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Off-Topic => Gaming => Topic started by: Ciupita on 15-05-2009, 17:05:41
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yeah, this magnificent strategy series for PC, for REAL armchairgenerals.
I know that here is a lot of players of those games. Maybe we could organize big multiplayer game some time?
All discussion related to HoI series here :)
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I'm such a nightmare with this game that I don't even dare to show my face on multiplayer. I always manage to make the wrong decisions.
I did manage to push the Allied forces back in the sea at Overlord.
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I have not played any HoI games, but I'm most certainly going to test HoI III.
*waits for Lightning to post some HoI III hype*
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*waits for Lightning to post some HoI III hype*
*waits for Lightning to whine about the geographical borders of the countries*
^^
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Yeah, the HoI3 map sucks. I don't think I'll get it.
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I've played HoI 1 and 2 and loved them both, but I the game doesn't do multiplayer very well. I tried playing with my friend a while back and the inability to pause the game made me just get overwhelmed.
Hopefully the new one will have better AI too since the current version doesn't respond as well as they should sometimes, though I've heard mods improve this.
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I played 2, and I dunno, its just too complex for me, I like the Total War series better, its similar, but simpler
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I love this game.
Alot.
I wanna play HoI3 now, you can do almost everything. You can set goverments in exile... too much awesomeness!
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Every semester break I make a HOI II LAN-party with two friends from university. During the two or three days we play it, we listen to musik from the WW2 period and everybody babbles only in propaganda slogans to emphasize the glory of the nation he is playing. ::)
This is always a lot of fun.
I am very excited how Hoi III will be. I will definatly play it.
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Hoi2 MP always bugged me with synchronization errors... Hey look, my troops are gathering! Where? There, they will arrive on the 15. march! Lol wow, they take 2 months to get to the next province.. No, it's the 14. march.. for me.. what day is it in your ga........ oh.
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You gotta love this.
HoI3
(http://www.gamersgate.com/eu3/hoi3/beta_may20_9.jpg)
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I've played HoI2 few times and it looked awesome. I'm going to definitely get the third one (although knowing how these guys' games are really complete only after several patches and expansions maybe I just entertain myself with EUIII until HoI3 is really ready in a few years after its release :P).
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Man, I remember back when I was in the Army
One guy in squad next door kept talking about HoI all the friggin' time
I wanna try it out but I think he will find out and make me quit my job and play it online with him for the rest of my life
Anyhow, if you complare CIV and HoI. How much heavier is HoI? Is it true that I gotta read a manual as the size of the holy bible and then play test rounds for 2 - 3 weeks and then give it a go?
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Anyhow, if you complare CIV and HoI. How much heavier is HoI? Is it true that I gotta read a manual as the size of the holy bible and then play test rounds for 2 - 3 weeks and then give it a go?
The game is a good deal more complex than Civ4, but if you play as a large resource rich country that focuses mostly on ground forces like Germany or the USSR it's straightforward enough that you can pretty much jump right into a game(the fact that if you start in 1936 you get a while to familiarize with the game before combat starts helps too).
That being said I've been playing it since HoI 1 was around and I still don't fully understand how naval combat works :-\
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MEN OF WAR 2 > HoI2/3
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MEN OF WAR 2 > HoI2/3
You cant compare these games, and ur wrong.
pew pew pew
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MEN OF WAR 2 > HoI2/3
You cant compare these games, and ur wrong.
pew pew pew
If you take time and fun then Mow is better, If you take realistic then Hoi wins.
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Fortress Argentina FTW!!!
lol...above is my next challenge in HoI2 :D
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What do you think about HOI 3 ?
I have only played with Italy from 36 to 44 at medium difficulty. I later regretted that I did not choose hard. It was kind of boring because the soviets draged me into their political corner so i could not join the axis. Germany refused to declare war uppon the soviets and nothing really happened after I had taken the usual weak countries in the mediterainian area. I tried to blitz the SU on my own but after I adwanced one province they had brought their tanks from the german border down to me (romanian border) and pushed me back with an enourmous superiority. My megalomania brought me defeat ::). But there was nothing else I could do as the Brits had already sunk 80% of my fleet and the industry and research was too weak to build a new one.
What made a bad impression on me was that HOI 3 is very slow and I am not sure how to use the AI with all the HQs with best efficiency. Controlling all the brigades with hand needs too much micro management with so many units and provinces. I ended up leaving the Corps HQs to AI and gave them very close provinces as target
What I really like is the new supply system and that you need to take a big harbor if you want do a successful amphibious landing. When I started I needed almost a year to take Ethiopia because my troops where always out of supplys and I could not advance until I withdraw some of them from the frontlines and used the transport planes to help supply the rest.
I don't really know what to think about the new diplomathy and research system. I left diplomathy more or less to AI and only increased the threat of the countries I wanted to invade (Jugoslavia, Bulgaria, Greece, Romania, Turkey, Iraq, France, Spain). I had the impression that my research progress was slower than in HOI 3 but maybe I didn't do it very effective.
What are your experiences? How do you manage all your troops?
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(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af343/Ciupita/Hearts%20of%20Iron/polandwar.png)
Wielkopolska war against Soviet Union. War started in January 1944, after Poland and Western Allies crushed whole Eastern Europe. Yea, I'm using "norevolt" cheat, so no need to be afraid of partisans (I hate it -.-)
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I had 2 awesome games as Nat China on HoI3
In the first one, i was fighting a heavy battle in a city of Northen China, a big port, a precius Sweet Spot for the jappies. I sent my only Air Attack Squadron, with Old Tupolevs (Maybe airplanes from 20's who knows..) to attack the Invasion Force. But the goddamn jap carrier had tons of Ki's and i had to retreat.
But when i selected the air unit, i dindt realized i selected the entire army, i retreated, lost the province, and *Rage quit" :P
the nthe save was corrupted.
In my second one me and Shanxi were kiciking some jap and manchukuo ass and the save, corrupted again.
I even managed to cut off 2 Japanese divisions near the Mongolian Border!
Then i noticed Hainan was invaded by the jappies and send my last reserves there.
I also bought 3 series of Pz IV :P
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Continued my Canada game in HoI 3. Date is now February 1941 and Germany controls Europe. I'm slowly building my expeditionary force. Soon I'll head to southern England and from there to Berlin >:)
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Well, I played quite a lot of HoI2, mostly the alternate history campaigns. HoI3 had terrible performance at release, so much lag for a mostly 2d interface....
The reason I liked the alternate ones was because it was actually fun and gave some freedom, the main campaigns are likely reading through a story that you exactly how it ends. THere was such little freedom to really do anything other than re-live history to the exact details I just found it really boring.
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I am currently playing HoI2 with one of my friends...really nice game. I love the strategy, and despise partisans.
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Ok,it's about Hearts of Iron 3.
I've bought it when I was in Berlin (Because it was just releasted!!) and the problem is that it's on German.
German language isn't too difficult but it's just a pain in the ass with all those complicated political terms.
So if any one knows how to change it to English, PLEASE HELP ;)
I'm a big HoI fan ;D
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Ok,it's about Hearts of Iron 3.
I've bought it when I was in Berlin (Because it was just releasted!!) and the problem is that it's on German.
German language isn't too difficult but it's just a pain in the ass with all those complicated political terms.
So if any one knows how to change it to English, PLEASE HELP ;)
I'm a big HoI fan ;D
Merge,
added this to an existing HoI thread.
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never got my head around how to play the damn thing. The tutorial made it worse.
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This game(s) goes to same category with civilizations. Too damn boring.
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You two Suck
HOI is the 1337
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Hey let's help this guy:
Ok,it's about Hearts of Iron 3.
I've bought it when I was in Berlin (Because it was just releasted!!) and the problem is that it's on German.
German language isn't too difficult but it's just a pain in the ass with all those complicated political terms.
So if any one knows how to change it to English, PLEASE HELP ;)
I'm a big HoI fan ;D
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Played but I cant enjoy a game where I dont see the action. I dont want the probabilities of a computer sets who wins and who loses or what factors count it. Because there's always those battles won with fewer men and resource with a cunning and a great tactical position and a well thought for strategy. Thats why I enjoy Men of War more; it has crappy graphics, but hell it is a better game just in gameplay wise, the voice acting still sucks and it doesnt have skirmish mode.
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Doesn't the game have a language setting somewhere? Try searching through the game folder for any .cfg or config or some such file, open it, see if it says german or deutsch anywhere.
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Well, it's like this.
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Go to your Mainfolder, open settings.txt and edit the language settings to:
gui=
{
language=l_english
}
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I've modified it but it still starts in German
It looks like this now:
gui={
language=l_english
}
graphics={
size={
x=1024
y=768
}
refreshRate=60
fullScreen=yes
shadows=no
shadowSize=1024
multisampling=2
anisotropicFiltering=0
gamma=50.000000
}
sound_fx_volume=78.000000
music_volume=47.000000
scroll_speed=100.000000
camera_rotation_speed=50.000000
zoom_speed=50.000000
mouse_speed=50.000000
master_volume=100.000000
ambient_volume=50.000000
mapRenderingOptions={
renderTrees=yes
onmap=yes
simpleWater=no
alwaysCounters=no
}
lastplayer="Spieler"
lasthost="192.168.0.211"
serveradress="diplomacy.valkyrienet.com"
autosave="YEARLY"
simple=no
categories={
1 1 1 1 1 1 }
outliner={
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 }
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My settings.txt looks the same and my game is in english. :( Maybe it's a problem with your OS that your changes to the settings.txt have not been applied by the game? I don't know, because my gaming pc is still running with XP. :-\
Did you try starting the game as an admin?
