I´m sure someone very special (someone really special)will now call me a troll again
Nope, I won't
because this thread is maybe the most sensible thread you've written. At least you listed down specific feature and want to discuss them. Except that you twist and skew all the things in that list so it just becomes "troll-biased", I guess because you want to shine a negative light on the game and its features, if that makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside, then good for you.
The whole "Battlefield means" argument, the thing you seem to miss, is that all that is now re-newed. What Battlefield "meant" for people 6 years ago is different now. Updated, enhanced, because the leap in design- and tech evolution this game brings. Or should I say, this experience brings. as BF3 is more than a just a "game".
Yes, if "Battlefield" means jets colliding in mid-air to you BF3 might be your game, but if "Battlefield" means
-game innovations (massive combined arms battles that are set in innovative theatres for example);
BF3 has quite a lot of real game innovations, the fact that you list "innovative theatres" as an innovation is a bit funny. Im not going to list all the innovations in BF3, you know them already. At least what dice revealed or what you saw in the beta
-mod and map support so you have tons of fun with it even years after you´ve bought the vanilla game (what would the BF franchise be without mods?);
It would be
just as fine a franchise as it is now. In case you wonder, only 3 years of the 10 years of Battlefield have had "mod support". Only 3 games out of 8 (PC games) had mod support
shocking news? BF franchise isnt a "moddable" gaming franchise, only bf42, BFV and BF2 were. The last Mod tool was released in 2005... 6 years ago.. still people think that that's a core BF thing?
-easy and fun game mechanics (you play with what you have and don´t have to bother with extra crap such as shiny "medals", virtual "ranks", tons of weapon unlocks that make game goals unimportant because in the end only your virtual rank and the tons of shit you´ve unlocked for your guns and vehicles count);
OK, now you forgot what to write. What does "easy and fun game mechanics" have to do with the persistence system?
Game mechanics is what you do ingame lik running, driving, shooting, the game mode etc.. persistence is the meta system, which DICE now integrated in to a social platform as welll. DICE is very nice towards their players, because players
want persistence in their games today, so they went the extra mile and created the richest system made.
Listen to the producers themselves, why they gave you this system:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC7EHaJZtMQ-balance (hardcore grinders seem to have an advantage over the casual player, for example in vehicles);
Name a game where grinders
don't get an advantage? Especially explain how people can grind without also develop skill & knowledge, and how those are not advantages in other games, and why they shouldnt be
-no extra "social" platforms that promote e-penis comparisons even more";
So you are asking people in the year of 2011 if they'd prefer a game without leaderboards and social platforms? "ok"
no comment.. just.. wow
I guess you wonder if people want the game to be
just the game? you play it, close it, and nothing gets stored anywhere. The only value, is what happens hear & now when you play? Or how did you see this game? this "pure" game of yours, without social platforms? And if you watched the persistence system explanation video I posted ^ also explain why the game would be better without all the new ways for players to interact with eachother and join eachother, as that's going to make things like clan-wars and tournaments easier. don't you... want players to play together with friends? Or is it best that we do it like in 2005, we install 3rd party VoIP systems and send eachother the IP numbers to what server to join?
-no extra online platform with highly dubios EULAs (users agree not to take part in class-action lawsuits against EA (speaks for itself); Origin is allowed to scan your whole computer, what hardware you use, what software you have installed, what software you deinstalled etc. and even sell your data so they can make even more profit with it by using it for advertisements);
Tinfoil hat crew will agree with you, the rest will just lol and say "get over it"
Let me give you an example: You ever been to a vacation in another country? Well, if you go, by plane, you need to go through airport security, this can be a tough experience (if you're paranoid), you need to remove your belt, empty your pocket, they X-ray your bags, you need to go through metaldetector etc..
All this, is a price you pay to be able to fly plane to Bahamas, Mallorca, Asia or South america.
you can choose to stay home, but then you're missing out on the sun and beaches. Same thing here; You need to install Origin to "fly" to BF3. Look at it as the travel-agency, airport and airline, all wrapped up in one. The actual resort is the game, all the rest is the platforms that take you there.
There´s a reason why every official BF3-FB post has tons of complaints
that is because fans of computer games dont bother with positive feedback
if they dont have anything negative to say, they dont say anything. And how big percentage of the total playerbase are making negative FB comments? id say 0.001% (guys like you)
and a good number of Battlefield "vets" in different BF communities canceled their preorders or are even highly sceptical of what DICE/EA will present us.
You're so transparent it's almost cute
You've read in a bunch of other BF forums, and you've picked up a few comments which you can use as argument as people being "sceptical".... this is bonafide forum trolling what you're doing. I can go to any BF forum and pick up negative comments, it's easy.. there are always some who dont like a game. When you read these comments here and there, do you believe that they are a good representation of the
overall player opinion, or do you believe that it's just
them, a couple of dudes on some forum? Im overly excited in what you will answer on this.
How many are we talking btw? 20?.. 40?... Sad that the so-called "vets" dont bother more with reading up on what the game actually intendes to deliver, and instead just blindly head in to it, expecting it to be
exactly as "they" imagined it. (these "vets" are probably the same people making those funny lists in the BF3 forum) If they were open to new designs and innovations, they'd have a much greater experience