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Offline Lonewolf051

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Owen gun for Aussies and NZ?
« on: 07-08-2020, 20:08:52 »
Im surprised it hasnt been included yet, Aussies in a WWII title are rare enough as it is, and the Owen gun being so iconic to the Australian infantryman during the war. Is there a reason its not in the game yet?
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Re: Owen gun for Aussies and NZ?
« Reply #1 on: 07-08-2020, 20:08:22 »
Owen guns were not used in North Africa or Greece to my knowledge.

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Re: Owen gun for Aussies and NZ?
« Reply #2 on: 07-08-2020, 20:08:27 »
hmmm, well they were standard issue to Aussie troops, so theres bound to be a few wherever they went.

anyone to lend some evidence?
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Re: Owen gun for Aussies and NZ?
« Reply #3 on: 07-08-2020, 20:08:40 »
Well none of the maps we have australians on take place in 1942, and the gun was adopted in 1942. Operation Hyacinth is the only 1942 map that has New Zealand troops on, I highly doubt the LRDG would have received them tho.

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Re: Owen gun for Aussies and NZ?
« Reply #4 on: 07-08-2020, 20:08:08 »
would be nice having the Aussies in later maps like Italy 43-44
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Re: Owen gun for Aussies and NZ?
« Reply #5 on: 07-08-2020, 21:08:24 »
I assume you mean on Pacific maps? since there's been some that have popped up on CMP in the past. Afaik, the Owen gun was really only used by the Australians in that theater.

I think some of the CMP guys have ideas about making ANZAC maps in the Pacific, but none in the pipeline at the moment. Tho if we get some New Guinea maps in the future, the Owen gun is a must-have. :)

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Re: Owen gun for Aussies and NZ?
« Reply #6 on: 08-08-2020, 00:08:49 »
Hmmm, what we need is a Kokoda Map! One day..... :)

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Re: Owen gun for Aussies and NZ?
« Reply #7 on: 09-08-2020, 17:08:22 »
Only on Pacific maps, for sure! Papua and Solomons.

An issue with the Owen is its cartridge, 9mm. As it happened with the Sten, the British didn't issued these weapons to the Mediterranean based on a logistics problem. They simplified their logistic chain in this theatre by using only one type of SMG cartridge, the .45 ACP.

But if someone is interested in making a landing on Bougainville map, it would be a nice choice for a SMG!  8) 8) 8)

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Re: Owen gun for Aussies and NZ?
« Reply #8 on: 10-08-2020, 01:08:22 »
The Owen gun was a remarkable weapon. But not as well know as the sten or others.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_gun

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Re: Owen gun for Aussies and NZ?
« Reply #9 on: 13-08-2020, 17:08:25 »
Owen would be great, but again, issue is it was only used in the Pacific theater.  Forgotten Hope 2 will likely never make it to the Pacific sadly, since development is pretty slow nowadays and the game is pretty old. ;P

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Re: Owen gun for Aussies and NZ?
« Reply #10 on: 15-08-2020, 08:08:33 »
Owen would be great, but again, issue is it was only used in the Pacific theater.  Forgotten Hope 2 will likely never make it to the Pacific sadly, since development is pretty slow nowadays and the game is pretty old. ;P
that's pretty pessimistic! you need to visit our internal inner circle more often I think ;) (but yeah, Pacific theatre is a CMP thing, not part of our official development)

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Re: Owen gun for Aussies and NZ?
« Reply #11 on: 15-08-2020, 18:08:29 »
Yeah, I should go browse through our internal discord more.  I'd love to return to researching and betatesting and stuff, but life has been a gigantic mess the past year and is only continuing to be so.  :-\