So mes amis?
Nous avons gonna see?Le French Chars? Le french planes?
I like where this is going...........i really really like where this is going...
Imagine if this is merged with FH2 :o
Since what time its your char^^Since i was great with the French chars on counterattack on FH1!!! My top turret was always manned, and we made many german people call out=FRENCH BIAS!
Since what time its your char^^Since i was great with the French chars on counterattack on FH1!!! My top turret was always manned, and we made many german people call out=FRENCH BIAS!
It's not a minimod, it's just a new theater of war for the mod. ;)(http://www.expressnightout.com/content/photos/20090105-beatles-450.jpg)
@Krätzer : Beautifull :)
Is it coded ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le_1939_(mine)Bitte! Can't wait for this, haven't played too many WW2 games with French stuff
Can we has mine? ;D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le_1939_(mine)"It saw very limited service before the fall of France"
Can we has mine? ;D
oh well, We gotta has a AP mine for frenchies right? ;Dhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le_1939_(mine)"It saw very limited service before the fall of France"
Can we has mine? ;D
but this one is a must
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1936_mine
Note that they aren't official in the team so they won't appear in any release, at least from what I know.
^thisNote that they aren't official in the team so they won't appear in any release, at least from what I know.
Then you'd best do something about that, pronto!
If all mappers join together they could work on their maps in the team.
But I think the biggest problem is, that everyone starts making minimods, custom maps etc. instead of joining the team. We all know that minimods or maps will never be in the official release, or will get a good playerbase, so instead of working on your things, rather join FH2. :)
Oh and yes, Seth is a dev for a long time already.
Not yet. But you cat bet (or you don't have to even bet, just read this thread) that the entire FH2 community is screaming bloody murder for them to officially apply for this content to be included in the mod proper, pronto! With these gorgeous maps along with all the French goodies in the changelog and the Panzergrau variants we already have, we could have the Battle of France already!
Only a mad-man will not combine the new fancy French stuff in the changelog and the cool French Hope project. Every sane person will agree that early-war and late war French NEED to be in the mod, everything else will be madness.
*lightstorchandgrabspitchfork*
Only a mad-man will not combine the new fancy French stuff in the changelog and the cool French Hope project. Every sane person will agree that early-war and late war French NEED to be in the mod, everything else will be madness.
*lightstorchandgrabspitchfork*
You Have my 1874 Gras. rifle!And my Lebel Model 1886!
Thanks again for the kind words guys! ;) We are really glad to read your comments!
Also, about the Devs, one knew before we posted the news. Some have their entries in our French forum as well :P And we understood a thread about this project was made in your private section of the forum. So, we are surprise, as much as you, that you didn't know about it Toddel! In fact, since some already knew, we didn't think we had to contact someone else, and who?!
I will contact you soon by PM Toddel.
...And long before the German Goliath, the French produced their own "chenillette téléguidée à charge explosive". Very impressive!
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France is a great nation in RUSE. It is really good on 1 vs 1 and 2 vs 2. A quick army of SAU40's quickly defeats any rush. It is my favorite nation aswel in RUSEQuoteSo true, you should check RUSE once it is released, the french have great early war equipment there as well!Many in our team played it (beta test) and we loved it! It's so rare a game depicting the French army and we are quite strong ingame. The Sau40 and the AM40 are excellent!
frecn army's equipements are great (they overclassed most of the german's ones) but poor tactics and coordination lead France to the fail of 1940. Hopefully it didn't hurt our hope. French Hope. (lol)Problem with france during WW2 was lack of proper radio equipment, not so good tactics, bad AA weaponary, 1 and 2 man tank turrets and the waste of resources spended on the maginot line
frecn army's equipements are great (they overclassed most of the german's ones) but poor tactics and coordination lead France to the fail of 1940. Hopefully it didn't hurt our hope. French Hope. (lol)Problem with france during WW2 was lack of proper radio equipment, not so good tactics, bad AA weaponary, 1 and 2 man tank turrets and the waste of resources spended on the maginot line
frecn army's equipements are great (they overclassed most of the german's ones) but poor tactics and coordination lead France to the fail of 1940. Hopefully it didn't hurt our hope. French Hope. (lol)Problem with france during WW2 was lack of proper radio equipment, not so good tactics, bad AA weaponary, 1 and 2 man tank turrets and the waste of resources spended on the maginot line
agree ! but if maginot line was in all the border, it wouldn't stop germans too. It could only delay them !
Vauban known that ! ... but WWII french generals don't.
And when you see that a captain of a s35 or a B1bis had to control 47mm gun, mg gun, give orders, aim shoot and reload (etc etc..) yeah there is a problem.
frecn army's equipements are great (they overclassed most of the german's ones) but poor tactics and coordination lead France to the fail of 1940. Hopefully it didn't hurt our hope. French Hope. (lol)Problem with france during WW2 was lack of proper radio equipment, not so good tactics, bad AA weaponary, 1 and 2 man tank turrets and the waste of resources spended on the maginot line
agree ! but if maginot line was in all the border, it wouldn't stop germans too. It could only delay them !
Vauban known that ! ... but WWII french generals don't.
And when you see that a captain of a s35 or a B1bis had to control 47mm gun, mg gun, give orders, aim shoot and reload (etc etc..) yeah there is a problem.
What you don't see in FH2 are all the little beavers doing that for you :)frecn army's equipements are great (they overclassed most of the german's ones) but poor tactics and coordination lead France to the fail of 1940. Hopefully it didn't hurt our hope. French Hope. (lol)Problem with france during WW2 was lack of proper radio equipment, not so good tactics, bad AA weaponary, 1 and 2 man tank turrets and the waste of resources spended on the maginot line
agree ! but if maginot line was in all the border, it wouldn't stop germans too. It could only delay them !
Vauban known that ! ... but WWII french generals don't.
And when you see that a captain of a s35 or a B1bis had to control 47mm gun, mg gun, give orders, aim shoot and reload (etc etc..) yeah there is a problem.
I don't see any problems there, we do that all the time in FH2. (http://chopard.fest4.free.fr/emoticons/army/armata/armata_PDT_28.gif)
What you don't see in FH2 are all the little angry beavers doing that for you :)frecn army's equipements are great (they overclassed most of the german's ones) but poor tactics and coordination lead France to the fail of 1940. Hopefully it didn't hurt our hope. French Hope. (lol)Problem with france during WW2 was lack of proper radio equipment, not so good tactics, bad AA weaponary, 1 and 2 man tank turrets and the waste of resources spended on the maginot line
agree ! but if maginot line was in all the border, it wouldn't stop germans too. It could only delay them !
Vauban known that ! ... but WWII french generals don't.
And when you see that a captain of a s35 or a B1bis had to control 47mm gun, mg gun, give orders, aim shoot and reload (etc etc..) yeah there is a problem.
I don't see any problems there, we do that all the time in FH2. (http://chopard.fest4.free.fr/emoticons/army/armata/armata_PDT_28.gif)
frecn army's equipements are great (they overclassed most of the german's ones) but poor tactics and coordination lead France to the fail of 1940. Hopefully it didn't hurt our hope. French Hope. (lol)Problem with france during WW2 was lack of proper radio equipment, not so good tactics, bad AA weaponary, 1 and 2 man tank turrets and the waste of resources spended on the maginot line
The money spended on the maginot line, would have resulted in double the amount of french tanks, planes, artillery and the development of modern Light, medium and heavy Anti-aircraft guns (the 13.2MM and 25MM hotchkiss guns where Very effective, but not many where built)frecn army's equipements are great (they overclassed most of the german's ones) but poor tactics and coordination lead France to the fail of 1940. Hopefully it didn't hurt our hope. French Hope. (lol)Problem with france during WW2 was lack of proper radio equipment, not so good tactics, bad AA weaponary, 1 and 2 man tank turrets and the waste of resources spended on the maginot line
Not exactly. Our AA was good but not in large numbers and all the 75mm + AA guns were concentrated in towns to protect from bombing (ie were they were never used). People were remembering Zeppelin bombings of WWI.