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IT WORKS!
How didn't I think of that earlier ::)
Thanks for the help.
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played a lot HoI II with a friend on lan, mostley Italy Germany ,
It was just satisfying to see my victorious Italian troops taking Africa and advancing at the ost front. Sometimes we “destroyed” the game by doing things that interrupted this heavy triggered game. We never finished a campaign, we just played to the point where it was obvious that we are going to win the war within the next three years….
So, never made an Invasion on the Beaches of Florida, but once we took some parts south America, great operation base to zero US Fleet activities, helping to Japs AI who managed to nearly screw it always up …. Once the US invaded the main Island of Japan in mid 1943 !!!!!
So, who is the new HoI? Better than HoI II ?
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played a lot HoI II with a friend on lan, mostley Italy Germany ,
It was just satisfying to see my victorious Italian troops taking Africa and advancing at the ost front. Sometimes we “destroyed” the game by doing things that interrupted this heavy triggered game. We never finished a campaign, we just played to the point where it was obvious that we are going to win the war within the next three years….
So, never made an Invasion on the Beaches of Florida, but once we took some parts south America, great operation base to zero US Fleet activities, helping to Japs AI who managed to nearly screw it always up …. Once the US invaded the main Island of Japan in mid 1943 !!!!!
So, who is the new HoI? Better than HoI II ?
I like HoI II more.
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They are different, but I quite like them both. Then again, HoI III was the first one I played, so it might feel different if you are already familiar with HoI II.
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It is sad that Hoi III has such a bad performance. It was anoyingly slow when I reached 1943.
If they only had programmed it for parallel computing. Maybe I try it again when I have a faster PC.
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IT WORKS!
How didn't I think of that earlier ::)
Thanks for the help.
You're welcome. (http://www.boesealtemaenner.de/forum/Smileys/bam/bowdown.gif)
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I will give this a go tonight, I used to be a big fan of graphically simple games with more complex playing elements :)
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Well you'll like HoI 3 if you liked Hoi I but the second sequence is different.
Not by much but HoI 2 was my first HoI game and its difficult to adapt to the new system.
But HoI 3 offers me more possibilities and I can't wait to try them!
Most stupid thing ever made on HoI 2:
Invaded the mountains in Equador by an air assault and failing to take over that country in 1947.
I invaded them with 47 AIRBORNE DIVISIONS!
In the end it was neccesary for me to do an amphibious assault...
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Well, most stupid thing I ever made...
When I was totally new to HoI II I didn’t dare to play a big nation, so I thought I could try to be Franko … well, if Franco would have screwed up like me, the flag of Spain would still look like this.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Flag_of_Second_Spanish_Republic_(1931-1939).svg/450px-Flag_of_Second_Spanish_Republic_(1931-1939).svg.png)
Oh yes! I remember! It was when I and my friend played together, he was playing Germany as always (that way I cant screw so much up, besides by playing bad I would just “replay” history) So, the “bitter peace” trigger did not come up for some reason and so he was fighting somewhere far east in Russian territory against the last bits of the Russian army. England was already a German pupped regime and Ireland an Italian naval outpost. After bringing down south Africa my friend ordered me to Invade Brazil by a certain death line in order to get a nice operations base there against the last real enemy, USA.
So, I made a new army group, full mechanised , landed sucesfull in Brazil, and then there was the epic fail…. I haven’t thought about the “bad roads” in South America, so it took me nearly two years to fight brazil and the other countries down, not because of heavy fighting, my army was just not suitable for the terrain. Epic fail in the planning….
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Lol!
I just yesterday repelled an Italian invasion with Yugoslavia!
I laughed even more when I managed to capture Venice ;D
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never got my head around how to play the damn thing. The tutorial made it worse.
I got HoI3 and liked the tutorial and its references, but then I couldn't get any idea what to do. I attempted to drag n drop some units on mexico I think but I never really played more than 30 minutes of trying to figure things out
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Forwards, thread, forwards! I know you haven't been used for over 400 days but that's not an excuse.
Anyways.. I finally understand Hearts of Iron! Hurray, big applause for me!
I'm sick at the moment but when I feel better I want to start a very detailed game as Germany with Dies Irae Gotterdämmerung. Hearts of Iron III that is, Semper Fi, For the Motherlands, etc. No mods yet. That will come, don't worry, Mudra :P
Here comes a question.. Supplies. Whenever I start an offensive away from my own nations, my troops run out of supplies. Mudra already told me to stack up some infrastructure but what if you are out over the sea. Like Germany going from Italy to Africa. What's a good way? Control ports and wait?
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I thought the game automatically got some transports to carry supplies, but maybe if you try with a transport flotilla in a port...? Don't know...
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Haven't tried it yet, will do a test game whether just ports are enough or if I have to put transport planes in airfields.
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HoI3 supplies system is a real bitch when you play Japan. I have to beat the Chinese with under-supplied troops which is virtually impossible. All infrastructure looks good etc. but the stupid convoy system brings not enough supplies >:(. On the bright side I really like the HQ system although I have to give it some help from time to time.
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Only played vanilla HoI 3. Supply system sucks totally. My recommendation: Put officers with Supply-Wizard abbilities onto the Theatre- and Army HQs.
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In my current game as Brazil, I have conquered all of south America except Chile. Venezuela and Peru are my puppets. I early went for an invasion of the New Zealand to make a strong base for the Pacific theatre. I then DoW'ed Australia and made them my puppets. Then I saw Japan struggling with Nationalist China and Changxi Clique, so I DoW'ed them and annexed BOTH of them. Japan got 1/3 of Nationalist China, while I got the rest. When Danzig or war event happened, Germany eventually called me to arms. I accepted abit too early, but I invaded India and took it from the Brits. My convoys were getting so HEAVILY raped by the Royal Fleet (I neglected fleet and only focused on ground and abit on air) I swear, once every second or third hour I lost a convoy ship. In that period I think I built around 500 convoy ships. I had around 10 divisions of Marine infantry who I went from island to island in the Pacific and around South and Central America to clear the British stronghold out.
I then sailed my first army group to Normandy when the Germans had annexed France. I waited for the brits to land their troops, and so they did. They lost it all, because though Germany was at war with SU, they had 1/3 of the army stationed around the channel and Netherlands. Britain freaking landed in Antwerpen. I think around 200 000 Brits landed there and they all got crushed. It was like the biggest fail ever. So Britain was undefended, so I just landed my five armies Near dover and London and just blitzed the hell out of them, and I took Britain by three weeks. No more allies, only fascism and communism...
Now, it is soon time for the Japanese to attack USA (Im in mid 41), which I do not wish to be apart of yet. I need more men first. I can show you some screenies of this scenario if you guys like :)
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@ fuchs:
I haven't played semper fi and for the motherland yet but in vanilla hoiIII you need to take a lot of ports to supply your troops overseas. Every port has a limited suppy througput. You can check it out by going into supply mapmode and clicking on the province with the port. A level ten port can supply about 5-10 infantry divisions depending on which brigades you have. Tanks, mechanised and motorized brigades use much more supplies so whatch out when you invade the USA with your super heavy tank division army ::).
I really like the supply system, because in HOI II it was very easy to invade the USA or in general, launch a succesful naval invasion against an strong enemy. Now it is quite hard and it takes a lot of time, because you have to build the ports to supply your troops. I only was able to take the USA by invading mexico where I build up a good supply base. Landing on the eastcoast is very hard because you will get rushed by thousands of tank divisions, which you have to fight with the handfull of troops you can supply with the few ports you have there. If you have the necessary IC, you can try to build transport planes to help the conoys with the supply job. But I only did this when I played italy and I am not sure how good it works.
@Hjaldgrud:
My last game was with brazil too. At which difficulty level did you play? I played on middle and I did not take so much ground. Did you not get a DOW from USA by waging war in south america? From whom did you buy your resources?
In my game I joined the allies so USA would not DOW me and I could buy my stuff from them. I just invaded the fascist nations in southamerica and helped with the defence of france which finaly led to the fall of germany. After that I lost the savegame but the plan was to invade japan. And than the SU ;D
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HoI 3 has awesome graphics and things like that but...
It's quite hard to understand it to the fullest. It has taken me several months and their 96 page manual to know how to play HoI 2 PROPERLY (HoI 2 is the best HoI IMO).
Maybe I'll give it a new try soon but it's really time consuming to learn these kind of games
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@Hjaldgrud:
My last game was with brazil too. At which difficulty level did you play? I played on middle and I did not take so much ground. Did you not get a DOW from USA by waging war in south america? From whom did you buy your resources?
