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UC Davis protests cleared up
« on: 05-12-2011, 20:12:30 »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhPdH3wE0_Y&feature=share

Watch this video, now you can have an unbiased version of the full events. The students were in fault.
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Re: UC Davis protests cleared up
« Reply #1 on: 05-12-2011, 20:12:16 »
Reminds me of the Palestinans who posted a video of a isreali trying to murder a palistan kid by running him over with his subaru car

In reality, when the full video was shown, Palestinans had the car surrounded, trowing rocks at it and closing in to take them out of the car, probaly beating them up, man panicked and drove away to save his kids. And ye the kid got hitted
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Re: UC Davis protests cleared up
« Reply #2 on: 05-12-2011, 20:12:42 »
Meh, still doesn't change the facts they are sitting there and yelling, where the cops have full riot gear and are in no danger...

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Re: UC Davis protests cleared up
« Reply #3 on: 05-12-2011, 20:12:52 »
Meh, still doesn't change the facts they are sitting there and yelling, where the cops have full riot gear and are in no danger...
Doesnt matter, the guy who made this video has pretty much stated the facts. People say "you dont have to do this". They do, its there job. This has nothing to do with "peacefull" protests against wallstreet anymore. You can see the motive clearly when they all start with=Fuck the police
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Re: UC Davis protests cleared up
« Reply #4 on: 05-12-2011, 21:12:16 »
Reminds me of the Palestinans who posted a video of a isreali trying to murder a palistan kid by running him over with his subaru car

In reality, when the full video was shown, Palestinans had the car surrounded, trowing rocks at it and closing in to take them out of the car, probaly beating them up, man panicked and drove away to save his kids. And ye the kid got hitted

Or another Video where Greek Riot police is seen attacking the rioters for no reason...Well the top part has been cut and at the full version you can actually see a guy from the riot attacking with a huge wooden plank the officers first....

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Re: UC Davis protests cleared up
« Reply #5 on: 05-12-2011, 21:12:11 »
Reminds me of the Palestinans who posted a video of a isreali trying to murder a palistan kid by running him over with his subaru car

In reality, when the full video was shown, Palestinans had the car surrounded, trowing rocks at it and closing in to take them out of the car, probaly beating them up, man panicked and drove away to save his kids. And ye the kid got hitted

Or another Video where Greek Riot police is seen attacking the rioters for no reason...Well the top part has been cut and at the full version you can actually see a guy from the riot attacking with a huge wooden plank the officers first....
yep good one.

Sorry but i do not feel pity for these hipsters. This issent protesting, this is Actuall Rioting.
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Re: UC Davis protests cleared up
« Reply #6 on: 05-12-2011, 21:12:55 »
Maybe, but i do not really see them doing much wrong other then shouting bad things. They still just sat there and did not seem to use any form of physical violence.

Here 2 police officers would just grab you, lift you and move you. Till a passage is free. At worst you would be arrested a few hours for this.

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Re: UC Davis protests cleared up
« Reply #7 on: 05-12-2011, 21:12:27 »
These students look quite like tools..."don´t shoot students", yeah right, like the police officers would simply open fire...perfect attitude...

Resisting police officers actively and passively is (atleast in Germany and I guess in most other countries, too) a crime, so blocking the police off is not a good idea.

After watching the video the police looks a bit helpless and overstrained to me. Their gear can´t really be called "riot gear" (you should see German anti-riot police officers) and their numbers seem far too low compared to the number of protestors. Getting encircled is pretty dangerous and resulted in the escalation of force we´ve seen.
Pepper-spraying a group of people who blockade an area is usually too much and usually people doing this would be carried away, but I guess the police saw no other chance to evade that tricky situation. Carrying off those who blocked the way would´ve probably been almost impossible because of the low number of police officers and them being "inside the mob".
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Re: UC Davis protests cleared up
« Reply #8 on: 06-12-2011, 17:12:53 »
Jealous people seeking demands by making threats. It is like "peacefully" taking the police hostage. They can easily use their paintball guns and batons to clear the path. But they don't.

