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Forgotten Hope 2 => Community Polls => Topic started by: Eat Uranium on 06-04-2009, 02:04:40
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I'd imagine that this poll existed at some time on the FF forums, but I felt that it should be asked again in light of all the new news.
Please read before voting!
This poll is split into 2 groups. Each theatre is mentioned twice, once preceded by 'Hope' and the second time by 'Expect'. You have 2 votes, the idea being you pick one theatre you want to be done next, and one you think the devs are most likely to do next. You can change your vote. Sorry if it seems overly complicated.
Early Eastern Front - Invasion of Poland by Ger/Rus; Winter war; Op Barbarossa. Also includes the Balkans.
Late Eastern Front - After the tide turned and Ger is on the defensive; Continuation and Lapland wars.
Early Western Front - Invasion of France and the Low Countries by Ger/Ita.
Late Western Front - Continuing on from Normandy onto BotB, the Rhine etc.
Italian Front - Invasion of Scilly and Italy by Com/USA.
Pacific Theatre - Campaign by USA against Jap across the islands and seas of the Pacific.
SE Asian Front - Actions by the Chinese, KNIL, USA + Com against Jap on mainland Asia + Indonesian islands.
Well, I expect the next theatre to be Italy. All the stuff is there, especially with the donated models from the FH campaign. I would like the next theatre to be the early Russian front, with some Winter/ Continuation war action. I really want some Pz38t vs T26 action, PPSH blazing away.
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I hope the pacific, but I expect the damned eastern front. :'(
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I hope the eastern front, but I expect the pacific.
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I hope Pacific, only cause it gives the devs another chance to add the P-51, but I expect Italy next.
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I expect Early eastern, But i really hope they do Mars next, ;)
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My guess is Normandy because that is what the devs have said. ;D
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I hope for the Pacific, but I expect the early Western front. I mean, doing the Western front would be easier and I expect the Dev's to do what's easiest. The Pacific's like a whole other reality compared to the war in Europe so anything in Europe is going to be easier with the assets there are now. So while I would love for the Pacific and if I had any sway, that's what I'd do next, I don't expect the team to do that.
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Expect Italy and Late Eastern front..,we have alot of Late german stuff. Hope Pacific.
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I expect early western and late western
DONT STRAY TO FAR FROM WHAT YOU HAVE! NO PACIFIC
Eastern but for sure western!!!
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Arnhem, Arnhem, Arnhem.
nuff' said
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I don't really mind what will be the next theater,
as long as I learn something new about the second World War, I will be happy, but if I have to choose,
I'll say the next theater will be Italy and I hope for the winter war with the Finns.
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Expect: Late Western front im geussing they are going to complete the theatre they are in before moving on to the next one.
Hope: Early Eastern, cause i would love it.
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I hope for early eastern but i expect italian (or late western).
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I hope Eastern or Pacific, but expect late Western or Italy.
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I hope Italian and expect it ;D
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Hope and Expect Late Western Front.
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Hope Late Western Front (Ardennes etc.), expect Italian, for economic reasons.
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Hope for Late Eastern Front, but i expect Pacific Front.
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I hope eastren front and expect italy aswel
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Late western Front, Cross the Rhein, Arnheim...... ;D
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Arnhem, Arnhem, Arnhem.
nuff' said
That's my line!
Arnhem, Arnhem, Arnhem.
:D
Seriously though:
I hope for the early eastern front so that there I have a lot of diversity (playing commie, commie killer in the snow, dangling down a parachute as yank or tommie in France, picking off yanks on the beaches with my K98 or MG42 or playing in the big sandbox). Early westfront would also be nice.
I expect: Late west front, as there has been made a whole lot of stuff for the "late western European" theatre for Normandy so it should be easy to extend this to the Netherlands (Operation Market Garden), the Battle of the Bulge (a bit more work but still) or the final push towards Berlin from the west.
I wouldn't be suprised of the Italian front got some more love.
I wouldn't mind either theatre though. So whatever they decide upon, I should be good. :)
The Pacific and SE Asian threatre would be a whole lot different, it would take much much more time to make statics, vehicles, player models, weapons etc. for it so it would be a very unlikely choice.
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I hope to see the early Western front. Nothing beats blitzkrieging through Europe with those early tank models. Also I´d really love to see more unknown countries like Belgium or France in a video game.
But somehow I expect the campaigns that follow D-Day....which are cool but we´ve seen them in too many video games. But I guess they´re "crowd pleaser" so that would be the next logical choice...
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Also I´d really love to see more unknown countries like Belgium or France in a video game.
Never heard of those countries, where are they? ;D
But yeah, I would love to see these countries being crushedimplemented in FH2. Eben Emael, hehe, it would be awesome to spawn from the roof of the fortress as german (or land on it with a glider).