I did some tweaking. Like giving Vargas the admistrative genious perk (+10% IC) as Head of Government instead of the -5% he had. I also tweaked more starting technologies. And for USA not DoWing me, I changed the guarantees, so that USA did not guarantee anyone their independence except Chile. USA makes guarantees anyway (USA started guaranteeing independence for EVERY single independent island in the caribiean when I had annexed my neighbours), and it sucks to start with neighbours that are guaranteed by a 100x larger nation than you.
Did I destroy some of the realism? Yup. Did it make the game double the fun? Hell yeah!
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Many thanks for the help, will be very useful when the Panzers are rolling through Africa!
Now I'm still doing small tests but I think I will start tomorrow on my grand semi-realistic Germanic crusade. I want to do all the invasions planned by Germany and I want to create Europe the way they wanted to.
Maybe it will turn out more realistic than I want to with Soviet hordes at the Brandenburger Tor. ;D
Anyways, post-war Nazi Europe. Would it consist of puppet states surrounding Greater Germany and her lebensraum?
After the war would have ended I assume they set up actual regimes. Is there actually any solid info on this? Tried searching, no real results.
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Real men play 1944 Scenario as German!
In two Months In Game, i found myself fighting in Berlin for survival!
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Many thanks for the help, will be very useful when the Panzers are rolling through Africa!
Now I'm still doing small tests but I think I will start tomorrow on my grand semi-realistic Germanic crusade. I want to do all the invasions planned by Germany and I want to create Europe the way they wanted to.
Maybe it will turn out more realistic than I want to with Soviet hordes at the Brandenburger Tor. ;D
Do submarines! Put them together in fleets of 3 or 4 ships. Put one fleet on every sea area between Greenland and Portugal, letting them do convoy raids. You can do that with less than 15 submarines. Once the kill messages for enemy convoys stop, you killed all british transports. Every time they build another 5 transports, the kill messages will start again.
Also did that when I played Italy. Germany did not invade Britain, thus I had to lock Britain from supplies. I did not even build extra submarines but took the ones I had. American ASW Mission came occasionally from '43 or '44 onwards. The successiveness of my submarines was shown once I had to withdraw one of my submarine fleets for repairs. The heavy bombers on the British Isles got supplies and started to bomb various targets in italy. Turned out that it was much more efficcient (economy-wise) to destroy the convoys in the Atlantic Ocean than fighting the bombers in italian airspace with interceptors. Interceptors are expensive to maintain.
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Cheers Dukat, will come in helpful. Was already in doubt of what to do with them. Also pumped up the destroyer, capital and carrier researches. Want to do a low/medium recruitment of those with a high standard. Carriers are almost up to date. Wonder how much it would take to tackle most of the British fleet. Hope Japan joins the Axis and keeps them busy in the Pacific :P
Started the campaign. Already on my way to Fall Weiß. Decided to do a little gamble and produced 15 of these divisions: Infantry, Infantry, Towed FlaK 88, Artillery. And yes, I'm playing Dies Irae Gotterdämmerung. I figured the infantry could do most of the work while the 88's will act as both AT and AA and meanwhile the artillery will play her beautiful role of queen of the battlefield. Wonder if it works that way.. Anyways, divisions do have 8,000 strength with that. Good enough for me ;D
Questions:
1. Anyone know what the post-war German plans where? Many puppet states while having lebensraum in the west?
2. How do you unlock the 5-regiments-in-one-division?
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1. Anyone know what the post-war German plans where? Many puppet states while having lebensraum in the west?
I'm not sure. Isn't HoI offering suggestions in the diplomatic menu, which puppets to create? You'd support slovakia, romania, hungary and bulgary. Especially hungary as it had to dispense to its neighbours. Then there in finland as well. Netherlands and belgium cant be puppets until you conquered their oversea provinces. Hitler wanted to give Africa to Italy, while Japan would take Asia. Italians want south-east france and dalmatia coast, usually. The Croatians get larger parts of Yugoslavia/Serbia therefor. The Ukranians could be made a puppet on soviet soil as well. If you got a problem with Spain, the Basques will make a good puppet.
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Questions:
2. How do you unlock the 5-regiments-in-one-division?
Dunno about DI:G, but on vanilla you have to research the Superior Firepower doctrine
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I tried the HoI 2 demo on Steam and...
I went through the learning session but damn, I did not have a clue where to begin.
How much time do I have to spend to get around and start moving in lets say HoI 3? Is there a FAQ/Help available in-game?
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There should be a tutorial in the game, but don't bother playing Hoi3. It's much inferior compared to Hoi2 games. I suggest you should start with vanilla Hoi2 or it's add-on games.
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Thanks again, guys ;D I'll get there.
And Rawhide, just press buttons. Move some units, research some stuff, produce random things. Just try out every button there is in the game, after a while you will realize what they do. Oh and read AAR's on the HoI3 forum, after seeing all those tasty conquests I wanted to do it, I wanted to play that goddarn game. Push yourself to it, the start is extremely hard but once you get into it it's fun and logical.
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There should be a tutorial in the game, but don't bother playing Hoi3. It's much inferior compared to Hoi2 games. I suggest you should start with vanilla Hoi2 or it's add-on games.
Wouldn't completly agree with that. If you like moving your divisions by hand, HOI II is better. If you like a more detailed supply system and don't want to bother with doing all the invading by hand, HOI III is better.
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And even though the map is hilariously incorrect in HoI3, I do like that there's loads of them and that you can attack from several directions. And the game looks much better :P
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If you're a beginner with HoI, do a minor nation. I can recommend Netherlands, Belgium or Finland for the start. You'll have a rather quick game giving you insights where to put your attention to.
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A good tip for newbies in this game (hoi3):
http://www.paradoxian.org/hoi3wiki/Strategy
USE THE HOI3 WIKI! It helped me so much when I didn't know anything!
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Since the official HoI3 forums are shit when looking for advice.. Here is Fuchs again.
I managed to get into the 'Unholy Alliance' with the Soviets after the M-R Pact. Anyone know how safe this alliance is? Will the Soviets just be my friends now?
I want to put some Gar. Divisions on the eastern front and turn my full mighty army to the West to crush Benelux and France.
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I think you cannot break up alliances as long as the alliance is at war with somebody.
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It seems to hold out. January 1941 and still going strong. Rather keep them as my friends. Did set up a defensive line in Poland though, will invest in fortress/AA in future. You never know ;D
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Si vis pacem, para bellum, Fuchs... Si vis pacem, para bellum... In 1942 you better be ready for the red army...
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I had the same feeling.. No troops on the borders though, Soviets got everything somewhere else. Plus side about the alliance, I can see all their troop movements.
Will continue to work on my defensive line in-land. Following a river through Poland, and a few regions out of the river to link up properly in the south with the Hungarians. After I'm done with my major conquests I'll probably secure it with real infantry instead of Garrison defenders. Already got enough units to keep the production line empty for fortresses and AA guns. Apart from the long-range submarines I keep building.
And yes Dukat, I am using your strategy. They do kill a lot of my submarines though. But I'm sinking more than I'm losing. At least underwater.. Main fleet is all gone.
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I had the same feeling.. No troops on the borders though, Soviets got everything somewhere else. Plus side about the alliance, I can see all their troop movements.
Will continue to work on my defensive line in-land. Following a river through Poland, and a few regions out of the river to link up properly in the south with the Hungarians. After I'm done with my major conquests I'll probably secure it with real infantry instead of Garrison defenders. Already got enough units to keep the production line empty for fortresses and AA guns. Apart from the long-range submarines I keep building.
And yes Dukat, I am using your strategy. They do kill a lot of my submarines though. But I'm sinking more than I'm losing. At least underwater.. Main fleet is all gone.
Defensive structures are a monument to human stupidity. BUILD ZE PANZERS SCHNELLER!!
Although in HoI2 as USSR I once built a huge line of forts across Latvia, Belarus and Ukraine so the Germans never got very far. Then I made an amphib landing in Königsberg and the war was over in a month.
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Fortress lines may be stupid, but they definately have style 8)
I am a big fortressbuilder myself, because i like the cool symbols on the provinces ;D
Wouldn't do it in a competetive multiplayer game though ::)
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I would love to play hoi2 in multiplayer with some ppl.
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Nonsense Paasky! And this is not to hold them back forever, I would build a weak fortress line with defensive troops to delay them. While they are busy ramming those structures I will push my land forces through the Ukraine while I do a airborne/amphibious launch through the Baltic nations. Cut them off, mop them up. War is over by Christmas.
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Nonsense Paasky! And this is not to hold them back forever, I would build a weak fortress line with defensive troops to delay them. While they are busy ramming those structures I will push my land forces through the Ukraine while I do a airborne/amphibious launch through the Baltic nations. Cut them off, mop them up. War is over by Christmas.
ZE PARAPANZERTRUPPEN JA!
Especially if you start it at new year :P
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I have more armoured divisions than any sane person would produce ;D
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I always conquered Russia. But I was always to lazy to conquer America. Thus bunkers and garrison at the Atlantic Ocean did the job for me.
