Gaddafi and Libya

[Gezoes]

Steiner8834, that's a lot of assumptions for a 21 year old. Could be, you could also be completely wrong. Perhaps you should look into his, shall we say, not so co-operative years. I never believed this 'being-nice' act of Madaffi. I'll spare you people the AA pictures from february, but if this hugging a butcher goes any further, it's getting mighty hard not to show them.

Let's try this instead

[Stefan]

you are telling that the wrong guys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpOrd03HKAY

[Steiner8834]

Steiner8834, that's a lot of assumptions for a 21 year old. Could be, you could also be completely wrong. Perhaps you should look into his, shall we say, not so co-operative years. I never believed this 'being-nice' act of Madaffi. I'll spare you people the AA pictures from february, but if this hugging a butcher goes any further, it's getting mighty hard not to show them.

Let's try this instead

Believe me it will happen as it is already happening in Egypt. The evil guys from the "Muslim Brotherhood" are already leading the polls in Egypt. Their ultimate goal is to establish a world wide islamic caliphate.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1235

Written sometime in 1987 but not formally published until May 22, 1991, this 18-page document listed the Brotherhood’s 29 likeminded "organizations of our friends" that shared the common goal of dismantling American institutions and turning the U.S. into a Muslim nation. These "friends" were identified by Akram and the Brotherhood as groups that could help convince Muslims "that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house by their hands ... so that ... God's religion [Islam] is made victorious over all other religions."

Well and it looks like that these guys will win the elections in october.

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

Libya might well be screwed, but at least they'll have a chance to get it right. They didn't even have a chance before.

On the other hand, people said Kosovo and Bosnia would become Islamic caliphates too and that didn't happen. Foreign intervention has a way of strengthening the factions of a movement that don't hate foreigners.

[DLFReporter]

Yeah guys, don't give in into this world caliphate bs....
The Muslim Brotherhood is just one more organisation that wants to gain political power in a democratic system. I can't stress this enough, Germany is run at the moment by the Christian Democratic Party... oh noes, religious nuts in power... help! ^^

[Fuchs]

To be honest, more worried about the Christian-Democrats than the Muslim Brotherhood.

Religion + politics = please no, kill it with fire.

[Steiner8834]

Yeah guys, don't give in into this world caliphate bs....
The Muslim Brotherhood is just one more organisation that wants to gain political power in a democratic system. I can't stress this enough, Germany is run at the moment by the Christian Democratic Party... oh noes, religious nuts in power... help! ^^

Let me guess you're a liberal or "Gutmensch", right? 

Truth hurts I know but it is a fact that the MB wants the world domination.

The Leader of Muslim Brotherhood Mustafa Mashhur wrote the following about the tasks of the MB.

PMW has selected the following quotes from Jihad is the way to illustrate central ideas of Muslim Brotherhood ideology. PMW's translation of the book follows below.

National goal: Islamic world domination
- "...the Islamic Ummah [nation]... can regain its power and be liberated and assume its rightful position which was intended by Allah, as the most exalted nation among men , as the leaders of humanity..."
- "...know your status, and believe firmly that you are the masters of the world, even if your enemies desire your degradation..."
- "It should be known that Jihad and preparation towards Jihad are not only for the purpose of fending-off assaults and attacks of Allah's enemies from Muslims, but are also for the purpose of realizing the great task of establishing an Islamic state and strengthening the religion and spreading it around the world..."
- "...Jihad for Allah is not limited to the specific region of the Islamic countries, since the Muslim homeland is one and is not divided, and the banner of Jihad has already been raised in some of its parts, and it shall continue to be raised, with the help of Allah, until every inch of the land of Islam will be liberated, the State of Islam will be established,..."

Means: Jihad - a mandatory religious duty
-"Then comes the power of arms and weapons,... and this is the role of Jihad."
- "Jihad is a religious public duty... incumbent upon the Islamic nation, and is a personal duty to fend off the infidels' attack on the nation..."
- "And the youth should know that the problems of the Islamic world, such as Palestine, Afghanistan, Syria, Eritrea, or the Philippines, are not issues of territories and nations, but of faith and religion. They are problems of Islam and all Muslims, and their resolution cannot be negotiated and bargained by recognizing the enemy's right to the Islamic land he stole, therefore, there is no other option but Jihad for Allah, and this is why Jihad is the way."
- "The symbol of the [Muslim] Brotherhood is the book of Allah [the Quran] between two swords. The swords symbolize Jihad and the force that protects the truth represented in Allah's book."
- "...that is, go out to battle, oh believers, young and old, by foot or with animal, under all circumstances and conditions..."

Timing: Don't rush, prepare carefully for Jihad
- "... despite this, the [Muslim] Brotherhood is not rushed by youth's enthusiasm into immature and unplanned action which will not alter the bad reality and may even harm the Islamic activity, and will benefit the people of falsehood..."
- "... one should know that it is not necessary that the Muslims will repel every attack or damage caused by the enemies of Allah immediately, but [only] when ability and the circumstances are fit to it."
- "Prepare yourself and train in the art of warfare, and embrace the causes of power. You must learn the ways and manners and laws of war. You must learn them and embrace them and adhere to them, so that your Jihad will be the one accepted by Allah."
- "... there exists an unavoidable personal duty for every Muslim to equip himself and prepare and gear-up towards Jihad..."