On a sidenote, I rethought it, actually I do of course think the late western front is coming next, as it is logical. However, the next major front I still guess is the Pacific, for the sake of the yanks. On the other hand, they could be happy enough with Normandy...
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Unknown from a video game´s point of view, of course ^^
The most interesting thing in early Western Front is the fact that the German Panzers aren´t the invulnerable steel monsters from the late wars. Often they were even inferior and Blitzkrieg tactics had to be used to defeat them. Early Panzer3s, Panzer2s and the Skoda tanks...it´d be great to have them fighting heavy French tanks ^^
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I hope its pacific but expect it to be late eastern front.
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Unknown from a video game´s point of view, of course ^^
The most interesting thing in early Western Front is the fact that the German Panzers aren´t the invulnerable steel monsters from the late wars. Often they were even inferior and Blitzkrieg tactics had to be used to defeat them. Early Panzer3s, Panzer2s and the Skoda tanks...it´d be great to have them fighting heavy French tanks ^^
I.e. calling in the three stukas that are circling the sky like vultures. ;)
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Exactly. There´s nothing more satisfying than calling in a succesful air-strike on a unsuspecting target, like a big Char B :D
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I hope for early western front! I would love to see the french equipment and use Panzer Is :). I never saw it in a game before.
I expect the pacific as the next theatre because it might lure more american players into the game ::)
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Exactly. There´s nothing more satisfying than calling in a succesful air-strike on a unsuspecting target, like a big Char B :D
I wonder when the PzGr40 came into service? The PzkwII might do some carnage with that if they already used it in france.
EDIT: Uranium, you ain't alone, I'm not too much into pacific warfare as well as portrayed in FPS so far.
But with a lot of jungle, open environment (not like the railshooters, MOH etc.), it could give a nice new style of gameplay.
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Its probably just me, but I can't see the attraction of the Pacific theatre. Maybe its because I can't get into the whole naval side of it. I'd much rather fight the japanese in Burma and China than on the Islands.
Nice to see all the feedback though. Currently, it seems that the late western front is expected next, while the love is for the early eastern and pacific. No love for SE asia though :(.
Panzer Is are cool.
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I think most people just selected what they want to see next. Anyways just as you I also expect Italian theatre, like I said in another thread. Late Westfront also looks very logical. Maybe Ostfront/Pacific for public demand.
Deep inside I hope for Early Westfront. The Blitzkrieg. I liked those maps the most in FH0.7 and I can't think of any FPS that features the real early theatre of war without focussing on Ostfront or Pacific.
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I expect Italy, 'cause most of the existing vehicels, models, textures and statics could be reused for this theater. But I hope for early Western front with some hot French-German action :D
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About the Italian theatre: I don't think the devs will concentrate on this like they concentrate on Normandy right now. However: There are mediterrean statics and there will be late war western allied and german vehicles. So a dev could easily say "Dude that monte Cassino battle sure is interesting" and make the map. With the release of Normandy the Italian Front is practically in the mod.
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I hope for early eastern front, any Pacific maps would be good too.
Expect the expansion of Normandy into either late or early western font as there will be a lot of content relevant to those battles.
Whatever it is I will be looking forward to it!
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Italy!
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I just hope the russians will be after pacific. Too many game are about the great patriotic war and the gameplay will have similarity with africa (tank warfare). I prefer late western front, but I don't see it like a new front because, it's like normandy for the gameplay (not for the sets). The pacific front come with new gameplay and some jungle static are allready ingame (with the BF2 chinese theater). I know the dev have to make more statics, but It will be nice to see pacific.
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To me at least, the Western Front and a lot of the European theatre is like the McDonald's of WW2. Its the mass produced form of the war in whatever genres its presented, and is generally pretty much presented the same in all formats and in a way I feel is bland and which I fear may happen with FH2 in Europe as well. The Pacific in my opinion has a certain unique quality.
Plus, there's the possibility of kamikaze planes and suicide combat. And its not just an American theatre. The Pacific war involved as much of the world as Europe (even if the US and Empire of Japan were the two biggest players), from Australians to Brits to Indians to Frenchman to the Chinese to even the Soviets.
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Same feeling would give the early western front then.
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Hoping for Early (or late, but can only choose one) Eastern Front. It's my favourite front of WWII because of it's extremeness. TWo ideologies who really hated each other clashed in arms. Wow. I disagree on the gameplaytype being somewhat the same as in Africa: in 0.7 Orel was a nice map which combined tank warfare with CQC in the town. I loved Stalingrad '42, where the Russians had to get over the river first. Add some strafing Stukas and the feast is complete!