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Is Hearts of Iron 3 any good? i have never played any Hearts of Iron and I was going to download it but did not know if it would be worth it
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You can play HoI if you got nerves of steel, more spare time than your granny and do not fear to sort units for hours without having advanced a single game day. Honestly, try the demo first.
http://www.gamershell.com/download_49276.shtml
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You can play HoI if you got nerves of steel, more spare time than your granny and do not fear to sort units for hours without having advanced a single game day. Honestly, try the demo first.
http://www.gamershell.com/download_49276.shtml
Thanks for the info! :) I well download the demo and go from there
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I would love to play hoi2 in multiplayer with some ppl.
I tried to get it to work with a friend once over hamachi, but it did not work. A couple of weeks ago we tried the same with Hoi3. It worked, but it was way too slow.
How do you play in multiplayer?
I have more armoured divisions than any sane person would produce ;D
I hope you have enough fuel for them ::)
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Fuel does not seem to be a problem, basically all tanks saw combat in Poland and I never had supply problems.
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Baku Oilfields.... 8)
Ships uses much more fuel than tank divisions, and I as long as I have kept marine operations to a minimum, I haven't encountered so much fuel problems. RARE FREAKING MATERIALS on the other hand...
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It worked, but it was way too slow.
How do you play in multiplayer?
How you mean slow? Friend and I have been playing once in a while and it works just fine.
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Baku Oilfields.... 8)
Ships uses much more fuel than tank divisions, and I as long as I have kept marine operations to a minimum, I haven't encountered so much fuel problems. RARE FREAKING MATERIALS on the other hand...
Supplies are not accurate. There is too much supplies on the map. You never run into problems. Especially when you buy some extra fuel since 1936.
When I played vanilla HoI 3 with Netherlands, I recaptured Amsterdam by surprise and sea in 1944. All my supplies, materials and stuff the germans took in 1941 have never been shipped to germany. It was all still there. Accordingly the germans must not have had any use for it.
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How you mean slow? Friend and I have been playing once in a while and it works just fine.
We couldn't get the normal internet online mode of the multiplayer to work. So we used hamachi and lokal game mode. Maybe this made it slow.
My friend was hosting the game and his game always ran a couple of days ahead of mine. This got better when we reduced the gamespeed, but on my machine the game was still very unresponsive. I always had an annoying lag between my mouseclicks and the reaction of the game. The machine I used runs the game well in singleplayer. But I used w-lan so this could have been the problem too. Maybe I should give it another try when I have the time for it.
Fuel does not seem to be a problem, basically all tanks saw combat in Poland and I never had supply problems.
If fuel is no problem you have not enough tanks ;)
When I played with germany I started to run out of manpower a couple of month before Stalin accepted the bitter peace, but the japanese saved my ass ;D
But if you don't have war with the SU there will probably no problems with that.
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SCREENSHOT TIME! Show me your empires, Hopers!
It feels good to annex Great Britain!
(http://i52.tinypic.com/2coihvo.jpg)
(http://i51.tinypic.com/17bhax.jpg)
Spring '42. The Reich has taken the Baltics with airborne inf, but left Poland as an independent nation. SU is freaking PISSED. Finland, Romania, Jugoslavia, Italy, Hungary and Bulgaria are ready to follow their ally Germany in the invasion of SU and secure the lebensraum!
(http://i51.tinypic.com/301kduw.jpg)
I LOVE renaming armies!
(http://i54.tinypic.com/6pydf7.jpg)
(http://i51.tinypic.com/2yy7fj6.jpg)
I really need more manpower...
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Playing HoI2 1945 Scenario with some "Realism" mod as American.
Managed to hold out France, Belgium and the Netherlands for a while Yeah, fight took place in Italy, Yugoslavia invaded it with Soviet units and the decisive battle was fought in Anzio, wich i Won. Later on, counterattacking the Soviets i managed to cut-off lots of their units at Turin-Genoa, with some luck, recaptured Venice and invaded Rijeka. By then, the massive Soviet offensive has begun, about 102 Divisions, YES!!, attacked Pattons V Corps at Essen, almost killing everyone. After some bitter fights, the Soviets captured Paris and drove straight towards Spain, i placed my troops on Marseille, in order to use as a fortress.
But it wasnt enough, Soviet units were everywhere, i won some Battles yeah, but it was time to withdraw to Genoa and Turin, i managed to evacuate the 7th Army and fought some battles for Venice.
By this time, the Soviets has stopped, UK and Allies are on their own fight in the Middle East, Nationalist China has almost lost the war, they just have Taipei and no Troops. Commies in China are invading Vietnam. USSR took Korea, Soviet Naval units are raiding my Ports in Japan while i relocate my Navies to Osaka to fight them. Im preparing two more Army Groups in the US to help Greece and attack the Soviets from the south.
This is a kickass game.
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This is a kickass game
I so wanna believe this every time I read something about it but damn, I just can't get hooked when I try!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBJETKrM92M Oh my God. Look at that pocket he creates when SU advances in Poland! Masterplan/gaming the system :P
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The ambush in Poland was really cool. Apart from that I only saw VP rushing :P
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That guy on the vid is sick...
Really nice moves!
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Those are some awesome pockets he is creating.
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Wonder on what difficulty he is playing.
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Must have been a bad AI, as no one in their right mind would make a push like that, seeing that mass of units in your flank.
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Yeah those encirclements look so effortless. He doesn't even bother with two-pronged attacks, he just swirls around from one side creating logistic's officers nightmares by driving in wide semi-circles for 500km. Also turning Poland into one massive red army trap is very lame and unrealistic.
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In my game, the great Soviet Offensive finally began.
I was unable to hold the front, with about 200 Warsaw Pact Divisions rolling trough Belgium, Netherlands, France and nort of Italy. After their brutal succes in Europe, they turned on the Middle East, completely stopping the British offensive and launching a very succesfull counterattack, reaching the Suez Canal, stopping there.
After this two succesfull campaigns, the Commies in China decided to go rushing trough India. Now, Europe (Except for the UK, Italy and Greece) and Asia is under Communist control.
Now i find myself in my last attempt to halt the Soviets, perhaps invading Soviet Occupied Spain, taking Gibraltar back (Mediterranean is completly locked for naval units) and holding out in the Pyrenees.
Of course, i have 5 Nukes in my Reserve, Japan is once again Independent, waiting for them to build an Army and withdraw troops to fight in Europe, perhaps leaving the Marines and a small Squadron of Ships in the Area.
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Interesting. What nation are you playing?
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USA
Ill get some Screens soon.
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Nice. My next game I think I will go for a neutral USA to wage war on Everyone :P
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Just had an epic game. Decided to play as Ethiopia, HOI3 Semper FI+ HPP 2.0 mod. Wanted to see how long I could hold out against Italy.
Well. With no techs, no doctrines, not evne basic infantry techs, and with nothing but militia, some infy, and a couple mountain troops against the might of the italian forces, which were backed up with armour and air support....I managed to crush italian somalia withen 6 months due to a lucky break when I took Mogadishu and cut off their supplies. In the north, after hard delay battles and counter attacks, I stabalized the front lines. I waited there, entrenched, for a year, building up a few more militia brigades and getting the starting infantry techs, before striking at the weakest italian flank. After a month long battle that drained my man power by 6, I broke the italians, and flooded north. A couple months later, after more hard, seesaw battles which saw half my army massecred on river banks trying to break north, I managed to slice through the italian flank again, and took their port in Eritiea. I held it against counter attacks, and soon the giant italian army was starved of supplies. I then simply chased it north, until it was completly crushed. End game, and glory to Haile Selassie!
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg839/scaled.php?server=839&filename=unledwsi.png&res=medium)
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This is the SOVIET ARMY
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr315/torenico/ScreenSave8.jpg)
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr315/torenico/ScreenSave9.jpg)
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr315/torenico/ScreenSave10.jpg)
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Nicely done Von Mudra :)
Never thought about playing ethiopia. Maybe I should give it a try sometime.
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Very nice Mudra, you gave me an idea. As I am currently living in Groningen (NL), I thought I'd start a game in 1936 with them.
Playing Arsenal of Democracy v1.07
I started by building 3 factories while I was inventing better infantry & faster fortifications. Later on I realized factories require manpower so that was kinda stupid TBH.
I brought in all 3 divisions from the Dutch East Indies (they were being attritioned almost as much as I produced manpower).
Spent most of the 4 preparatory years building land forts. In the end I had 10 in Rotterdam, Eindhoven, Arnhem & Groningen, + 5 in Leeuwarden & Utrecht.
Germans attacked May 2nd 1940. I took military control from the Belgians, and quickly evacuated them to Rotterdam & Eindhoven.
After the first week, I had won battles on all fronts, with messages like these:
Victory over the armies of Germay in Arnhem! We lost 15 brave men, they lost 2436 men.
Victory over the armies of Germay in Arnhem! We lost 0 brave men, they lost 551 men.
Victory over the armies of Germay in Eindhoven! We lost 2694 brave men, they lost 12999 men.
Victory over the armies of Germay in Groningen! We lost 538 brave men, they lost 12404 men.
But slowly my land forts started to crumble. First I lost Eindhoven, and almost Amsterdam but luckily I produced 2 new land forts, and a few French tanks appeared there. Then, after a month of almost constant attacks, the land forts at Groningen dropped to under 4, so I had to retreat to Leeuwarden.