The other problem is also that the country (and especially the industry) wasn't really prepared for a massive production of military stuff and when it started to be the case ... everything was over. ;)
Theta, the problem wasn't really money but production itself.Still. The avaiable funding could have helped that.
You have to understand that truely military plants were few and couldn't sustain a very high rate of production. Beside these there were many little plants, each one making a part of the final product. And there were many new processes to implement because most of those factories were initially civil plants (for exemple making cars, bicycles or cans) that were converted for military production. This is not something you do in a few weeks, sometimes production was screwed for many months before there were actually results, slow results.
That's how happened weird situations such as shortages of guns, tanks without turrets or (the worst of all) thousands of brand new aircrafts suck on the ground because they lacked radios or weren't certified for flight.
BTW, you know, the FCM36 was really modern for its time but its fighting efficiency wasn't much higher than a R35. It was still a light tank with a short barrel 37mm gun. ;)
The whole war resources went to the White flag factory that was burned to the ground and rendered the French military machine useless ;DYep. They led to the maginot line ;D
Bad tactics and stuck minds . That's what lead to defeat.
Hmm a white flag factory? How effective are white flags against German tanks?
Hmm a white flag factory? How effective are white flags against German tanks?
They worked fine when we Brits used them at Dunkirk, but when the French used them it was cheese-eating surrender, apparently.
we have currently no custom statics, as far i know.. though my map wont contain any, there might be on other maps. :)(http://www.filmdope.com/Gallery/ActorsC/2760-5456.gif)
It couldn't work, or it would be pretty difficult! The Maginot Line isn't only a bunch of bunkers. It's an huge fortification system with tunnels, factories (for fresh air, food, ammunitions and water), different level of "fighting bunkers" (mortars, turrets, 75mm, MG, etc), with railways to bring soldiers and ammunitions in and out, with elevators to go to the fighting bunkers, etc. Think of it as an huge cruiser buried in the ground.Wow the French wasted a lot of money on that damn line :/
And even if we could do that, which kind of map could we make? The Italian tried to attack the Alps Maginot Line, and failed: they were repulsed kilometers away before even reaching the first bunker! Same with the German: the could only attack the main entrance of the tunnels and some bunkers. And they attacked them with Stuka (failed) and with 88mm (successful) but couldn't get any further because of the internal defences.
Not all Maginot Line bunkers look like that. Those are the best ones:
(http://www.yowusa.com/scitech/2001/scitech-2001-05a/maginot.jpg)
Wow the French wasted a lot of money on that damn line :/
I've read that the Maginot Line is thoroughly misunderstood - its purpose was in fact to FORCE the Germans to go round it. The French knew they'd come through Belgium (hint: they did it in 1914) and so decided to force them to do it again and face them there, taking advantage (as they thought) of the inability of armour to move through the Ardennes, nullifying Hitler's vaunted Blitzkrieg.
Of course, this didn't work out because
a) you can drive tanks through forests
b) the French government and society as a whole had been so anti-war in the 1930s that the army was in no fit state to launch a decisive confrontation on the emerging German Army in Belgium or Northern France
So it's key to remember that the only French 'mistake' was the one about Blitzkrieg not working through the Ardennes. They never expected a suicidal charge against their Maginot flank - it was a massive deterrent to funnel the Germans into what the French thought was a battle they could win.
I've read that the Maginot Line is thoroughly misunderstood - its purpose was in fact to FORCE the Germans to go round it. The French knew they'd come through Belgium (hint: they did it in 1914) and so decided to force them to do it again and face them there, taking advantage (as they thought) of the inability of armour to move through the Ardennes, nullifying Hitler's vaunted Blitzkrieg.
Of course, this didn't work out because
a) you can drive tanks through forests
b) the French government and society as a whole had been so anti-war in the 1930s that the army was in no fit state to launch a decisive confrontation on the emerging German Army in Belgium or Northern France
So it's key to remember that the only French 'mistake' was the one about Blitzkrieg not working through the Ardennes. They never expected a suicidal charge against their Maginot flank - it was a massive deterrent to funnel the Germans into what the French thought was a battle they could win.
The available equipment was also of diverse origin. There were 63 Bren Carriers, several trucks and two howitzers from the British, but most of the artillery pieces were French and came from the Levant: 54 75mm cannons (30 were used in an antitank role), 14 47 mm, 18 25 mm and 86 British-supplied Boys anti-tank rifles and 18 anti-aircraft Bofors 40 mm. Most of the infantry equipment was French, with 44 .81 or .90 mortars, 76 Hotchkiss machine guns, 96 anti-aircraft and 270 infantry FM 24/29 light machine guns.
That still leaves my most pressing desire unanswered: what infantry smallarms did they have (rifles, smgs, pistols etc.)
Many weapon come from English arsenal :
Bren Carrier / Antitank Rifles / 40m Bofors
From french arsenal :
76 mitrailleuses Hotchkiss / fusil-mitrailleurs 24/29 , many artillery take on Syrian / Lebanon arsenal as the canons de 75m.
So very different kind of weapons, as there is many kind of Unit (French Legion with 300 Spanish Republican, troops from French Polynesia etc...).
@THeTA0123 : Thank you for your kind words mate! Well, as you may have seen in the 2.26 changelog, many French stuff has been made:Quote* Grenade Defensive modele 37 (sethsoldier)
* Grenade Offensive modele 37 (sethsoldier)
* Pistolet Automatique modele 1935 A (sethsoldier)
* Berthier modèle 1916 (sethsoldier)
* Berthier modèle 1916 Bayonet (sethsoldier)
* Berthier modèle 1916 Tromblon (sethsoldier)
* Berthier modèle 1916 Apx21 (sethsoldier)
* Somua S35 (sethsoldier)
* F1 Grenade (sethsoldier)
* French Soldier (sethsoldier)
* SA34 25mm (sethsoldier)
* H39 SA18 model and skin (sethsoldier)
* B1 Bis (sethsoldier)
* Citroen 11 cv Model and Textures by HERC (toddel)
* French Army Kits (sethsoldier)
That still leaves my most pressing desire unanswered: what infantry smallarms did they have (rifles, smgs, pistols etc.)
Here you go.
http://forums.filefront.com/fh2-suggestions/372936-french-weapons-second-world-war-comprehensive-articles.html
Yeah italians tried to invade France through the Alps in the middle of may 1940.
EPIC FAIL.
Wow the French wasted a lot of money on that damn line :/
You know, with our knowledge of history it may seem a waste, but this line actually did its job: preventing any surprise attack like in 1870 and 1914, so that the French army had enough time to mobilize. ;)
Things didn't happen as expected but at least, we weren't caught with pants completely off. ;D
Exactly, the Maginot Line worked perfectly at not letting the enemy through. Too bad the sneaky Germans knew how to drive through an impenetrable forest though...
Had the French continued the Maginot Line to the coast WWII would've looked like WWI, just with less dashing aeroplanes. But for some reason the Belgians and Dutch didn't like the idea of their lands being left behind. Nor did they allow building the line through their lands, so not to provoke the Germans.
frecn army's equipements are great (they overclassed most of the german's ones) but poor tactics and coordination lead France to the fail of 1940. Hopefully it didn't hurt our hope. French Hope. (lol)Problem with france during WW2 was lack of proper radio equipment, not so good tactics, bad AA weaponary, 1 and 2 man tank turrets and the waste of resources spended on the maginot line
You have to understand that truely military plants were few and couldn't sustain a very high rate of production. Beside these there were many little plants, each one making a part of the final product. And there were many new processes to implement because most of those factories were initially civil plants (for exemple making cars, bicycles or cans) that were converted for military production. This is not something you do in a few weeks, sometimes production was screwed for many months before there were actually results, slow results.