I also hope for Eastern Front for the variety, like Donutz said.
My other (small) hope is for Blitzkrieg in 1940 and hopefully a map in the Netherlands, as I have never seen any videogame doung one, except for Arnehm, which is not early Western and didn't see much combat by Dutchies.
I expect Italy, or Late Western for the same reasons as previously mentioned.
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I hope for a proper Italian campaign, something missing in fh1, and I expect it too, given how easy it would be (comparably) with all the assets already in place.
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I want early eastern, but I expect Late Western, Market Garden and the Ardennes etc are a huge expected after Normandy, mainly Market Garden. I could see italy, considering they have the italians and now US (once normandy), it would require new italian buildings though, so that would probably come as one of the "as it goes along, a few italian statics here and there" kind of thing, or at the end when flushing out final theaters. Unless we get some fan modelers that have great skill then maybe they'll use them :P
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I hope for eastern front. Why? Industrial city battles. Its a huge job for our static developers though. But I cannot forget those amazing battles in the city of orel.
And no, we've not decided which front will be next yet. Probably not before after the Normandy release.
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I hope for eastern front. Why? Industrial city battles. Its a huge job for our static developers though. But I cannot forget those amazing battles in the city of orel.
Well, on the Eastern Front limited areas for industrial city battles.
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My other (small) hope is for Blitzkrieg in 1940 and hopefully a map in the Netherlands, as I have never seen any videogame doung one, except for Arnehm, which is not early Western and didn't see much combat by Dutchies.
Some BF1942 mods have the Dutch in it. Forgotten Honor Tournament mod had them in it as far as I know. And let me think.. Ah! Battlegroup 42 also features the Dutch and they are still updating their mod with vehicles. I've seen them posting a Dutch armoured car :P You might try those out if you want to play as Dutch. Though no really online servers so I guess it'll be SP or Local.
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Eastern front or early western front (39/40)
:D because my job would be easy, fast and sweet :P
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And where did you suddenly get a load of weapon models from?
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He worked for other mods EU. BGF for example, he made alot of Ostfront stuff for that mod. Plus maybe he has been making French weapondary as a hobby, not for a mod.
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Eastern front or early western front (39/40)
:D because my job would be easy, fast and sweet :P
April Fools is over ;D :P
If Fall Gelb - 3 armies almost from scratch
If Barbarossa - 2 armies from scratch and tons of statics.
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If Barbarossa - 3 armies from scratch and tons of statics.
Fixed. :)
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Op. Barbarossa would need Russians, Germans and who else?? Poland?
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Finland.
And to be precise, the romanians and italians too.
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And Hungarians, or not?
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Op. Barbarossa would need Russians, Germans and who else?? Poland?
Romanian army, for example.
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Why on earth would they go through the trouble of including all those armies in an initial release?
Their presence in the war was important, obviously, but if they start wasting time by adding Romanians before the Japanese I'm going to be upset.
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Even if the would want to complete a front?
If the next would be late western front (likely), then it seems logical to me to complete it, by including minor parties after the major ones.
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I hope for whatever front will be QUICKEST for them to come out with after Normandy. With africa and normandy done, I believe that will mean doing either late western europe or Italy next. As for what I 'expect' them to do next...I'm not sure. I do LOVE the eastern front too(some of my favorite FH1 maps were east front). If I had to guess I think the move to the next front will be kind of like what the devs did when going from FH 2.1 to 2.15. Remember how news updates then showed us stuff from Africa and normandy. Some of the devs worked on/finished up some existing map ideas for Africa, while some others had already moved on to starting work on Normandy. I'm thinking there will be some devs(especially the mappers) who will want to do other maps in a front where statics/player models/weapons/equipment are pretty much done already(later west Europe or Italy), while the rest of the team could move on to start the player models, weapon modeling/skinning/coding/animating, statics, etc for the next 'whole new front' that would require a new army(And out of fronts that would require a whole new army, I hope for Eastern Europe before Pacific).
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I'm thinking there will be some devs(especially the mappers) who will want to do other maps in a front where statics/player models/weapons/equipment are pretty much done already, while the rest of the team could move on to start the player models, weapon modeling/skinning/coding/animating, statics, etc for the next 'whole new front' that would require a new army.
Thats not a bad idea actually (the opinion of an outsider). They could then work on a small new front with maybe 2 or 3 maps (like Finland), while also make a couple of Italian/French maps. The latter would come out a few months after as 2.25, then several months after that comes 2.3 with the next front.
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Battle of the Bulge/Ardennes
please...please...please...
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Dev's law states that they will do something that is completely un-expected and something that makes no sense. So I think we should all prepare to ship out to SE Asia in the next patch :D
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Then we should stop guessing, because if we guess correctly they will have to change the theater and maps, as per dev's law. Eventually they will have every map, static, and vehicle done, but will not be able to release updates because we will have guessed every battle of WW2.