All of the units under my command have Victory or Valhalla + Offensive enabled.
Situation June 4th 1940:
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/peksoft/files/hoi_dutch_June1940.jpg)
Losses sustained statics:
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/peksoft/files/hoi_dutch_June1940Losses.jpg)
Losses inflicted:
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/peksoft/files/hoi_dutch_June1940inflicted.jpg)
Let's see can I resist for another month... Situation is deteriorating fast.
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(http://koti.mbnet.fi/peksoft/files/hoi_dutch_June26%201940.jpg)
It's not going well...
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It's scary how close to me you are. I could step in the car and be at your front door in 50 minutes.
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It's scary how close to me you are. I could step in the car and be at your front door in 50 minutes.
I've got beer in the fridge ;D
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I don't like beer :( How long are you here? And what in the world made you go here? ;D
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I've also got wine & soup :P
Here until Christmas, I'm on an internship. I have friend at the University so I thought I'd send a few internship applications as a laugh, and got a place :)
Started a new game as NL, this time a bit wiser from my previous game. It's now June 14th, 1940, and I haven't lost a single province!
Largest battle was for Eindhoven, where I had 4 inf, and France brought in 4 inf & tank, vs 38 German divisions. Won it, I lost ~2000 men, the Germans lost almost 30 000 ;D
Now the French are slowly pouring into Holland through the Ghent corridor. I noticed I could place my new land forts in allies' territory so I started to fortify the Ghent corridor to lower the risk of Jerry getting it.
Brits are being their usual pussies and sending in bombers but holding all their armies in Blighty.
All of my forts are still between 9-10 strength. Building 5 AA per province & 4x Fokker D.XXI's have helped keep them from being blown up by the Luftwaffe.
Germans are typically losing 100 men for killing one of mine (ex: we lost 44 brave men while they lost 4600)
I've already disbanded the Dutch Royal Navy to give me more manpower to keep the fight up.
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Well if you ever travel south to see something in Drenthe, PM me, maybe I know something about it and maybe if I'm not too busy with work I can even join you ;D
That's all with the off-topic chat. Curious to try Netherlands in HoI3 now. Probably need to make use of the rivers in FtM and set up a defensive line along them, re-creating the Waterlinie :)
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This is the SOVIET ARMY
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr315/torenico/ScreenSave8.jpg)
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr315/torenico/ScreenSave9.jpg)
(http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr315/torenico/ScreenSave10.jpg)
IMO the best mod of HOI2 - the AI is just so good...you must plan very carefully if you want to encircle your enemies. (Or just even to defeat them on the battlefield) That is the only time I use my brains in a video game.
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14.06.1940:
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/peksoft/files/hoi2_dutch_06_14.jpg)
Starting to look like another WWI: The German advances have been halted, and troops are slowly moving North for a build-up against the Germans there, maybe even an encirclement?
23.07.1940:
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/peksoft/files/hoi2_dutch_07_23.jpg)
Unfortunately this wasn't the case. The French AI started moving troops from the Maginot line, the Germans attacked, and any reserves were stuck in Holland. The Dutch are still defending ferociously, and it looks like a tough Autumn for the Germans. The Brits are chilling back in their island with 30-40 divisions.
07.08.1940:
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/peksoft/files/hoi2_dutch_08_07.jpg)
After a two-months of almost constant fighting and almost 40 attacking German divisions, the defenses of Eindhoven finally decreased so much defending it was no longer possible. A retreat to Amsterdam was ordered. The French are starting to loose ground fast, and any hope of rescue from either them or the Brits is gone.
15.08.1940:
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/peksoft/files/hoi2_dutch_08_15.jpg)
After the fall of France and the disarmament of the French troops remaining in Holland, an evacuation plan was being formed. It was going to be fraught with tough decisions as the Dutch navy consisted of just 3 troop transports at this point.
26.08.1940:
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/peksoft/files/hoi2_dutch_08_26.jpg)
The defenders of Arnhem were putting up a heroic defense, but were slowly losing ground against the 8 times larger enemy armies, half of which consisted of armoured units. It was decided to retreat first to Leeuwarden and then Amsterdam.
01.09.1940:
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/peksoft/files/hoi2_dutch_09_01.jpg)
The defenders of Rotterdam start their retreat towards the capital, while the three transport ships picked up the surviving defenders of Groningen. There would not be enough space for all four divisions, and the 8th infantry division was ordered to stay on the defense while the others were evacuated. They were promised to be picked up later, but they knew it was a suicide mission.
03.09.1940:
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/peksoft/files/hoi2_dutch_09_03.jpg)
The Dutch Air Force is evacuated into Norwich, while the surviving Groningen defenders are being shipped to Dover. The battered army holds a last stand outside Amsterdam.
05.09.1940, 10am:
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/peksoft/files/hoi2_dutch_09_05_2.jpg)
Once the ships appear on the horizon the last defenders start a mad dash north towards the shore. There are 8 infantry divisions left, but room for only 3. Chaos ensues as it's every man for himself now.
05.09.1940, 4pm:
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/peksoft/files/hoi2_dutch_09_05.jpg)
The Germans waste no time in capturing Amsterdam. Panick spreads among the troops as they realize just how little room there is in the evacuation fleet.
07.09.1940:
(http://koti.mbnet.fi/peksoft/files/hoi2_dutch_09_07.jpg)
Of the original 15 infantry divisions, the tattered remains of 6 group up in Norwich, and start to prepare themselves for the presumed invasion of Britain.
All in all I resisted for a bit over 3 months. If the French AI wasn't such an idiot and the British AI such a pussy, I think we could've fought a long delay battle, eventually tiring out the Germans.
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I believe you would get better results if you fortify holland only and hold there on the left side of the Ijsselmeer. At Leuwaarden and Groningen you always end up in a pocket.
Edit:// In HoI3 I hold the left side of the rhine until september, but then germany poured several armor divisions into the attack, pushing me back. The french send armor, but once our troops had lost their entrenchment bonus, the germans pushed us back.
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There is an AAR for HOI3 where a guy, playing as Netherlands, was able to completely defeat the Germans. Unfortunately, his AAR ended when his save game became corrupted, but this last screenshots he posted showed the complete collapse of the German army, and the conquest of western Germany.
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I believe you would get better results if you fortify holland only and hold there on the left side of the Ijsselmeer. At Leuwaarden and Groningen you always end up in a pocket.
Edit:// In HoI3 I hold the left side of the rhine until september, but then germany poured several armor divisions into the attack, pushing me back. The french send armor, but once our troops had lost their entrenchment bonus, the germans pushed us back.
Yeah, it's simple enough defending for a few months, but once your fortifications start to crumble it's only a matter of time before they fall. Especially since the Germans have enough manpower (once France is defeated) to keep up constant meat grinders that reduce the forts faster than they can be repaired.
Might try Belgium next, as then I can continue the Maginot line to the sea.
Mudra:
Unless the mechanics have changed drastically from hoi2 to hoi3, I don't see how it's possible to defend for many years, let alone beat the Germans with just 16 divisions, which is the absolute max the Dutch can have by June 1940, manpower wise.
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I would like to present to you guys two best capitalism - communism partition I have ever done :D Pictures are from my USSR game (Darkest hour is the game).
First, central europe.
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j41/goljatti/Hoi2/CentralEurope.jpg)
Second, China. (I expect those Japanese forces in south to be routed anytime soon.)
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j41/goljatti/Hoi2/China.jpg)
And here we have the list of Warsaw-pact countries and their military strength.
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j41/goljatti/Hoi2/Communistblock3.jpg)
Communist China was able to gain that much of ground because I gave all my cavalry armies to them as an expeditionary force and that followed Soviet tanks under my own control that acted as support.
United states are currently attacking Japanese puppet of Burma and India from ROC and are also taking over Indochinse union that is also Japanese puppet.
What to do next? My navy is basicly nonexistent so a landing into Japan is out of opiton currently. Perhaps an airborne invasion?
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Airborne can be Costly, large Airborne operations almost always end in failure. You have enough IC to produce transports, do some little airborne operations and back them up inmediately with tanks and regular infantry. That should be enough for Japan.
In my game tho, my latests Succes were taking Mallorca from the Commies (101st Airborne did it), small Raids in the Middle East by Infantry Divisions and destroying the Bulgarian and Czech Air Forces in extensive Air Superiority Missions. The invasion of Southern Spain, to open up Gibraltar and allowing Allied ships to travel trough that Channel. After i, i needed to close the Perimeter around it. But in Almeria i think it is, the Soviets massed about 15 Divisions, i couldnt do shit about it so i had to retreat ALL my troops to Gibraltar (Mountain and Level 10 Forts, plus 35 Divisions and Massive Naval Support). In the future, i will attempt to cutoff the Soviets from Supplies. Landing in Barcelona, taking the Pyrenees and holding out waves of soviet Divisions, then move south and complete the Encirclement.
I can dream. I have nukes.
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Well I just came up with two problems. One: I have forgotten to research airborne infantry. Two: I have forgotten to research transport planes.