That's how happened weird situations such as shortages of guns, tanks without turrets or (the worst of all) thousands of brand new aircrafts stuck on the ground because they lacked radios or weren't certified for flight.
well they may looking for historical accurency...so =>no fight with maginot line...at least, a map with germans encircling french at maginot line. It's hard to deal with..
Like chinese people ?
Well, yes. But it wasn't really used by the units on the field. On the other hand it was quite used by the "Corps Francs" (or "Francs Tireurs" during the phoney war). Not high priority... But it's a very cool rifle ^^
PS: what means GRM?
So, to make it short, what would be best for the French faction are those rifles, FMs and PMs (if we get all of that of course xD ):
-recon 1 (voltigeur): Mousqueton Berthier (carabine) (http://www.armetec.fr/media/mousqueton-m16-01-11366-1.jpg) / -recon 2 (franc tireur): RSC 1918 (http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/1729/rscmle1917mle19185lj.jpg) or PM Mas 38 (http://www.maquetland.com/v2/images_articles/PM%20MAS%2038-WEB.JPG)
-assault (grenadier): Lebel 1886 M93 (http://i31.servimg.com/u/f31/11/07/51/60/310.jpg) + Tromblon (http://www.atf40.fr/ATF40/divers/armement/tromblon%20VB.jpg)
-riflemen (fusilier): Berthier 1916 (http://historywarsweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/image/Berthier2.jpg)
-machinegunner (tireur FM): FM 24/29 (http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20francaise/artisans%20c%20d/chatellerault%20manuf%20fm%2024%2029-05.JPG)
-engineer (génie): Berthier 1916 (http://historywarsweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/image/Berthier2.jpg)
-anti-tank (anti-char): Berthier 1916 (http://historywarsweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/image/Berthier2.jpg)
-NCO (sous-officier): Berthier 1916 (http://historywarsweapons.com/wp-content/uploads/image/Berthier2.jpg) or PM Mas 38 (http://www.maquetland.com/v2/images_articles/PM%20MAS%2038-WEB.JPG)
Kits:
-ammo carriers (pourvoyeur): Mousqueton Berthier (carabine) (http://www.armetec.fr/media/mousqueton-m16-01-11366-1.jpg)
-sniper (tireur d'élite): Lebel 1886 M93 Apx21 (http://armesfrancaises.free.fr/Lunette%20mle%2021%20pour%20Lebel-WEB.jpg)
-heavy machinegunner (mitrailleur): Hotchkiss mle 1916 (http://armesfrancaises.free.fr/Mitr%20Hotchkiss%20mle%2014-VD%20sur%20tr%E9pied-WEB.JPG)
Haha, nice picture. Do you know where it was taken? Nice copies as well, I know many French 1940 copy stuff is beeing made in Belgium and Holland.
I hope as well to see the French player model to be like this! But I don't know if we can make a similar "capote" (overcoat) with BF2 engine?!
By the way, carbine is a bad translation for "mousqueton". Yes, it's a carbine, but if we translate in French, there will be a mistake, as we make the difference between the carbine (like the M1 carbine) and the Mousqueton (shortened rifle).
For the anti-tank class, we did have them in 1940. They were equiped with "pétard" (high explosives) and few AT grenades from WW1. We have similar kits in FH2. He should get the AT mines as well, but the engineer need something xD.
Of course, was just doing the rifle list for the common units. With the Mas 36, it's more simple. Now you got me interested for Stonne. I know there was some DI (Inf. Div.) and DCr (Armoured Div.), but didn't know they were equiped with Mas 36. I believe the DCr was equiped with Mousqueton (because it's a cavalry div.). Do you have more informations about that plz ?
Sorry for that! Just said it because you were reenacting and most of the time they are using copies (luckily). Very cool equipment you got there. The golf trousers are rare and expensive, most of the time (like most of the French equipment) it's post-war (1945-1950s). Many capotes and other French clothes have been produced in 1944-1945 and are 90% similar to 1939-1940 productions. Because they were using unissued surplus and they were producing them in the same factories with the same techniques than before the war. The main difference is the color and quality who sucks. The Belgian and Dutch are known to collect a lot the French 1940 equipment! (don't know why!)
Quote-In my pants: a caleçonAnd what do you got in your caleçon ? ::)
In that time infantry AT weapons were few and not that efficient on both sides. It will be an occasion to learn a new way to play. ;)
Berthier was the most common weapon in the french army in 1940 ??? oO
damned..i think it was lebel ^^' ...
Yeah PR style,One side gets PZ3 and the other Rox to throw at them!
1940 german soldier skins...
brownish/greenish ones are the original skin
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Gewehr
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/Gewehr_Front_new-1.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/Gewehr_Front_44.jpg)
Unter Off
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/UnterOff_Front_new-1.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/UnterOff_Front_44.jpg)
Spaher
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/Spaher_new.jpg)
Pioner
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/Pioner_Front_new.jpg)
on models how come you don't have all the bages on them like the SS runes on them? "if they they had them"?
also there should do a model for the Schutzstaffel Waffen SS
1940 german soldier skins...
brownish/greenish ones are the original skin
..
it is ok to be historical accurate, but you have to think of balance. If you dont give the french an anti-tank class, imagine the frakking horror!but they have better tanks and anti-tank guns.. besides there are always anti-tank mines
Does french will have FM 24/29 ?
Germans can use the Afrika kit setup (perhaps no smg for officer or something because the French have not many and the mP40 was not so common that early)You´re sure about the MP40 part?
The MAS 38 was the Waldo of French weaponry. Every time I find one in a photograph (which is not very often) I go "Woah! I've found a MAS 38!"
Germans can use the Afrika kit setup (perhaps no smg for officer or something because the French have not many and the mP40 was not so common that early)You´re sure about the MP40 part?
I read that each squad leader of infantry units had a SMG, mainly a MP40 or MP38 and added some extra firepower on medium ranges.
Did the MP40 exist in time for the 1940 Western Europe campaign? When were the design changes from the MP38 implemented?The MP40 was the simplification of the MP38 wich was a simplification of the MP36. The numbers is the year of introduction of the model i think. And since the MP40 model did not changed after 1940 it remained this way
*next theater after normandy: Operation fall Gelb*
The Public demands an update! 8)AAROOO!
If these maps get rejected by the FH2 team, I will burn down the dev's house who rejected it. These maps are SUPERB. Combined with awesome French assets, makes it even MORE superb.
hi alland i just started working
Your will hear in September ...
in France right now is the summer holidays.
drinks, BBQ, outings, beach, cocktail, BBQ, outings, beach ... :P
life is too cruel ;D
So... will we see the Free French in this work? That would be pretty much the coolest thing ever.
I hope this mod will be totally French-Biased when it comes to the Char BCRUSH petit petit panzys under Grande char his tracks!
Uhhh ok, firstly...learn to understand a joke. I was just complimenting on how these maps would be an excellent addition to the main mod, and would greatly reduce the amount of maps the devs would need to add if they ever considered adding in the French Forces. I am not suggesting every map being developed by the community should be added, but THESE maps, as they are of excellent quality, and would improve the mod's general ratings.If these maps get rejected by the FH2 team, I will burn down the dev's house who rejected it. These maps are SUPERB. Combined with awesome French assets, makes it even MORE superb.
Uhhh ok, firstly...chill out. We don't take kindly to threats. Secondly, despite what MANY people think, there is much more to level design than just making it look decent. So every time a new map comes up, please stop suggesting that it instantly be added into patch X.XX.
