can even kill matildas with 2 shells ;D
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Yes you can destroy tanks with mortar in fh2 and they can destroy tanks in real life ( they can destroy tracks, disable turret, start fire on engine and they can even expose tank's own ammunition )
Destroyed m3 medium tank:
(http://www.ressim.net/e/upload/8e884d2a.png) (http://www.ressim.net)
You can even kill matildas with 2 shells ;D
lol direct fire.
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I always use mortars for direct fire support. İndirect fire for cowards ;D
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am not sure was it for KT or just T but two shells to hatch should do the magic, others tend to blow up from one shot on top and 25 pounder just rapes everything else than big cats
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I blew up Panzer IIIN on Mareth not to long ago with a mortar shell, it was a perfect top hit
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Was testing a map today and fired a 81mm mortar at the top armor of a static Tiger E (late). Nothing happened.
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Was testing a map today and fired a 81mm mortar at the top armor of a static Tiger E (late). Nothing happened.
I once was able to damage the tiger on Mareth though. I asked the tiger driver if he was damaged by it, and he confirmed it
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Well I also didn't check the Tiger's health. I just assumed nothing happened since no smoke was visible.
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we need to enlarge the explosion of the avre!!!
the current is just as big as a 88 :(
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I believe ha-gos can be killed by mortar shells in one shot. Everything else could take more.
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I believe ha-gos can be killed by mortar shells in one shot. Everything else could take more.
Rocks can kill japanese tanks ::)
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I believe ha-gos can be killed by mortar shells in one shot. Everything else could take more.
Rocks can kill japanese tanks ::)
US soldiers could dent the armor of a HA-go with their rifle butts
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I know, I reiterate that fact alot :P
Thanks forumers for teaching me ww2 facts <3
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Only on medium and light tanks as far as I've seen. Haven't found a Tiger or Panther or whatever to run into my mortar shells. Arty pierces their armor as if they were tin cans.
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Oh jesus, necro thread. And he's got the same pic as me. Time to change :|
And, I can confirm killing tanks with Mortars. I have done so to a panther and a STuG before.
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Makes sense - an 80-90mm mortar shell ain't just gonna bounce off and do nothing to tank, especially when the armour on the top of the turret is not going to be as thick as the front
Will have to try it out in FH2 one day - it's always a blast having a couple of mortar squads, with a pak38 coverring a position in COH and watching allied M10s get blasted to pieces by mortars :) now to re-create that in fh2 would be nice
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Only on medium and light tanks as far as I've seen. Haven't found a Tiger or Panther or whatever to run into my mortar shells. Arty pierces their armor as if they were tin cans.
I already seen a Tiger been blown by mortar shells on ramelle, so it's possible to damage heavy tanks as well.
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I would be really proud to kill the crew of a Marder with a Mortar without blowing up the tank itself :P then rekill the new crew that jumped in the lone Marder and then repeat ;D
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Knocked out a PIV with the mortar on Brest - also taking out the crew of a Marder/half-track is becoming a bit of a speciality of mine with a rifle lol
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You sir are a necromancer. ;)
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I shot Panzer IV with random nade on Lebisey - i was using mortar near church, Panzer IV arrived there and I pulled mortar totally towards me and boom!! Panzer IV just went into my nade! :P Forgot to make screenshot though...