However, Soviet Union is such a funny country to play in DH because you get three transport plane fleets and one airborne division even if they are not researched :D
Also a edit into to the situation in europe. June 1947, Allied occupation zone turned into Federal Republic of Germany (FGR) and because of that, our great leader Joseph Stalin gave the order to set up DDR ;D
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Mudra:
Unless the mechanics have changed drastically from hoi2 to hoi3, I don't see how it's possible to defend for many years, let alone beat the Germans with just 16 divisions, which is the absolute max the Dutch can have by June 1940, manpower wise.
Well, he did it. Enjoy the read:
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?520802-quot-Fortress-Holland-quot-a-1936-Dutch-SF-campaign&highlight=Fortress+Holland
(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/1600/hoi3game201102202314517.png)
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Enjoy the read:
I did.
Two major differences I saw from HoI2:
- Manpower regenerated at over 1/month! In my game it was between 0.01 & 0.02 per month :P
- Expeditionary forces. For some reason the only troops I got were French, the allies never bothered with the continent...
- Don't know how the fortresses work in HoI3, but in my game they started deteriorating after a month of constant fighting & bombing. After another month they were all destroyed so most of the defensive bonuses were lost. This is the thing that really screwed me over, defending wasn't a problem with 9-10 forts ;)
I started a game as Belgium though! Managed to hold on for a few months, until the forts started crumbling. I had a 40-day battle for Liege, where I was doing troop rotations so my disorganized troops could get back into the green before being sent back. But finally the loss of manpower was too great so I retreated to Namur. Then the hammer came down on Antwerpen. After another long battle of huge losses, retreated to Brussels. But now the Germans were too exhausted to win anything, even if I had no forts left! They kept doing small or medium-sized (4-20 divs) attacks but couldn't get anything done. I ordered all the Belgian & Dutch divisions with artillery to start pounding the troops in Antwerpen, which they have done non-stop for 8 months now.
I saved and quit in June 21st 1941, when I got this message: "The Soviet Union announces: End of the Winter War, Finns accept recently happened to them"
I'm guessing the German AI won't attack the USSR if France still exists. So now it's just biding my time, waiting for the Americans to get dragged in by the Japanese.
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You reallllyy need to get HOI3. With the expansive+ modding, it is far more interesting than HOI2, hands down.
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I tried it, but it was too different from hoi2 so I raised my hands and shouted GAMES ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE SCHOOL! and went back to them game I learned to play when I was younger and eager to learn :P
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I tried it, but it was too different from hoi2 so I raised my hands and shouted GAMES ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE SCHOOL! and went back to them game I learned to play when I was younger and eager to learn :P
Funny, I feel the same thing about HoII... HoIII is so much easier!
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Moving the US IX Corps (12 Div), US VII Corps (12 Div), US First Army (12 Div) and VIII Canadian Corps (12 Div) to land in Eilat (VIII Canadian Corps and US IX Corps) and Gaza (US VII Corps and US Army), backed up by the 9th and 15th Air Force Fighters, No.1 RCAF Air Command, 8th Air Force.
Naval Support:
San Franciso Squadron: USS Missouri-USS Ranger-USS Wisconsin-USS Mississippi
USN Fleet 10 or Taskforce Mediterranean: USS Leyte-USS Saipan-USS Princeton-USS Hawai-USS Illinois
Task Group 58.2: USS Wasp-USS Bunker Hill
Task Force 44: USS Arkansas-USS Texas-USS New York
Armada de Argentina: ARA Moreno-ARA Rivadavia
As the main Ships.
I look forward to cut off an entire Soviet army, dont know the exact number of divisions but, its a risky operation, i will get all the transports i have for this operation, 24 Divisions will hold out against who knows how many divisions they have! When its all over, i will withdraw all my units from there and invade Greece.
Yes and I will use Nukes if i have to (8th Air Force will be carrying them)
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Just posting here for Mudra and other AAR readers, Uriah is back.
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WAT
WAT WAT WAT WAT WAT
WAT!?!?!?!??
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Somebody please show me the best HoI (any HoI game/mod) AAR that will convince me to buy this game
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If you buy it, you will try it. If you try it, you will fail really hard. The game will sit in your games collection for over 6 months untouched. After that, more and more AAR's make you try and in the late hours of a lonely night you finally find out how it works and boy, it will feel so great.
Try a few of these, bound to be one with it you like. There's so many ways to play this game.
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?439687-Rank-and-File-A-clerk-s-war-Germany-1936-(Semper-Fi)
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?558374-Kneel-Before-Zog!-1936-Albania
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?536156-The-Supermacy-of-the-BeAAR-1946-USSR
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?527604-The-Z-Plan-A-German-HOI3-SF-AAR-(HPP)
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?513683-Arsenal-of-Righteousness-America-in-World-War-Two
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?416322-Imp%E9rio-Novo-An-Axis-Portugal-AAR
Just a few links I found on page 1 and 2 of the AAR forum but those are the one's I've read and really liked. There's more of course but those are deep inside the dark corners of that forum. Try browsing the AAR section, I loved doing it in between school work. Sadly school banned that website and I can't properly browse it with proxy's :(
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Fuchs, you're a hero, thanks!
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Playing Darkest Hour, Barbarossa is won in less than 3 months, destroying more than 250 Soviet divisions in the process. (technically should be roughly 270)
The invasion force is splitted into 3 main groups, roughly 60 divisions each. a 30-wing strong air force and Navy consists of 2 old battleships and a bunch of destroyers also participated.
German troops preparing to invade the Soviet Union, June 1941
(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2865/forceu.png)
The Soviets resist very hard in the first month of battles and was stalled in the south until an eventual breakout as the Northern front collapsed.
Major breakthrough for army group south, July 1941
(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/7695/southa.png)
At least 60 Soviet divisions perished in battle for Lithuania and therefore the baltic states fall quickly to German hands.
Russian troops fought to death defending the fortress of Brest-Litovsk, only to find the Germans created a huge pocket and 60 or more Soviet divisions immediately perished or trapped.
Situation in the north during the first week of August, 1941
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9576/barqj.png)
The Russians almost stopped the Army Group North near Leningrad but swarms of German bombers make fighting impossible for the Russians. As a result roughly 10 Soviet divisions were destroyed in the battle for Leningrad
8th of August, 1941, Leningrad is captured by German forces
(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5103/leninp.png)
The Russians defend the outskirts of Moscow fanatically and it was costly for the German army to attack, but it is just a matter of time before Moscow is completely surrounded.
In the South a decisive breakthrough eliminated at least 80 Soviet divisions near Odessa.
German units reach as far as Rostov on don by 15th of August
(http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/5724/ros.png)
Moscow is later surrounded by Army group north and Army group center, 30 Soviet divisions are destroyed.
(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7030/mosyq.png)
By the time the Soviet Union surrender they have less than 40 divisions left in their command. This is a great day for the German nation and Operation Barbarossa became a legend.
(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/645/vich.png)
Again, the war is tough in the first weeks until major breakthrough in the North which tipped the balance - there the Soviets suffered a major defeat, 60(!) divisions destroyed is not a small number... which pretty much allows my army to march directly towards Leningrad and maneuver to encircle the Soviets in the center.
The Soviet resistance in the South collapsed on time - had they resisted longer such encirclement would not be possible. Battles were very bloody and many German divisions lost 1/5 of their combat strength.
I'd imagine if I fight just one month or two slower the Soviets would grow dramatically in numbers (as their production power almost is not harmed at all) and therefore hard to defeat. Fortunately the German army is fast enough and the last determined resistance is the battle for Moscow which the Soviets are roughly 30 divisions strong vs 40+ German divisions.
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Playing some Hoi3 multiplayer with a friend.
Im Germany and he is Italy, hes fucked up. Started his war in Ethiopia, he did the "More IC Exploit", dont destroy ethiopia untill 1938, so you have less IC assigned to your Consumer goods, more divisions!!
Anyways, logistics is a hell of a problem down there and, he had to retreat some provinces untill he was holding out Ed and Mogadishu, eh.
I sent some Divisions, expeditionary ones, nothing. Seems that more divisions, lesss supplies, more problems. He couldnt counterattack, and it was 1938, time to invade Czechoslovakia, not big Surprise, UK declared the war on me.
There, i evacuated all my units from Africa, and he managed to gain some ground but, when i wasnt looking the UK and France joined the battle. Thats it for you, Italian Army, he managed to evacuate a big part of his army really, but his transport fleet was intercepted and destroyed in the coast of cherbourg, only a few provinces away from the Kriegsmarine who was going to aid them.
Now im invading france and they've stopped me in front of Paris, that silly River running trough it, cant break the line!
Its 1939 and i still havent invaded Poland yet, risky move??
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What the hell have you two done? o.=.O
YOU BROKE HISTORY.
Also, try to get Poland into the axis, they can be very helpful.
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I started to play HoI 3 after a long time of waiting to get enough time for the learning of the game's secrets.
Now I started with Argentina in 1936 and I've set myself a task to be a foothold for the axis on South Amerika.
I'm currently revising my stats and deploying my armies along the Urugvaian border as they're gonna be my first victim but before I do that, I want to improve my relations with Chile and stabilize my domestic affairs and soon after Uruguay's fall I plan on joining the axis and maybe get some licences so I can build some panzers. It's not going to be an easy task but I want to try it, especially getting the Falklands for Argentina when I join Germany in war ;)
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I made a Greater Hungary! Preparing for Barbarossa now, need to make a screenie :)
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What the hell have you two done? o.=.O
YOU BROKE HISTORY.