Is this how it ends?
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Hello all ! :)(http://www.21stcenturyabe.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/lincoln_awesome.jpg)
We will soon have to give you fresh news about FRENCH HOPE... a little patience...
just this image to show you that FRENCH HOPE is not dead, far from it! ;)
(http://whilemail.free.fr/sedan/sedan%20online.jpg)
see you soon
:)
Let's add 1 and 1 together and... ;D
Cool!
@THeTA0123 : Thank you for your kind words mate! Well, as you may have seen in the 2.26 changelog, many French stuff has been made:Quote* Grenade Defensive modele 37 (sethsoldier)
* Grenade Offensive modele 37 (sethsoldier)
* Pistolet Automatique modele 1935 A (sethsoldier)
* Berthier modèle 1916 (sethsoldier)
* Berthier modèle 1916 Bayonet (sethsoldier)
* Berthier modèle 1916 Tromblon (sethsoldier)
* Berthier modèle 1916 Apx21 (sethsoldier)
* Somua S35 (sethsoldier)
* F1 Grenade (sethsoldier)
* French Soldier (sethsoldier)
* SA34 25mm (sethsoldier)
* H39 SA18 model and skin (sethsoldier)
* B1 Bis (sethsoldier)
* Citroen 11 cv Model and Textures by HERC (toddel)
* French Army Kits (sethsoldier)
@THeTA0123 : Thank you for your kind words mate! Well, as you may have seen in the 2.26 changelog, many French stuff has been made:Quote* Grenade Defensive modele 37 (sethsoldier)
* Grenade Offensive modele 37 (sethsoldier)
* Pistolet Automatique modele 1935 A (sethsoldier)
* Berthier modèle 1916 (sethsoldier)
* Berthier modèle 1916 Bayonet (sethsoldier)
* Berthier modèle 1916 Tromblon (sethsoldier)
* Berthier modèle 1916 Apx21 (sethsoldier)
* Somua S35 (sethsoldier)
* F1 Grenade (sethsoldier)
* French Soldier (sethsoldier)
* SA34 25mm (sethsoldier)
* H39 SA18 model and skin (sethsoldier)
* B1 Bis (sethsoldier)
* Citroen 11 cv Model and Textures by HERC (toddel)
* French Army Kits (sethsoldier)
All those at the changelog??Where the hell are the models???
@THeTA0123 : Thank you for your kind words mate! Well, as you may have seen in the 2.26 changelog, many French stuff has been made:Quote* Grenade Defensive modele 37 (sethsoldier)
* Grenade Offensive modele 37 (sethsoldier)
* Pistolet Automatique modele 1935 A (sethsoldier)
* Berthier modèle 1916 (sethsoldier)
* Berthier modèle 1916 Bayonet (sethsoldier)
* Berthier modèle 1916 Tromblon (sethsoldier)
* Berthier modèle 1916 Apx21 (sethsoldier)
* Somua S35 (sethsoldier)
* F1 Grenade (sethsoldier)
* French Soldier (sethsoldier)
* SA34 25mm (sethsoldier)
* H39 SA18 model and skin (sethsoldier)
* B1 Bis (sethsoldier)
* Citroen 11 cv Model and Textures by HERC (toddel)
* French Army Kits (sethsoldier)
All those at the changelog??Where the hell are the models???
The models of weapons for the mod showed above looks wonderfull. can whe see some screenshots? Because I can't find the French hope site any more on the internet, is this mod starting to work in secret, or is there a othert terible solution...... :-[
Chouette, pour quand ?Un m'ment donné :)
Keep up the good work French mates ;)
(Though I sincerely hope I'll be able to release the French Forces in Project Reality first ;D)
It seems the only thing your're missing atm is a complete set of maps. If you need any export help, 162eRI knows where to find me ;)
Very nice work guys. At least here the maps... are coming :P
So many question ;Dmais je ne peux attendre!!!
Wait and see :P
Fait chier s'est long à attendre !! Let's hope other good news will be soon for this !J'peux au moins te dire qu'ils font du bon boulot :)
See there is a problem with us Greeks...google translate
We cant speak French.
Well...Me in particular cant.
Hi guys ! Since i've got a new pc, i can now help you as modeler/mapper. just tell me what to do, what kind of tools to use, ...
@the warrior
why dont you all team up, then the chance of people play the mod raises
It would be even much better, if it would be integrated into normal FH2 which would attract more attention and more players to play ;)
@the warrior
why dont you all team up, then the chance of people play the mod raises
It would be even much better, if it would be integrated into normal FH2 which would attract more attention and more players to play ;)
Yeah right... a mod about WW1 and other about French in WW2... 2 different thing... so not a good idea.
Very unlikely.
@the warrior
why dont you all team up, then the chance of people play the mod raises
It would be even much better, if it would be integrated into normal FH2 which would attract more attention and more players to play ;)
Yeah right... a mod about WW1 and other about French in WW2... 2 different thing... so not a good idea.
unless we exchange models like customized buildings or equipment used in both eras that a simple reskin would make appropriate. That sound okay?
But it sucks, if I want to play one of the 3 mods I need to launch each one and see if there are players online, which will be unlikely, as there are around 100 people playing online.
It would be much easier, if FH2, French Hope and No Mans Land would be in one Mod.
Also if it are 2 different scenarios, it doesn't matter. Then you 191* maps and 194* maps.
As I stated, there won't be many players online, especially because you need to extra download everything and you aren't that popular as FH. I don't want demotivate you, but I want you to suggest something.
French Hope for instance could create a Moddb-Page to increase the number of people knowing it.
The only important thing is, that the quality of content is as high as FH2's. I wouldn't like to have XWWII pacific in FH2, I would wait some years for the real FH2 pacific, because their quality isn't hiqh standard, also if so intended...
Well, helmets for example. From wat I've seen, the M-15 Adrienne and the 1926 models don't look all that different with the exception of the Colour and the badge.
Can you french hope lads atleast give us a list of infantry weapons for French hope?I think that FH2 devs are working on the weapons and vehicles, while the French Hope guys work on maps.
SI VOUS PLAIT???
You can also see that all of these things are done by Seth Soldier, a Frenchman himself who just makes stuff in his spare time and adds it to the library :P I could only dream of your theory being true.Can you french hope lads atleast give us a list of infantry weapons for French hope?I think that FH2 devs are working on the weapons and vehicles, while the French Hope guys work on maps.
SI VOUS PLAIT???
If you look at the latest FH changelog, you will see lots of french stuff, from grenades to rifles, pistols and light machineguns passing by tanks and even a "player model".
Hi mates !! don't panic, a news will be published quickly =PAllow me=
;D Nope, you need to find the last one :PCan't see the screenshot, but googling hints that "Thunderbolt's Festung" could refer to Saint-Malo, being one of the "Festungs" and liberated by the 83rd ID "Thunderbolt".
But well, because you find the first three ones, you can get an other screen of the unknown map:
(http://img214.imagevenue.com/loc880/th_87155_screen334_122_880lo.jpg) (http://img214.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=87155_screen334_122_880lo.jpg)
Note: WIP screen
Let see if others can find?
NON I THINK not!
*sapps the greeks
HAHAHAHAHANON I THINK not!
*sapps the greeks
SPY SAPPIN MAH GREEK BIAS
I'd love to see that ;D
I WOULD say allies bias 1000 times and kill 500 churchills to see the render of the berthier carbine
Its a deal?I'd love to see that ;D
I WOULD say allies bias 1000 times and kill 500 churchills to see the render of the berthier carbine
Question=When can we see some weapon renders?When an appropriate FH2 news update arrives ;)
The 11th REI, the first of these units to be formed, was also the first under fire. On 11th June 1940, in the Verdun
sector, it distinguished itself during an heroic defense against a German division. It was almost completely wiped
out. The survivors fought until the armistice, when forced at last to lay down their arms, they were disbanded and
the regimental flag was burned. Of 700 Legionnaires POWs, nearly 500 escaped from Verdun. They would
reappear later in North Africa, in the backbone of the new French army until the victory.
