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Re: What's Your Ugliest and Most Beautiful Tank of WW2?
« Reply #300 on: 21-02-2010, 01:02:42 »
VOn MUDRA!  Come educate this man on the Maginot Line!

Watched that mini series Apocalipsis - WW2; some general misplaced their trust in the Maginot Line, and one; I dont remember his name warned that it wouldnt hold and it wasnt exactly secure. Germans also parachuted behind it, and started to destroy the heavy howitzers and other defences. Other than that, I dont know more about the line.

Nope, that was Epen Emil.

For starters, the French placed their best troops and armoured divisions on the Belgian Border, and moved rapidly to meet the German forces advancing through Belgium.  Meanwhile, the Army Group C of the german army, fully 1/3 of their attack force (B attacked Holland, A attacked Belgium and France), attacked the Maginot Line.  Yes, the germans didn't do this magic single thrust through the Ardennes.  They actually attacked, with a full army group, against the Maginot Line.  And were slaughtered.  I mean absolutely butchered.  By the end of the war, the entire line was holding out, despite being completely surrounded.  French diplomats had to go in to tell them the war was over.

The french lost because of poor high command structure that ordered retreats at battles like Glemboux Gap when victory was nearly assured (post war, several german generals admitted that if the french had simply kept up the attack instead of pulling back at Glemboux, they would have cut off and annihilated the german attack).  In the end, the Maginot Line did its job, it vectored the Germans around it, as they failed to penetrate it.  It forced them into Flander's fields, where the French had wanted them to go.  The fact that the french then failed to make use of this advantage, and instead through extreme caution and poor use of their divisions by the HQ, was not because of the Maginot Line.  It served its purpose fully.  The French had more tanks and superior tanks to anything the Germans had.  Their HQ just couldn't run the war.

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Re: What's Your Ugliest and Most Beautiful Tank of WW2?
« Reply #301 on: 21-02-2010, 10:02:38 »
Laffey, what tanks do you like?
What tanks i think are the sexiest?
Panther
Crusader(early ones)
M18
M26
PzII Luchs

What tank I like
Sherman Firefly
Panther
M18
M26
Basically anything that has a big gun except slow beasts like the Tiger and the KT
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Re: What's Your Ugliest and Most Beautiful Tank of WW2?
« Reply #302 on: 21-02-2010, 10:02:38 »
M18 had same gun as the M10 and later model shermans...the M36 is the one with the big 90mm ;)

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Re: What's Your Ugliest and Most Beautiful Tank of WW2?
« Reply #303 on: 21-02-2010, 10:02:13 »
No they had a different gun albeit they had similar penetration
M10 had a M7 76 mm
M18 had a M1A1 76mm
M18s gun penetration was a couple of mm higher
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Re: What's Your Ugliest and Most Beautiful Tank of WW2?
« Reply #304 on: 21-02-2010, 10:02:33 »
I was under the impression that the 76mm gun of the m18 was different from the 76mm gun of the M10; namel, the m10 was an adapted AA gun and the m18 was a dedicated AT gun.
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Re: What's Your Ugliest and Most Beautiful Tank of WW2?
« Reply #305 on: 21-02-2010, 10:02:23 »
Anything with a big gun? Char b1 Bis got a big gun.
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Re: What's Your Ugliest and Most Beautiful Tank of WW2?
« Reply #306 on: 21-02-2010, 10:02:48 »
yes but that is what i Like
That means performance
Not looks
And I was under the impression that the 75mm on the Char was a howitzer designed for close support although im in no doubt that it could knock out a german tank at close range
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Re: What's Your Ugliest and Most Beautiful Tank of WW2?
« Reply #307 on: 21-02-2010, 16:02:00 »
yes but that is what i Like
That means performance
Not looks


Im in the same boat; I prefer performance over looks. Thats why I prefer the Jagdpanther over many tanks.

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Re: What's Your Ugliest and Most Beautiful Tank of WW2?
« Reply #308 on: 21-02-2010, 16:02:39 »
yes but that is what i Like
That means performance
Not looks


Im in the same boat; I prefer performance over looks. Thats why I prefer the Jagdpanther over many tanks.
But that's not what this thread is about

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Re: What's Your Ugliest and Most Beautiful Tank of WW2?
« Reply #309 on: 21-02-2010, 16:02:02 »
But that's not what this thread is about

I just was sharing an opinion. I think I have already stablished my point of the most fugly and most beautiful tanks many times on this thread.

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Re: What's Your Ugliest and Most Beautiful Tank of WW2?
« Reply #310 on: 21-02-2010, 16:02:19 »
yes but that is what i Like
That means performance
Not looks


Im in the same boat; I prefer performance over looks. Thats why I prefer the Jagdpanther over many tanks.
But that's not what this thread is about

Well it isnt my fault when i said that French tanks looks fugly everybody said French tanks PwNz0rZ German tanks. They are so much more superior etc lets get back on topic

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Re: What's Your Ugliest and Most Beautiful Tank of WW2?
« Reply #311 on: 21-02-2010, 16:02:03 »
They PwNz0rZ them look-wise, as well.

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Re: What's Your Ugliest and Most Beautiful Tank of WW2?
« Reply #312 on: 21-02-2010, 16:02:03 »
They PwNz0rZ them look-wise, as well.
not really. German tanks looked better at tht point

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Re: What's Your Ugliest and Most Beautiful Tank of WW2?
« Reply #313 on: 21-02-2010, 16:02:10 »
Most Beautiful is T-50, no doupt.


Can't say anything about ugliest  ???.

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Re: What's Your Ugliest and Most Beautiful Tank of WW2?
« Reply #314 on: 21-02-2010, 16:02:06 »
Good lookin' tank.  Really I like anything that isn't too heavy.