Also, try to get Poland into the axis, they can be very helpful.
Hehe, yeah, what the hell have we done?
And you know whats worse? Japan invading France. Fuck yeah! in our last game japan invaded Marseille and they stopped there.
In this new game, Japan invaded some port city located in the Biscay bay. They took half of france with 6 divisions, against them just 3 French divisions, the rest facing me and my ally.
/rage, quit game, start game as japan, disband all units in france, play as germany, watch france pwn the lone jap theater hq in france, wich for some reason still holds a province!
No, i will not get poland into the axis, but i will keep it out from the allies, influence then DoW.
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Trust me, get it into the axis if you can. It provides very good infantry support, plus it's border allows you to mass much closer to moscow and leningrad. It is very useful. THere was an AAR not long ago where a guy allied with the Czechs and Poland, and them, plus the Romanians, were actually more successful against the Russians than his own German units.
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Oh si, Czechs.
When i invaded them, i couldnt break their main line. So i asked Hungary for help.
Silly hungarians, for some reason they had the desicion on what to do with the Czechs, puppet and they fucked up my global domination plans.
FUCK HUNGARY
in hoi3
luv u hungary
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I am playing with Argentina too atm. I decided to join the mighty allies however. The Americans deliver cheap resources. It is already 1950 and my powerfull army (about 20 devisions :-\ ) has conquered Uruguay, Brazil, Peru and the main islands of japan. I tried to get a foothold in Indochina on the japanese invaded asian continent, but the resistance of the guanxie clique combined with Japanese bombers was too strong . I had to evacuate from Hongkong, Hanoi and Saigon. I imediatly transfered the troops to Korea which they took in the blink of an eye. But now at the manchurian border I start to meet resistance of Manchuria and Shanxi. Those annoying japanese planes are in the air again and do heavy damage to my troops. But my interceptors have already been ordered into the area.
My main problem is the low leadership. It is at 6.something ATM and it is really hard to keep the fighter airtechs up to date. I can not even dream about fleet research although I build American destroyers on license. Manpower is a little pain in the ass too and the war for china will be very costly. But the generals have promised me that my mighty army will stand at the Persian border within 3 years ::).
Then its time to meet the Führer in berlin and ask him to surrender before I personally come and get him ;D
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Yess!1!
Finally managed to break French defenses near Paris, but im still having problems.
My army in the south might be only 200km away from Mersaille, but its completly in numerical inferiority so i cannot move.
I have managed to destroy half of the Maginot line, stupid swiss allowed the french garrisons from the Maginot to escape trough their territory! Such things mean war but NOT now.
I cannot still take the fortress belgium, lots of units there but completly cutoff from the main force, i can see the AI is pretty smart, the french have actually launched a succesfull counterattack in order to link up the pocket forces and the rest of the army, but i've destroyed such thing after some bloody battles.
Arlon, Beligum, was a pain in the ass. 4 Air units (Tactical bombers) were destroyed and many others were almost killed. They've lost 11k men wich is, for me, a lot, since most of my battles are not that casualty-heavy.
My ally was in serius problems when the French army managed to break trough his Turin/Genoa defenses. I quickly sent units there to stabilize the front and yes, its all a stalemate now. AttacK? Impossible, for some reason you get only 36 red at start and counterattacked inmediately by the french.
North africa is doing great!, he has managed to break the British line at the south of Alexandria and push towards Suez. After some bitter fighting, suez was taken and the Alexandria Garrison was surrounded.
And its 1941 and i still havent touched Poland!!!
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Just started Darkest hour with France.
There was some chaos at first and those panzers rushing for Paris, actually managed to conquer all of my atlantic coast regions before I managed to stop them.
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s300/ajappat/hsskk.jpg)
But then everything went other way.
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s300/ajappat/ranska.jpg)
Any suggestions about what to do now? Axis are defeated in 41 and game could get horribly boring.
Edit: Sorry for blurry pics, but I was lazy and used MS paint ;D.
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Invade the Soviets?
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Leave alliance, and invade Russia, do what Napoleon failed to do...
btw, the Darkest Hour AI is really what an AI should be like - they are much less prone to encirclement and likes to encircle you. The vanilla AI is just a joke.
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I'd suggest freeing austria, czechs, hungary, germany, etc, and create a postwar europe/nato thing. Get Poland into the alliance, and transfer all of east prussia and selisia to them (Let the germans keep pommerania). Try to bring Yugoslavia, Romania, and Bulgaria into the alliance, and if you fail, invade and puppet them (try not to destroy their armies in the process). Then prepare for war, because if it's like HOI3, the Soviets will eventually declare war around 1942/43. If not, declare war yourself, and free them from the communists :P
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btw, the Darkest Hour AI is really what an AI should be like - they are much less prone to encirclement and likes to encircle you. The vanilla AI is just a joke.
Yeah, I have usually played armageddon or arsenal of democrasy. This was actually first time I played DH for real and I was suprised how much better and more fun the war was. In Hoi2 AI just want's to keep straight line and push forward in line, while in this france game for example, AI moved pretty much like I could have moved. They used every breaktroughs to push a lot of armor behind my lines and starter encircle me in larger scale, cutting my whole front from supplies few times. I also can't remember ever loosing any divisions to AI in HoI2, while during this game I lost over 10 divisions permanently.
Oh and french planes rule, I honestly think I could easily have lost this war without my 4 tac bombers and 12 interceptors.
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Anyone has a DL link for a Map Mod?
I want a retextured map
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(http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/4527/japan1937shanghaipocket.png)
November 17th, 1937
After failing to land their troops directly in Shanghai, the Japanese high command decided to forego any further amphibious assaults on China and concentrate instead on breaking through on land. Having landed the reserve army intended for landing in southern China in Qingdao, they were put to immediate use as the mobile army (6 cavalry divisions with armoured car brigades) broke through the Chinese lines at Kaifeng. Troops streamed through the gap and crossed the Yangtze river vitrually unopposed, but as they approached the coast near Hangzhou they ran into a stream of Chinese divisions desperately trying to escape the Shanghai pocket. The battle for Hangzhou lasted more than a month, but in the end, the Japanese prevailed, thanks to the shore bombardment from their battleships and the support from their bombers stationed in Taiwan. In early November, the Japanese continued to tighten the noose by capturing Yangzhou and Nanjing. Now, the battle of Suzhou rages, as 32 Japanese divisions desperately try to cut the 80+ Chinese divisions into two pockets, one in Nantong and one in Shanghai.
71 (in game) hours after posting this, Field Marschall Hata, Supreme Commander of the Imperial Japanese Army is killed in battle at Suzhou... Ugh...
(http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/2275/japan1937suzhou.png)
November 28th, 1937
Despite the death of the highest ranking Japanese Army Officer, the Battle of Suzhou is won on November 28th. The desperation of the National Revolutionary Army begins to show with the increasing number of Chinese casualties after each battle.
(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/8784/japan1937shanghai.png)
December 9th, 1937
The Shanghai Pocket has been reduced to only the city of Shanghai itself. As some 30 Chinese divisions retreat from Nantong, the other 52 Chinese divisions desperately try to defend the city against the Japanese onslaught. But the Chinese have been fighting in the pocket for close to six weeks. Their supplies have run out and no reinforcements can reach them. Each division is but a shadow of its former self, many being down to 10% of its original strength. As the Imperial Army closes in from the north, south and west and the Imperial Navy pounds them from the east and the Imperial Army Airforce rains down hell from above, the Chinese stand no chance to survive. The battle for Shanghai will not last long.
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1530/japan1937inflicted.png)
December 16th, 1937
The last remaining NRA forces have been cleared from the Shanghai area. Since the war began on July 7th, 1937, the Japanese forces have killed over half a million Chinese troops at the loss of 40 000 men of their own. Intelligence indicates close to a third of the Chinese armed forces have been destroyed in the Shanghai Pocket.
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3066/japan1938wenzhou.png)
January 22nd, 1938
A month on and the Japanese Army celebrates yet another successful encirclement. Though most divisions managed to escape while the battle for Fuzhou was raging, 12 Chinese divisions have been trapped in the Wenzhou pocket and are being crushed. Simultaneously, Japanese troops are cutting trough the Chinese lines at Ganzhou, hoping to reach Guangdong in a month, thereby encircling some 30 Chinese divisions.
(http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1233/japan1938guangdong.png)
February 18th, 1938
Lt. Gen Kuribayashi captures Guangdong right on schedule. Some 24 divisions are trapped in the pocket with an additional number forced to return to the pocket after failing to hold Guangdong.
(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/861/japan1938shantou.png)
February 27th, 1938
Another pocket is destroyed. Chinese resistance in the south is melting away.
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btw, the Darkest Hour AI is really what an AI should be like - they are much less prone to encirclement and likes to encircle you. The vanilla AI is just a joke.