On 31 August, the dissidents (who had provisionally awarded themselves the title of 14 Half Brigade, but who
soon reverted to 13th DBLE) embarked once more in England. Their destination was Africa. After a check before
Dakar, which remained loyal to marechal Pétain, the Legionnaires sailed right around the south of Africa. Their first
operation was against the Italians in Eritrea where, on 8th April 1941, they took the port of Massawa from a garrison
of 1,400 soldiers. But it was in the Western Desert that the real glory awaited the Legionnaires of the 13th DBLE.
Chasseurs alpins (alpine infantry)
In June 1940, the tanks loaded
onto special railroad cars, were blocked on the wagons south of Neufchâteau since the rail-road and an other train
in front of the convoy had been destroyed by the Luftwaffe. The tanks could not be unloaded in this area and all of
them were scuttled on 15th June 1940 by explosive charges except the tank n°99 for which the charge failed to
explode. The tank n°99 was therefore captured intact by the Germans and brought back to Berlin. It was tested on
a range near Cossen. The electrotransmission of the FCM-2C interested Ferdinand Porsche for his later heavy
tanks. In 1942, it was seen in France at the Renault plant being overhauled. Brought back to Germany, the tank
was eventually captured by the USSR and was last seen in 1948 in East Germany according to several sources.
From the other wreck, several intact turrets were used on the Atlantic wall.You can find numerous German
propaganda photos claiming that these tanks have been destroyed by German tanks, the wrecks where moved all
around to take "victorious" photos, sometimes tanks had fired at point blank against them to prove that they had
been destroyed etc. but they were simply abandoned and scuttled and never saw action.
Can somebody relay this to the French hope people just incase? i think it might come in handyIt's done ;)
Thanks i hope it will helpCan somebody relay this to the French hope people just incase? i think it might come in handyIt's done ;)
A Mappack will be internally tested after the release of the 2.4 and set to fh2 standartHow many maps will be in the mappack to be tested?
Not sure for now. But probably more than one :PA Mappack will be internally tested after the release of the 2.4 and set to fh2 standartHow many maps will be in the mappack to be tested?
8)
Not sure for now. But probably more than one :P
Note : At the end of 1939 Brandt developed also a 50mm HEAT rifle grenade. It had a range of about 100m and an
armor penetration of 40mm. It entered in production during May 1940 and was successfully tested at the Satory
test range on 10th June 1940 but they could not be issued to the combat units before the armistice. The documents
related to these works were sent to the USA in June 1940 and were used as basis to develop the M9 AT rifle
grenade and the HEAT rocket of the Bazookas.
(http://uppix.net/d/e/2/4ffa9f0dabe11633f7222443d9159.jpg)
Hi guys,
The bloody French froggies are proud to show you what we have been working for some months now. This French Hope project, as you can guess by the pictures and name, will depict battles of the French army, the Free French Forces and the Vichy French Forces. Be aware, those are just maps and not a faction!(http://uppix.net/4/3/a/ea06a1f09585d486f963ca80250d8.jpg)
Today, we are growing in strengh and we felt like we had enough content to show you. With the help of some fine mappers such as Nikita, Snoox, Le Griffu, we started several maps all based on the French fights. We are trying, as much as possible, to make those maps spicy and different from what you are used to play.(http://uppix.net/8/4/a/c3e9dd7b4ac24342ab3f69ad56f21.jpg)
We are working with FH2 stuff for now and our first goal is the map of Bir Hakeim's map. Scoub is working on the infamous Bir Hakeim "canon de 75" and others on the French helmet and "képi".(http://uppix.net/b/9/9/7ad1864b9e8cb6e0fa0ff292b1310.jpg)
You will be able to fight in Northern France, in 1940, and try to stop the mighty Germans Panzer waves at Sedan and Stonne. You will follow the French and British Expeditionary Forces retreat at Dunkirk and save as many soldiers as you can. You can choose to fight with the Free French Forces at Bir Hakeim in Africa and save the British armies from a complete encirclement. You can also join the Vichy French Forces and defend Libanon against the Australian invaders... Or you can try to defeat us, but can you ?!(http://uppix.net/0/1/1/820cfc5d424802d19bd5f334025fc.jpg)
Right now, you are looking at Sedan and Stonne's ingame screens. The battle of Sedan, or should we said the breakthrough at Sedan was a major defeat for the French army. At Sedan, the Meuse Line consisted of a strong defensive belt, overlooking the Meuse valley and strengthened by 103 pillboxes. The French command expected the Germans attack on such defences only when a large infantry and artillery force would have been built up. But on May 13 and 14, the Panzer Divisions of General Guderian's 19th Panzer Corps broke through French defenses around the city. It came as a complete surprise. The German forces pressed forward as rapidly as possible to prevent the French armed forces from reforming a new defensive line.(http://uppix.net/b/5/c/f478021313a10cd2a364ab369d2fb.jpg)
The second map depicts is Stonne. In the night of May 13-14, the French urged various forces south of Sedan to counter-attack the German breakthrough, but it was already too late. Very early on May 15, the "Grossdeutschland" Infantry Regiment supported by tanks of the 10 Panzer Division assaulted the French city of Stonne, to consolidate Guderian's breakthrough at Sedan. They didn't expect to encounter the French 3rd Armored Division and 3rd Motorized Infantry Division arrived late on May 14, too late to counter-attack. The battle of Stonne has been called by the Germans the "Verdun of 1940" and was the first major tanks battle of world war two. The town switched side 17 times in 3 days!(http://uppix.net/c/b/e/46d487f4d803cf5ef736cddb7bca6.jpg)
But to finish this project, we need the community's help. We are recruiting ! We need mostly mappers and modelers for statics. All talents are welcome.
Stay tuned for more news,
Friendly yours, the French Hope project(http://edmondprochain.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/oui-nide-iou.jpg)
(We need you)
Vichy French vs Australians in Lebanon?
you had to quote all that just to say this?
How the Vichy French against the Americans in North Africa?
alakazou, i wanted to do that !!!! too late :( :(Mouahahaha I'm so evil :P
;D everyone is welcomed to help us to develop french hope in a efficient way.
This is mostly in French and most of the world doesnt speak French.
Including me.......
:(
It's a short post, but be sure that we're ready to show you on the 14th of July Sedan and Dynamo for a beta test with...YOU !!! Let's share the maps together! (we will present only sedan and dynamo, not weapons, soldiers and tanks)There will be a LOT of placeholders! :P
We all want to drive it =P but we will test JUST the 2 maps on 14th !
We all want to drive it =P but we will test JUST the 2 maps on 14th !
awe sad face so i dont get to drive teh cahr b1 or use a french rifles? =( jumping on a map i will!
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no, weapons, tanks, etc are made by the devs, so they will be added later, if the devs want our maps.
oh my, looks like i will have to install BF2 again!Same here
Hello guys! Don't want to break any parties but seeing that Fh2.4 is going to be released on the 15th July I suggest that you postpone the Beta Test of your great looking mod so that it gets the deserved attention + good player base. (Just my two cents here guys) Goodluck on the test launch!Totally agreed! Are any French Hope devs going to comment on this?
no download links and no info, it's sad... :-\yes so sad was look up to play this all week :'(
We already have a Greek Manlicher so i have hope for Greek Hope....You forget that we also have italians
We already have a Greek Manlicher so i have hope for Greek Hope....
Were approaching 1 1/2 years since this was announced and they are still working on 2 maps.