Personal goal: Aspire to Shahada - Death for Allah
- "Allah is our goal, the Prophet is our leader, the Quran is our constitution, the Jihad is our way, and the Death for Allah is our most exalted wish."
- "The Jihad is our way and death for Allah is our most lofty wish", this is the call which we have always called,... Many of our beloved ones have already achieved this wish,... We ask Allah to accept all of them,... and may He join us with them, ..."

Jihad against Israel:
- "Honorable brothers have achieved Shahada (Martyrdom) on the soil of beloved Palestine, during the years 47' and 48', [while] in their Jihad against the criminal, thieving, gangs of Zion. The Imam and Shahid (Martyr) Hassan Al-Banna is considered as a Shahid (Martyr) of Palestine, even if he was not killed on its soil."

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/02/muslim-brotherhood-prepare-yourself-and-train-in-the-art-of-warfareso-that-your-jihad-will-be-the-on.html

[Captain Pyjama Shark]

Its a trap, Libyan rebel scum! Gadhafi has unleashed his fully armed and operational battle station!

[Steiner8834]

To be honest, more worried about the Christian-Democrats than the Muslim Brotherhood.

Religion + politics = please no, kill it with fire.

The same goes for the MB because if we dont stop them, they will undermine us and establish an islamic caliphate in Europe.

[DLFReporter]

Let me guess you're a liberal or "Gutmensch", right? 
Truth hurts I know but it is a fact that the MB wants the world domination.
The Leader of Muslim Brotherhood Mustafa Mashhur wrote the following about the tasks of the MB.

You out yourself more and more. The therm "Gutmensch' was coined by Goebbels himself.

[Gezoes]

The Brotherhood is but a shadow of its former self, but I agree it's something to watch, for sure. But I'm with Raptor on this, if we never try, things will never change. We have to try. Maybe I even agree with Gadhaffi in power like before this conflict, there is something to say for dictators controlling a diverse population. That has changed now, he has to go and he brought this upon himself. Thing is, Libya isn't uneducated, most people in urban areas have a high education, it's not a country of camelriders who happen to live in cities.

Lots of things (plenty of Grads) flying around in the capital.. heavy fighting.

[Fuchs]

To be honest, more worried about the Christian-Democrats than the Muslim Brotherhood.

Religion + politics = please no, kill it with fire.

The same goes for the MB because if we dont stop them, they will undermine us and establish an islamic caliphate in Europe.

To replace the Christian overlords we have now? Nothing will change. Maybe the colours.

[Zoologic]

That is outright scaremongering.

I take it as ignorant as saying that "all white men are racists."

Let's go ranting like a real ignorant:

Hooray for Google, I can back my claims with so many websites that I've found to prove my dubious point:

http://www.hopesite.ca/remember/history/racism_canada_1.html
http://www.rc.org/uer/TheRoleofWhites.html
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/white_racism_forever.html
http://www.peopleofcolororganize.com/opinion/10-conversations-racism-im-sick-having-white-people/
eeew...

Before they really end it, they even started to talk about reverse discrimination, oh the irony!
http://rightbias.com/News/031508race.aspx

experience:
German people, Europeans studying to Australia are not required to have IELTS test.
We are strictly required, even for making visa.
I saw many German students bring dictionaries and keep asking me questions about the meaning (thinking they would understand the semi-Dutch word we uttered).
Blood is thicker than water! Ha-ha

Islamic Caliphate is only the idea of SOME people. Certainly not all Muslim would agree with that, some argued that the concept is out of date, others sees that we must return the world to the era of the Prophet: the 7th century or so. They ban dancing, musics, TVs, technologies, telephones, except probably AK-47s, plastic explosives or military radio. A lot of Muslims view this as contradiction.

The day when jesters tells more sense than self-proclaimed enlightened person, it is indeed the end of the world.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18911_5-ridiculous-things-you-probably-believe-about-islam.html

[Steiner8834]

Let me guess you're a liberal or "Gutmensch", right? 
Truth hurts I know but it is a fact that the MB wants the world domination.
The Leader of Muslim Brotherhood Mustafa Mashhur wrote the following about the tasks of the MB.

You out yourself more and more. The therm "Gutmensch' was coined by Goebbels himself.

Sure because I'm against a islamic theocracy where girls are stoned to death and gays are hanged I must be a National Socialist or something like that. You're absolutely wrong mate. My political belief is American Republicanism. If you don't know what it is read it here:

Republicanism is the political value system that has been a major part of American civic thought since the American Revolution.[1] It stresses liberty and inalienable rights as central values, makes the people as a whole sovereign, supports activist government to promote the common good, rejects inherited political power, expects citizens to be independent in their performance of civic duties, and vilifies corruption.[2] American republicanism was founded and first practiced by the Founding Fathers in the 18th century. This system was based on early Roman, Renaissance and English models and ideas.[3] It formed the basis for the American Revolution and the consequential Declaration of Independence (1776) and the Constitution (1787), as well as the Gettysburg Address.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republicanism_in_the_United_States

[THeTA0123]

all goverments are evil
All religion are evil

I dont wanna be part of neither