So much for being intellect and studying in University. If I want to negotiate, I will use my brain. For example, we have been collectively boycotted American products until they rationalise their ambition here. No longer local franchise operators are being pushed to achieve unimaginable targets like opening 1,000 outlets in a year. Then we weeded out greedy software giants from educational institutions by making students and academicians agree to not use non-open source software in campus. After 5 years, now we always got 50% student discount whenever we buy something from them. As a payback, we agree to enforce the piracy law.

Taking cops as hostages is useless.
Cops are paid with your tax money, they bring home shitty amount of money, let alone doing a lot of dangerous stunts that many refused to (like flipping burgers, instead, taking a student loan that they don't have a plan how to pay it back with and hoping to secure a job like pushing papers and get paid big). Simply put: they just got too much shit to take care of. Another whiny able-bodied teens are nothing compared to pregnant young moms being held by armed robbers situation.

The use of pepper spray in the other hand, is a bit too much IMO. It hurts people, but apparently their threatening gesture of shaking the pepper spray can isn't taken seriously.

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Re: UC Davis protests cleared up
« Reply #9 on: 06-12-2011, 17:12:04 »
Pepperspray is terrible. But yeah, i think they got warned enough
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Re: UC Davis protests cleared up
« Reply #10 on: 07-12-2011, 01:12:18 »
Maybe, but i do not really see them doing much wrong other then shouting bad things. They still just sat there and did not seem to use any form of physical violence.

Here 2 police officers would just grab you, lift you and move you. Till a passage is free. At worst you would be arrested a few hours for this.

This. At least that is common sense in my corner of the world.

After watching the video the police looks a bit helpless and overstrained to me. Their gear can´t really be called "riot gear" (you should see German anti-riot police officers) and their numbers seem far too low compared to the number of protestors.

This also. Policemen get outnumbered and compensate with violence where they should have called for backup. But Mr. Pepperspray is lazyass and wants to take all credit for a successful operation.

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Re: UC Davis protests cleared up
« Reply #11 on: 07-12-2011, 02:12:22 »
7:50 is a clear warning that force would be used, not even mentioning all the previous warnings. They all had it coming, you never sorround Police like that or else... well you see the results :P God you Americans kill me sometimes ;D
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Re: UC Davis protests cleared up
« Reply #12 on: 07-12-2011, 02:12:15 »
Why is anyone even surprised that this is what really happened?

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Re: UC Davis protests cleared up
« Reply #13 on: 07-12-2011, 17:12:15 »
7:50 is a clear warning that force would be used, not even mentioning all the previous warnings. They all had it coming, you never sorround Police like that or else... well you see the results :P God you Americans kill me sometimes ;D

The use of pepper spray man! Mudra even said that one of them coughed blood as a result.

Even though the students behaved like assholes, you never hurt them like that. That's someone's brother or sister, and their medical bills won't come cheap. They may not have enough common sense to just listen and think about how tired the policemen are, being forced to stand in there for hours. But, the use of pepper spray is excessive IMO.

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Re: UC Davis protests cleared up
« Reply #14 on: 07-12-2011, 18:12:16 »
7:50 is a clear warning that force would be used, not even mentioning all the previous warnings. They all had it coming, you never sorround Police like that or else... well you see the results :P God you Americans kill me sometimes ;D

The use of pepper spray man! Mudra even said that one of them coughed blood as a result.

Even though the students behaved like assholes, you never hurt them like that. That's someone's brother or sister, and their medical bills won't come cheap. They may not have enough common sense to just listen and think about how tired the policemen are, being forced to stand in there for hours. But, the use of pepper spray is excessive IMO.

If they're students, they should know better, these are grown ass people you know :) Here we use pepper spray and if that doesn't work and people won't move, you bring in a big water cannon on an APC and it just pushes them out of the way for you :P
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