Enough with your damn nationalism of the past... German lost the war... there tank, there weapons was not enough great against allied stuff. Yeah right they made some stuff really badass like panther... but one thing we can learn about war is technology will not give victory...
And your grandaddy was a in an SS divison... they were son of a who help hitler evil plan. Damned revisionnist...
PS: Sorry, I don't want to change the subject of this topic.
Oh so we retort to this type of problems around here. So? My grand father was just a MG42 machine gunner that fought in the Eastern Front, the Ardennes and in so more parts of Europe. Did he help Hitler's evil plans? No...Did he commit war crimes? No...he was just a soldier doing his duty for his coutry. Just to making that clear; my earlier comment was just a joke.
You can continue with the topic now.
OffT:
Joining the ss das reich isn't a meaningless choice(except for the forced enlist)
Waffen SS aren't soldier, they are milician of the nsdap.
You don't need to have your nsdap card but you fought for the ideology. You joined in by opportunism or by ideology.
He didn't commit war crimes but he did help or was nazi.
In time of peace, the waffen ss role was to crush any german/occupied people revolt(not all the german was nazi and this is the reason why the power need waffen ss as super policemen to crush revolt, things police can't do ) or army revolt.
In time of war, the waffen ss fought
for the army (they weren't in the army), borrowed by the nsdap.
Sure, the army was pro-nazi (ss prefered the army compared to the waffenss ...) and has commited crimes, but it was 12 millions of enlist men (or 18 i don't remember, but with that number you can easily found criminal in it) compared to 400 000 german volunteers (i don't remember the exact number or german native) + nazi foreign nationalists craps fighting for the nsdap first.
I certainly can't reduce this very complex subject in 3 paragraphs, but what is sure is that the waffen ss aren't "soldier" like the other and weren't fighting for their "vaterland". This crappy idea is an other great idea of the post war nazi to give them a new virginity.
Perhaps alakazou shouldn't have been so picky. But your answer smells bad imo.
PS: oh yeah i'm a little bit off, but let's say that after what i experience at filefront forum, i'm taking this subject seriously.
OnT:
the ugliest:
any rushed tank like the arl44
the most beautifull:
perhaps the amd201 because of his modern design