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I hope late Eastern front (Lots of ruskies and MG-42's equals red snow)
But I bet my money on Italy, Sicily and then the road to Rome
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I reckon it'll be late Western Front, but hope for early Western Front.
I also have a mad pipe-dream of the FH devs consulting with the FHT guys on incorporating their superb Italian campaign into the mod - it would be a great way to get more maps and a new theatre into the mod, as well as recognising the talent the FHT guys have. Obviously this depends on how comfortable each FHT map maker is with the idea, and of course whether the devs will accept the maps as 'high enough quality'... Do the devs still require all maps to be meticulously based on real maps of the area?
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They never did. But I think the equipment has to be historical and the map must have a certain graphical quality.
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If that's the case (dev comment, please?) then I think the FHT guys really have every chance of getting at least some of their Italian maps into the mod. If they want to, of course - I in no way represent any of the parties involved, I'm just expressing my support for the idea.
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Someone somwhere said that the FHT was going to donate their Italy statics to FH when the campaign was over. Don't quote me on that though, but if its true, an Italian theatre would arrive very quickly.
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That is true, all material made by F|H T is available for the devs.
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I hope for Poland then the rest of the eastern front.
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I thought about this. All votes indicate a majority in expecting the late western front. I just thought about the time after that. Rather nonsense, I know. But then you have a situation in which the german forces are complete. And you'd also have the U.S. forces and Brits in. Besides some minor battlefields, that leaves two large battlefields opposing each other that would require amost the same amount of work from scratch. Pacific and eastern Front. And "Hope" votes for Pacific and eastern front are both strong in numbers. I guess that will be an interesting discussion then.
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I hope it's Pacific or Early Eastern Front.
Why? because, with the edition of Late Western you can make the other fronts from the other parts. Italian can be done with the Italian Africa weapons set and the American gear from Normandy, Late Western and Early Western can be done with a combination of some new french weaponry, Africa British weaponry, the American Gear, and the German gear [Vehicles get some newer skins]. So really for the Western front all you need is new maps and maybe some French gear. All in all those fronts would be faster to churn out.
With pacific you have to make sure Big boats work, I know you can have static boats, I don't know if you can get them to move as well as churn out a new army.
With Eastern front you have to make a new army. So both Pacific and Eastern front would be produced slower.
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But both of them come with a new gameplay.
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Early Eastern has never been done properly to date. Thus ---> way to go ;)
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FH 0.7 had Polish maps, but the early Op Barbarossa hasn't been done properly. I'd really like to see a Battle of Kiev map!
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I hope for early eastern just because of September Campaign and Talvisota ;D
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Early Eastern has never been done properly to date. Thus ---> way to go ;)
Better to go on the evolution way. I mean Normandy => combats in Holland, fall 1944 => Ardennes => combats in Germany, winter-spring 1945.
Early Eastern Front - it's too big battlefield. Totally different statics, tons of weapons, tanks etc.
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Better to go on the evolution way. I mean Normandy => combats in Holland, fall 1944 => Ardennes => combats in Germany, winter-spring 1945.
Early Eastern Front - it's too big battlefield. Totally different statics, tons of weapons, tanks etc.
A valid point, but I'd much rather wait for variety than have a series of almost similar quick releases. I don't mean similar map wise, more equipment/tactics wise. Of course, I would have no quarrel with the devs if they went down the latter path though.
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I would nonetheless say that the continuation of the western front already delivers a nice variation of both tactics and equipment. You can have a lot of different battle situations there, plus you can get new end-war equipment there. I have to agree that this seems the most promising way to go, even though I too would love to see some of the endless russian soil.
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Better to go on the evolution way. I mean Normandy => combats in Holland, fall 1944 => Ardennes => combats in Germany, winter-spring 1945.
Early Eastern Front - it's too big battlefield. Totally different statics, tons of weapons, tanks etc.
A valid point, but I'd much rather wait for variety than have a series of almost similar quick releases. I don't mean similar map wise, more equipment/tactics wise. Of course, I would have no quarrel with the devs if they went down the latter path though.
I think, given the dwindling population of BF2 (it has been going down slowly for the last two years or so) and the low interest in FH2 at the moment, that the devs have to capitalise on the influx that Normandy generates with faster Western Front releases to keep people 'hungry, yet satisfied'. When the Western Front has grown to cover a range of operations beyond Normandy, I think then would be the time to look East.
This would also work very well with the inclusion of Italy using lots of FHT's Italian campaign maps - lots of content for much less work on the devs' side than making things from scratch.