At this point, i just "Hope" this sees the light of day.
:-*
Were approaching 1 1/2 years since this was announced and they are still working on 2 maps.
At this point, i just "Hope" this sees the light of day.
:-*
Were approaching 1 1/2 years since this was announced and they are still working on 2 maps.
At this point, i just "Hope" this sees the light of day.
:-*
They have worked on more than one map.
Hi mates.
The status is that devs are working on it (i can't say more, they will make a news at the right time). On our side we're making the most maps possible (2 nearly finished and 4 in work) to find out the best maps for the french army in FH2.
We're not dead. Don't worry about that. French Hope is not dead.
In a few days the devs and us will start to work together.
I am learnig basics of mapping now, is this enough? :P
9 maps might be overdoing it, dont you think?
9 maps might be overdoing it, dont you think?Is 9 maps spread over 2 fronts too much? No, if they are equal in quality to current FH2 maps (the gameplay is thoroughly tested, there is "art direction" to give each map an unique "look and feel", the environments feel "lived in" instead of wargame terrain, and the attention to detail is higher than in most fanmaps). Especially since Bir Hakeim still did not make a spectacular comeback in 2.4 Gazala. :P
What the hell the quantity, we're just looking for the quality ;)
Cooperation has startedVery good!
Looks very nice! I find the yellow in the center a bit out of place though. Compared to the rest of the (very nice) minimap, it looks so "handpainted terrain"-ish :p.Looks like it is, with out-bound borders of course.
How big is this map? 2x2km?
First, Germans started at north east, historically accurate.He was just joking mon ami ;D
Second, Maus...in 1940...
And i dislike the idea to forget 100 000 french deads in 1940.
btw, this map is really nice to play with an amazing and unique gameplay
First, Germans started at north east, historically accurate.He was just joking mon ami ;D
Second, Maus...in 1940...
And i dislike the idea to forget 100 000 french deads in 1940.
btw, this map is really nice to play with an amazing and unique gameplay
If we can't have Maus, could we have Neubaufahrzeugthen? ;D The yellow I guess is one of the field types that turns like a crayon painting when zoomed out far enough. If memory serves me right (which it rarely does), other Normandy maps have the same "feature". But looks wickedly good all the same. 8)
If we can't have Maus, could we have Neubaufahrzeug then? ;D The yellow I guess is one of the field types that turns like a crayon painting when zoomed out far enough. If memory serves me right (which it rarely does), other Normandy maps have the same "feature". But looks wickedly good all the same. 8)
As for throwing fuel to the fire, let's go and see what Wikipedia has to say about Battle of Sedan:
"On 12 May, Sedan was captured without resistance."
"There was a rumour that German tanks were approaching the town of Bulson. The false reports spread and the French 55th Infantry Division dissolved into a mass of personnel who deserted their positions. By the 14 May the division had ceased to exist."
trolololololololololololo
sorry for derailing this.If we can't have Maus, could we have Neubaufahrzeug then? ;D The yellow I guess is one of the field types that turns like a crayon painting when zoomed out far enough. If memory serves me right (which it rarely does), other Normandy maps have the same "feature". But looks wickedly good all the same. 8)
As for throwing fuel to the fire, let's go and see what Wikipedia has to say about Battle of Sedan:
"On 12 May, Sedan was captured without resistance."
"There was a rumour that German tanks were approaching the town of Bulson. The false reports spread and the French 55th Infantry Division dissolved into a mass of personnel who deserted their positions. By the 14 May the division had ceased to exist."
trolololololololololololo
False. btw we should stop the spam.
We're sad to say that devs are not really interested in our maps/projects of maps.
They seem to be to "large", but a betatest (with stonne, sedan, dynamo) with 64 players was not done and is not in the way to be.
So Stonne, Sedan, Dynamo, Bir Hakeim, The Phoney War, Pont de l'Arche, Abbeville pocket...are going to the trash.
The town in sedan is not 3 times brest.
I have these maps and ran around on them and all I thought was "lol two whole teams could run past each pther here without ever seeing each other."
I have these maps and ran around on them and all I thought was "lol two whole teams could run past each pther here without ever seeing each other."
I somehow believe things like that happened on more than a few occasions IRL... It would make scouting more important IMO, and squad leaders could plan their moves and maneuvers instead of always having to choose between the same 3 paths...
I have these maps and ran around on them and all I thought was "lol two whole teams could run past each pther here without ever seeing each other."
im confused. Did the devs reject everything? IF they did then whats going to happen? I hope all the models dont go to waste.. im loking foward to driving a charB1! You probably can bring them to WAW to try them out. we are always looking for maps!
La Varde and Sedan need new buildings (Sedan much more) but the design is cool on both.It is too big because there are no terrain forms forcing people to choose one route or another. There are no natural bottlenecks no place to form a front line with so few players. Too much space for flanking makes it too hard to defend. Push system is not enough - would be nic to see such big map or even bigger (I hope to see such on eastern front) but it needs to be better designed. This kind of map with such amount of vehicles would be awesome but with about 200-300 players minimum. Also view distance should be limited - map looks odd from air. Not SoT at all but still good map.
Operation Dynamo = best FH2 map ever.
I don't see how this is too big since it has only three flags at a time (SoT much ?) and tons of planes which obviously need plenty of space.
It is too big because there are no terrain forms forcing people to choose one route or another. There are no natural bottlenecks no place to form a front line with so few players. Too much space for flanking makes it too hard to defend.
Push system is not enough - would be nic to see such big map or even bigger (I hope to see such on eastern front) but it needs to be better designed. This kind of map with such amount of vehicles would be awesome but with about 200-300 players minimum.
We all appreciate your hard work in making these maps. A fantastic job indeed.
For what i played in the 126 player week, i have noticed that with a bit of work all maps could be very easily enter the FH2 standards, but unfortunatly nowadays its all talk and no help by some people. ::)
Im eager to play the maps again, especially if its in a ForgottenHonor campaign with the teamwork that it deserves.
Best of luck to you all and if you need any kind of help/support for the project do not hesitate to contact me.
Theres no reason to discuss this here in the Puby Forums.
Answers there given in the Intern Forums, this is here more like torches and pitchfork against some Devs.
Tbh. now there its canceled i read more from French Hope Members then in the last Year :p
Snoox you don't seem to be a member on the new private forums so I'm not sure what you know, but Natty isn't the person that decides these things by himself, and he has been more constructive than some other devs in this matter.
Good, everyone's welcome except you Natty, a private night on your mod give me this right, i invite who it want in my house !
Of course !Beautiful! Why this was changed before? Original lightning on this map looks awesome, it is the same as in some testing video which can be found somewhere on YouTube, right?
La varde get back her original light set-up, real assault happened around 19H a sunny summer sunday.
http://i46.servimg.com/u/f46/14/76/68/04/screen29.jpg (http://i46.servimg.com/u/f46/14/76/68/04/screen29.jpg)
What happened with these maps made by team Cont@ct (or French Hope) which were played some time ago - I remembered there was beach map, Berchtesgaden, St.Mere Eglise? (night map), map with quite big town and objectives to destroy and some map located somewehere in Mediterranean theatre...
NEWS COMING SOON ;)
We used them internally and weren't impressed.
We used them internally and weren't impressed.
well, your maps arnt quite impressing. just a friendly advise.
Nor are yours, just a friendly advice.We used them internally and weren't impressed.
well, your maps arnt quite impressing. just a friendly advise.
C'mon girls, dont be hatin'
Because some people bring the truth a bit too hard, then others have to make a douchy remark about it and then others have to make a douchy remark about the douchy remark and then there's another douchy remark and well, then the moderator sighs and posts something. That's why.
