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Re: Low Caliber Flak Issues
« Reply #15 on: 31-12-2012, 03:12:06 »
bullshit

FW190 is the most powerfull plane in this game
infact the FW190 shouldnt be present at ALL

No way removing another aircraft from the allies...
stop talking bs pls. once again play the game or stop posting here if u don't know shit.

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Re: Low Caliber Flak Issues
« Reply #16 on: 31-12-2012, 09:12:31 »
FW is the best fighter in the game? What are you smoking man?

Mustang is way too overpowered. Even Spitfire chews up FW now. You need a Bf109-G to match that.

I wonder how the hell Germans gonna destroy T-34s when Russian campaign comes, if we keep using this anglemod.  ;D
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Re: Low Caliber Flak Issues
« Reply #17 on: 31-12-2012, 10:12:36 »
I have to agree with the above, the FW190 is not the best fighter plane. It is good but the P51 is better in my opinion.
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Re: Low Caliber Flak Issues
« Reply #18 on: 31-12-2012, 13:12:07 »
Thank you for your answers. Also the 20mm Quad fires so fast, I can´t hit anything with it. ^^
And some Flak 88 only have 6 HE time fuse shells (for example the one on the uncappable german base on Cobra). I think some buff to Flak would be appropriate to prevent the air raping on Cobra.
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Re: Low Caliber Flak Issues
« Reply #19 on: 31-12-2012, 15:12:37 »
The 88 with shield, which are supposed to be mainly used as AT gun have only 6 time fuse shells I think. The ones without shield should have around 50 shells though, as they are usually supposed to be AA and AT gun at the same time.

Giving the AT ones more time fuse shells would be a minor buff, but as enemy airplanes' average altitude is right where you can't see anything becauseof the shield, it will probably not do much.

I suggest to replace that AT-88 on Cobra main base and the one at the airfield as well with one without shield and those 50 time fuse shells, as you usually don't see any tanks with them anyway, and with the removal of the shield you still can shoot tanks as well. Furthermore real AA- 88's close to airfields make sense anyway and might help balancing the issues of Cobra.
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Re: Low Caliber Flak Issues
« Reply #20 on: 31-12-2012, 15:12:25 »
FW is the best fighter in the game? What are you smoking man?

Mustang is way too overpowered. Even Spitfire chews up FW now. You need a Bf109-G to match that.

I wonder how the hell Germans gonna destroy T-34s when Russian campaign comes, if we keep using this anglemod.  ;D
FW190 was OP from version 2.2. Suits it right that it is now more realistic in performance
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Re: Low Caliber Flak Issues
« Reply #21 on: 31-12-2012, 16:12:00 »
If it was realistic performance, the MG on Mustang would be less powerful then the cannon on FW. However since many shots either bounce off or simply dont register and get lost on the way to the server, the MGs on Spit and Mustang with their high rate of fire are much more effective.
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Re: Low Caliber Flak Issues
« Reply #22 on: 31-12-2012, 16:12:32 »
bullshit

FW190 is the most powerfull plane in this game
infact the FW190 shouldnt be present at ALL

No way removing another aircraft from the allies...
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And remove the angle mod on plane plz, that thing is for tank, not for plane. Now the hardest position to shoot down a plane is on its direct six, every bullet you shoot will "bounce off" because the place you hit can only be highly sloped.

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Re: Low Caliber Flak Issues
« Reply #23 on: 31-12-2012, 18:12:50 »
Wait a minnit, the Mc 202 only shoots bullets not low caliber shells. How do they bounce?

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Re: Low Caliber Flak Issues
« Reply #24 on: 31-12-2012, 18:12:43 »
I have had many airfights in fw vs p51 and when the p51 pilot is good you always loose both on low and high allitude if you don't kill it in the first run.
Maybe change the p51 with bombs to be less manoeuvrable or atleast one more sdkfz 7 so germans have better chance.

About the 20mm I noticed since 2.45 the accurarity got decreased because you don't hit the exact point anymore then where you aim in 2.4, so I think this is the largest problem of the 20mm.

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Re: Low Caliber Flak Issues
« Reply #25 on: 31-12-2012, 19:12:33 »
I was so pissed when I realized that the german 2cm Flak mounted on trucks on El Alamein were replaced with Breda model 35. The italian Breda is the worst. Chances are higher to drown an allied airplane by dancing in circles while praying for the pilots death.

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Re: Low Caliber Flak Issues
« Reply #26 on: 31-12-2012, 22:12:35 »
The 88 with shield, which are supposed to be mainly used as AT gun have only 6 time fuse shells I think. The ones without shield should have around 50 shells though, as they are usually supposed to be AA and AT gun at the same time.

Giving the AT ones more time fuse shells would be a minor buff, but as enemy airplanes' average altitude is right where you can't see anything becauseof the shield, it will probably not do much.

I suggest to replace that AT-88 on Cobra main base and the one at the airfield as well with one without shield and those 50 time fuse shells, as you usually don't see any tanks with them anyway, and with the removal of the shield you still can shoot tanks as well. Furthermore real AA- 88's close to airfields make sense anyway and might help balancing the issues of Cobra.

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I like changes done to the new version of Cobra (more vegetation,  new flag, etc.), but unfortunately, the map is now unbalanced because axis have no way to defend them self against planes.   88 with shield cannot be use effectively as AA and low caliber flak are underpowered since 2.45.   I also think most pak should be "moveable" instead of static.  Pilots know where static pak positions are and always take them quickly at round start.

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Re: Low Caliber Flak Issues
« Reply #27 on: 02-01-2013, 10:01:26 »
The AT-88s are not powerfull enough to kill a Sherman frontally atm. Their shield makes up a great target for the HE-Shell of the Sherman though and you get instakilled, even if you fired the first shot. The only thing the shield can protect you off are gunshots that usually dont hit you on the great distances on Cobra.
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Re: Low Caliber Flak Issues
« Reply #28 on: 02-01-2013, 14:01:01 »
I think the FlaKs placed as AT guns ought to be replaced by PaK 43s (or 43/41s) as they are more powerful, have a smaller silhouette and I think they were relatively common by Cobra. (correct me if I'm mistaken)

And/Or, even though I've never even seen a real life FlaK 18/36/37, let alone check one out (the closest I got to an air-defence gun was when I could sit in an 57 mm S-60 mount and control the horizontal axis of the gun for the lolz at an Air Show a couple years back), but did the real gun shield really obstruct the sight of the FlaK?
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Re: Low Caliber Flak Issues
« Reply #29 on: 02-01-2013, 19:01:42 »
The only FlaK i walked around was without the shield, but I don't think it bothered the crew much as it was operated by 8 people who could look around and the optics looked through the hole in the shield so it was ok.

For AA duties I think they removed the shield, or aimed approximately, after all it was what the AA guns did.
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