Not trying to justify anything, you just sounded like an arrogant dick.Because some people bring the truth a bit too hard, then others have to make a douchy remark about it and then others have to make a douchy remark about the douchy remark and then there's another douchy remark and well, then the moderator sighs and posts something. That's why.
When a Betatester posts an idiotic reply like that about a Developer decicion, its seen on as douchebaggery, you are supposed to represent the team, and Not like that. dont try to justifice yourself or any other. wich includes myself, now lets play along nicely. :)
Actually, if you are active on the forum long enough, yer... you kinda know your shit, Kwiot
1000+ (Let alone 5000+) posts means you are active enough on the forum to speak with confidence. Being a BT is just an added bonus.
Now can we fiukin move back to the mod??
Actually, if you are active on the forum long enough, yer... you kinda know your shit, Kwiot
1000+ (Let alone 5000+) posts means you are active enough on the forum to speak with confidence. Being a BT is just an added bonus.
Now can we fiukin move back to the mod??
No, I have over 1000 hours played this game, so... But if we are listening to the forum spammers... Yeah, not surprised that this mod is heading into nowhere... ::)
Actually, if you are active on the forum long enough, yer... you kinda know your shit, Kwiot
1000+ (Let alone 5000+) posts means you are active enough on the forum to speak with confidence. Being a BT is just an added bonus.
Now can we fiukin move back to the mod??
No, I have over 1000 hours played this game, so... But if we are listening to the forum spammers... Yeah, not surprised that this mod is heading into nowhere... ::)
Statistically, those who have that many posts have been here since like 2005? And have been playing Fh1 through Fh 2.0 till now....
Information about the game flows through the devs forum, the beta tester forum, the public forum (past and present) and the little meaningles chats ingame.
So if you want to limit yourself to information about French Hope, Fh2 and how gameplay is only by opinions online, that's cool. But all I'm saying is, there's a bit more to knowledge about the mod than just that.
And seriously, this mod is going nowhere? I - DIDN'T - KNOW - THAT. I'm sure those who said it in 2007 when the mod seemed to be taking forever to be released were saying the same thing then (5 years ago)
We outlive such comments mate. And that's simply because the devs make some good shit.
What is this? Some sort of contest? The fact that I'm a tetabester means nothing about what I say on the forums and frankly I don't see what playing time has to do with that. I tried out FH1 in 2006 and found out that FH2 was released in January 2008 so my hours can easily match up to that.Actually, if you are active on the forum long enough, yer... you kinda know your shit, Kwiot
1000+ (Let alone 5000+) posts means you are active enough on the forum to speak with confidence. Being a BT is just an added bonus.
Now can we fiukin move back to the mod??
No, I have over 1000 hours played this game, so... But if we are listening to the forum spammers... Yeah, not surprised that this mod is heading into nowhere... ::)
Anyway, let's not argue about trivial matters. It really isn't conducive to a good community and a good community is what FH2 needs (and for the most part, has). What maps are confirmed to be in this mod?
nobody? except most of the testers and devs ;)
Stonne still has chance as it is the best of French Hope maps
nobody? except most of the testers and devs ;)
Stonne still has chance as it is the best of French Hope maps
That's what I mean... Nobody from "public" know them....
I am seriously impressed by not only the maps and their creativity but also by the persistence of the French Hope developer's to get published under the Fh2 title. Your work deserves a place in Fh2 alongside everything else. editorial concerns aside, i feel that many maps need to tried under real gaming conditions, not under the artificial constraint of a limited, self editing tester base.
To my mind, It is like Da Vinci telling Michaelangelo that his Sistine Chapel looks like shit.
nobody? except most of the testers and devs ;)
Stonne still has chance as it is the best of French Hope maps
That's what I mean... Nobody from "public" know them....
Well nobody from "public" has any say in the matter, so... It's up to the devs, and they knw a good map when they see one.
Phone Natty he will explain to you what is wrong :)
Phone Natty he will explain to you what is wrong :)
I dont think even the most masochistic person would dare to endure that kind of torture.
we always dance around the subject but with limited Dev team and small tester base, we limit opinion.
With limited opinion comes limited input and exceptional bias. (thousands of players opinions negated by a couple dozen testers and Devs)
The WaW naval maps are the best example in my opinion as they have worked well for years now but still haven't been graced with formal Fh2 acceptance. Maybe it is time to accept that the standards of the public are lower than those of the tightly knit and highly privileged Dev team.
As pointed out by Capitaine S35, most the French hoper's quit because they were discouraged. How does one build a limited team up in numbers when those of us who can contribute are pushed away from the door before we get a chance to go inside? (based upon Azrael's recent statement of limited resources)
As an Fh2 player since day 15, I can honestly recall how shitty some of the maps were but they still met the FH2 standard (of that time), so why have the goals been moved beyond the reach of the common man?
Like I said, "it's Da Vinci saying to Michaelangelo that the Sistine chapel isn't good enough"
...I dont think any body is trying to say Devs and Testers are evil elitist group ;) It is just suggestions and opinions. I think you guys have done great job, and i never said otherwise, but, it doesint stop me for suggesting things that i believe personally would make it even better =)
...Sorry Djinn, but i dont agree, many maps look quite similar in design, so replayablity is not nessecery higher if you make maps as IRL looking as possible. With this map editor you can make very diffrent gameplay maps. Maps like Berlin 1945, or Coral Sea (only airplanes). That is what i would call replayablity in this game personally. With maps that gameplay style differ a lot from eachother.
But what would happen if i didint agree with a dev while making a map?
their whole content was presented on public beta test so anyone who was interested could see it.Link please? I'd really like to see the new skin you made for my pan-pan :)
You still have the maps right? .... RIGHT?! :'(
Yes we still have it, but we have many versions ^^
Yes we still have it, but we have many versions ^^
So you will upload the latest version of all of the maps?
Are there any huge changes to them?
I'll look after the pb on La Varde. try the 32 or 16 version in conquest.
The devs opinion on Stonne was really good, but it lacks the FH2 atmospher. I'm trying to adding it and then send it to the devs.
Maps like Phoney War, Bir Hakeim, etc need to be finished, and i'm really focused on Stonne, so i don't have any time to spend on those maps, for the moment.
Also, will you upload Stonne to the public like the other 3 maps, or will you secretly give it to the Devs for next patch?
;DAlso, will you upload Stonne to the public like the other 3 maps, or will you secretly give it to the Devs for next patch?
Surely both =P
Here are the latest version of the mappack :
http://www.sendspace.com/file/23amr9
The push on La Varde is made in cq32, so you must play sedan and dynamo on cq64 and la varde on cq32.
You MUST delete the old folder of La Varde and replace it by the new one.
Is the gameplay good?
Can we see more pictures?
Or an overview with the control points?
But it also dependes on how (if) you make forward spawning vehicles so that you dont have to drive from the mainbases each time you die.
i just noticed theres a dirt road going from panzer_div to farm thats not on the map, still thats a hell of a drive, I think I would claw my face off if I drove tank all the way from A8 to B2 and got blown up. I suggest moving the panzer div main flag to B5, to cut down drive time.
In 2.45 you can find in the files a French Army version of the Citroen 11cv
Perhaps the first official fh2 French army vehicle available in the mod
Now you can scout your WIP maps in true French style :D
For object templates the vehicle name is:
"Citroen_11cv_fr"
Merci
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h200/Herc_Images/citroen_11cv_fr2.jpg)
i made forwardspawnpoints with vehicles a long time ago, both closer to the farm And between the panzer division and gross deutschland. i dont know if this is in the version you guys are playing
Maybe driving with this ?
Terrot 500 Type R
(http://terrot.dijon.free.fr/PhotoQZ/Bourdin.jpg) or its AT version...(http://genieminiature.com/pages%20motos%20mili/G4.jpg)
But shouldn't "Stonne North" be called "Stonne South"?
Since north is at the bottom.
This map looks almost official! ;D
Maps!?
You mean more than one? 8)
Stonne is the only one being developed right now,
There is a lower chance for Sedan,
but it could be implemented...
Stonne is the only one being developed right now,
There is a lower chance for Sedan,
but it could be implemented...
oh... ::) pardon me. Im new to this topic. :)
Erm, I know its a bit late to ask but; will this map contain French playermodels and weapons?No, not until it's approved by devs to be an official map. Interesting changes. You made farm an uncap, won't this make the flanking throu the forrest kinda pointless? also for the public test, make sure that you have kits that are somewhat similar to what french will/might have. Like giving allies Boys/Sticky might affect the balance when French probably wont have Boys and certainly not sticky.
Erm, I know its a bit late to ask but; will this map contain French playermodels and weapons?No, not until it's approved by devs to be an official map. Interesting changes. You made farm an uncap, won't this make the flanking throu the forrest kinda pointless? also for the public test, make sure that you have kits that are somewhat similar to what french will/might have. Like giving allies Boys/Sticky might affect the balance when French probably wont have Boys and certainly not sticky.
A one man team! xD :P
Where did everyone go?
Pretty cool!!! This will be an exciting mod!!!FH team really needs statics modelers if you are interested
What kind of statics are you needing for maps?
I am currently trying to figure out how the whole bf2/fh2 modeling workflow works... I currently have been working mostly in Maya (I am an animation student), but I did a lot of model modification in gmax for bf1942, but all I did there was push and pull vertices, not really generate any original stuff.
The link below is an Sdkfz 234/3 I did last semester for game art assets class. I modeled and textured the whole vehicle from the reference image shown in black and whiate at the bottom of the image.
here is the link:
http://flic.kr/p/cDzW9N
Of course, we are always looking for 3d artists that are interested and willing to help us out!Pretty cool!!! This will be an exciting mod!!!FH team really needs statics modelers if you are interested
What kind of statics are you needing for maps?
I am currently trying to figure out how the whole bf2/fh2 modeling workflow works... I currently have been working mostly in Maya (I am an animation student), but I did a lot of model modification in gmax for bf1942, but all I did there was push and pull vertices, not really generate any original stuff.
The link below is an Sdkfz 234/3 I did last semester for game art assets class. I modeled and textured the whole vehicle from the reference image shown in black and whiate at the bottom of the image.
here is the link:
http://flic.kr/p/cDzW9N (http://flic.kr/p/cDzW9N)
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/news.php?id_news=408 (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/news.php?id_news=408)
If there will be a French faction in the mod,
will it be French and British kits?
Like in Tunis or Sidi Rezegh there are Italian and German kits.
French will have M3 grant, panhard, M3 Stuart.
For the moment i've put a M4a1 for the somua, but i will change this, it's too strong.
The server is not ready since i've got some troubles with lightmaps.
Edit:now its a crusader mk1early instead of m4a1
(Calm down pizzzaman, calm down)Ah, I see you're getting there ;)
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Tbh I was hoping that Pain de Sucre had been made more interesting than still just a sandbag circle. No AT, no trench or tank traps etc, just a lone barrel to fight over :P
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One thing I dont understand is, why is the north at bottom and south at the top?Because original mapper liked it this way. North is where acutal Stonne North should be, it was told somewhere on one of 60 pages of this thread that it's feels better gameplay wise or something and he rotated original terrain.
http://www.moddb.com/company/french-hope/images/battle-for-stonne-1940#imageboxI had a very strange dream that I was playtesting this map last night, I was manning a machine gun in a huge Char 1B tank. haha
99% complete!! ;D
I can't wait!
I have good news! ;D
If only it was true...
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Are we testing again?
It was fun! :D
Maybe we will do another test, when this 130 server would be down, and after some changes.
have you started to cure your hyperactivity disorder yet?
Yes, of all French Hope maps it's clearly the best. Doesn't mean they will work on it though...They certainly will, you have my word. ;)
Gonna test it this week ;)
Stonne is off to be in the mod,
Stonne is off to be in the mod,
Source?
I think I know what test map E is... ;D
I'm afraid we might never see another test of those maps again. :(
Stonne is off to be in the mod,
But Warsaw Uprising might get more tests.
Also if CtpdeS35 reworks previous maps like
Sedan or Dunkirk, we might have another
test on our hands. :)
But for now, don't expect to see a test recently,
unless they change their minds to! ;)
Was Stonne Test map E,The point of those names is that you don't know :P
or Test map F?
maybe it should be with FH2, cause in that way, that will make FH2 more interesting, and you dont need to change wole game to play French hope, anyway you guys know, and hope for more surprises like this one :D
But has the goal been achieved yet? ;)and do you have any french map in game?
I think it more likely FH2 will make its own French maps.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_t4oY2AFkthw/SwLEYkwSiRI/AAAAAAAAFMk/MOQqAzDs1ig/s1600/dreamcrusher.jpg)
Hi CptdeS35, I just wanted to tell you some things about the 16player version of Stonne: First of all I think this map is good for skirmishes and has some nice ideas.
As we tested for like ten minutes yesterday, there won't be too much information to give. Here some things:
-The smoke on the outskirts and the church drops my FPS quite a bit; don't know if this is my laptop
overheating or bugging but I never had location-related FPS - drops.
-There is missing lightning in the church; it looks to bright.
-Some of the (really good) propaganda "posters" (I'm in a hurry and cannot look every word up, sorry) lack lightning too I think.
Otherwise, nice maplayer so far :)
This is about to be placed in a folder along with 1944 D-DAY : Operation Overlord
:P
Perhaps CptdeS35 is consumed by too much school work and cannot work on the mod?Even if he is still working on something, better assume French Hope isn't gonna see the light of day. By posting stuff like "Oh, they're planning something...." you raise expectations without even knowing what's going on with French Hope.
Hi Cpt.
Is there any chance of single player support for those interesting French Hope maps as a project for someone with the SP mapping skills? id love to play Stonne or Sedan in Single player...would love some more quality single player maps.
All the best...
sockboy
At the moment, i really can't release dynamo and sedan. After getting back to work, i've walked a few on the maps...and yes it was more like PR than FH2. i didn't get the feeling of FH2...since in 1 map, there were the possibility to make at least 2 maps !Maybe you could give the maps to PR: Normandy then
So you will be adding this? :DI don't think so
Then why show us a video?why not?
Why for? ;)Then why show us a video?why not?
Then why show us a video?
I think its time for a French Hope beta test......I bet that CptdeS35 thinks something else otherwise HE would inform you.
I think its time for a French Hope beta test......I bet that CptdeS35 thinks something else otherwise HE would inform you.
Why so negative all the time jan? Perhaps HE will share his thoughts after my thought provoking post.maybe I know his thoughts? :P
;)
Why so negative all the time jan? Perhaps HE will share his thoughts after my thought provoking post.maybe I know his thoughts? :P
;)
I think its time for a French Hope beta test......I bet that CptdeS35 thinks something else otherwise HE would inform you.
Why so negative all the time jan? Perhaps HE will share his thoughts after my thought provoking post.
;)
Why does this mod always make want to say loudly ... VIA LA FRANCE !!! .... while smoking a strong cigarette ?Because France is kickass. And so is the French Hope mod.
It would be "Vive la France!" I guess :P
Anything new in French Hope? :)It's pretty safe to assume in this case that if they aren't showing anything, there isn't anything new.
Devs havent been showing anything for a while, but they got a whole Eastern Front under construction. Where is your god now, huh? ;DYeaaaah but they've actually been showing stuff.
Then you must have enjoyed the little teaser i put on the end of Hawk's trailer ;)