Yeah, I have usually played armageddon or arsenal of democrasy. This was actually first time I played DH for real and I was suprised how much better and more fun the war was. In Hoi2 AI just want's to keep straight line and push forward in line, while in this france game for example, AI moved pretty much like I could have moved. They used every breaktroughs to push a lot of armor behind my lines and starter encircle me in larger scale, cutting my whole front from supplies few times. I also can't remember ever loosing any divisions to AI in HoI2, while during this game I lost over 10 divisions permanently.
Oh and french planes rule, I honestly think I could easily have lost this war without my 4 tac bombers and 12 interceptors.
airpower is the key to win in DH (unless you have already steamrolled your enemy, factories whatever regenerates quite slowly so if there is no airpower all the ICs would be ruined... The DH AI also would use logistics strike/runway cratering to ruin your day. (As Germany the brits bombed by Level 10 airbase to 0..., effectively wrecked my fighter org regeneration)
The AI is surprisingly good in the sense that I lost my first campaign to the French as Germans (In regular HOI2 you could win with less divisions because the French don't reinforce Belgium). But in the 2nd attempt I kicked his ass so badly (and as well sunk most of the Royal navy with my battleship/battlecruisers, and defeated Stalin in 3 months). So it is the time to try very hard and try to lose the war in 1945 :P ... As Stalingrad is possible in DH...
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Started a game as Italy in Arsenal of Democracy + CORE.
Had an aggressive foreign policy, and was very Italian that I started wars even though I was horribly under prepared :P
Made an alliance with Austria, and then attacked first Albania in Dec 1936, then Yugoslavia in Jan 1937. Almost immediately Romania, Greece & Turkey declared war on me. But I had about 40divs going against the Yugos on two fronts, and almost 200 ships to keep my coasts clear. War was going slowly but surely my way. Then Germany DoW'd me...
I'd taken about ½ of Yugoslavia when the Alpine front collapsed, and I started a frantic rush towards the coast to evacuate my divisions with my 3 transports.
Ended the game in June 1937 with 50 divisions holding the line against the Germans in Venice & Trento, + 3 divs keeping a foothold in Albania. Austria was annexed by the Germans. The Reggia Marina had sunk most of the combined Yugoslavian, Greek & Turkish fleets.
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Necro-Bump!
Anyway, the mother of all encirclements:
http://youtu.be/gyJ9guexT70?t=16m44s
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That encirclement is... like a dream haha.
I still remember my first MP game on HoI III, me as Germany and my mate as Italy.
Incredible, yes, but he lost the war against Ethiopia, he couldn't understand why his troops were without supplies and a single Ethiopia unit could defeat a bunch of Italian divisions, so he kept sending more and more units, big mistake, by 1938 he had to evacuate the whole place.
It took me several years to get rid of France, i had to go all the way down south because of that river by Paris. Then i discovered a way to manage my units and sent an entire Army Group of Mechanized and Panzer divisions along with my Italian allies down to Ethiopia, after conquering Yugoslavia, Greece, Turkey, Syria and Iraq.
Ethiopia didn't lasted long against this overwhelming army.
We got Uruguay, Argentina, Brazil and Chile into the Axis, i invaded Yemen and Oman just with paratroopers launched from Somalia. Later on we moved into South America, my buddy sent tons of units to assist Brazil in conquering Venezuela, once we finished there it was our newest member. I captured Batista's Cuba with just Fallschrimjager Divisions, evacuating them from the Island was a pain because it has no airport :| One Central America country was neutral, Guatemala, and it was influenced by the allies, the rest were members of the Allies, Colombia fell and Costa Rica followed soon, not long after Ecuador surrendered, i started to influence Guatemala in order to keep them out of the Allies, for obvious reasons. At the same time, British/Australian/French/Belgian/South African forces launched a offensive in Ethiopia, our forces were out of supplies and we had to retreat for a bit, Von Manteuffel was the German commander in there. Not even our mighty brigades of MAUS could stop this.
Guatemala joined the Allies and a massive army of US divisions stormed South America, in just one month, we lost Colombia and Venezuela (Ecuador was occupied by the Italians who managed to survive the encirclement) but we managed to stabilize the front by Suriname and then we stopped playing.
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Ok so:
I builded like 2 full marine divisions in portugal, so i may start my invasion to cuba.
They finished to be produced on the production screen.. but now i dont find them anywere!!!
This thing is pissing me off: creating the units, and dont find anywere on the map! I DONT SEE THEM!
So: what am i suposed to do? what should i do to see them on the map?
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You need to deploy them first. There will be a new icon under your flag in the upper left corner where you can select which of your units to deploy.
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Thanks ;D
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They finished to be produced on the production screen.. but now i dont find them anywere!!!
They are actually loaded and stored in your industrial cargo space. The size of the cargo space depends on the industrial capacity.
In order to produce goods and products your industry needs raw resources, which are usually transported by truck, train (and ship). Ore gets transported to the steel mill, the steel gets transported to the weapon manufacturer, and then, finally, the weapons get transported to wherever you want them to be deployed.
Your industry maintains the required amount of cargo vehicles by default. If you do not deploy the weapons now, they are kept in the cargo vehicles.
This means also that your industry got less cargo vehicles available for transporting their freshly produced socks to the naval base where they are needed badly for the crew in some smelly submarine.
Thus keeping units undeployed hampers your ability to supply units in the field. Instead of 100%, you only might get a supply rate of 70%. The only pro about this is, that the undeployed units do not waste supplies at all.
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I did not know this. thank you
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I have the german language versions of both HoI 2and 3 games. How can I change the language to english?
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The fight for survival goes on.
On 20 March, 1947, Zara was captured and now the target was split. In desperation, the Allies tried to relieve Split by launching almost suicidal attacks, all halted by the German divisions in the area.
On 22 March, Soviet troops began pushing the Heeresgruppe Mitte back, two of it's army corps held their ground remarkably, these being the LII. Armeekorps and the IX. Armeekorps. I moved them back, allowing the Soviets to gain ground but retreating to gain time.
On 23 March, German forces began their assault on Split, the desperate Garrison fights for three days while I suffer attacks from the north, in a attempt to open a gap and allow the Split garrison to escape.
26 March, Split fell, 35970 Soldiers just disappeared from the map. A strategic victory in the Croatian front, but there is no time for celebrating, we must go on.
http://i.imgur.com/xNV6mez.jpg
30 March, Minsk is empty, no German units in the city. This is the result of total chaos during a powerful Soviet offensive against the Heeresgruppe Nord and Heeresgruppe Mitte. Later on, after several counterattacks, which were costly, I was able to reinforce Minsk.
April 2, German vanguards have reached Drubovnik and proceded to surround the port, which was left undefended. This is a clear sign that the Allies lack reserves in the area. After taking Drubovnik, the Allies are now left to one port, Tirana. I must plan yet another offensive to take this port, launching attacks from the north and east, with the I. SS-Panzerkorps leading the assault from the north and trying to link up with Armee-Abteilung B attacking from Bulgaria.
http://i.imgur.com/fmTjGqM.jpg
April 5, Fighting around Minsk. The Soviets are closing in from several directions, the City is now occupied by German forces.
http://i.imgur.com/RxdG1A2.jpg
April 8, Soviet forces launched their offensive on the city of Minsk which will last until April 19 with the withdraw of German forces from the city. Situation of the Croatian front.
http://i.imgur.com/qSNCeHS.jpg
April 17, German forces (Panzergrenadier Division Großdeutschland) 45km from Tirana but unable to attack, outnumbered.
April 20, Soviet offensive against the Heeresgruppe Mitte and Heeresgruppe Nord, with the 3. Panzerarmee and 19. Armee suffering the most. This offensive is most likely not to be stopped any time soon, the Heeresgruppe Nord faces a great danger (Courland Pocket, historically) and most of the units from said armies were completely smashed by the Soviets. Once the Soviet Machine starts rolling, it cannot be stopped. The Soviets are most likely to advance that far before being stopped either by a miracle or by something else. There are little reserves available and not a single of them is in that area.
http://i.imgur.com/MxYEf8R.jpg
Army Groups and the areas they control by 22 April.
http://i.imgur.com/xePs1A1.jpg
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You cannot hold back against the might of the USSR forever!
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Oh god the geographical blasphemy those provinces are
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Oh Christ how I'm going to stop the Red Wave while preserving Manpower?!
With Fortifications, I hope, or peace? Impossible, game says that it's a war between factions and it will only end when one destroys the other.
So I was thinking of Fortifications, to be accurate, defensive lines. My territory do have some fortifications in some areas, while in others there are just no defenses at all.
Maybe it's too late, but I was drawing a plan that contains all lines that I plan to build.
Starting from the east, we got the Danzig-Krakow Line, a long defensive line which runs trough the River Vistula, this will be the very first defensive line the Soviets will come across.
Konigsberg Line, I don't think it will ever be finished, but I still planned it. The idea is to create a defense around the important city of Konigsberg but also protects Memel.
We got the Kolberg and Meritz-Stolp Lines, these two are more or less to perform delaying actions, by this stage the whole army would be in retreat, some units will run back towards the strong Oder Line while others will perform delaying actions in both Kolberg and Meritz-Stolp lines, allowing the units in the Oder Line to have time to deploy, dig in and reorganize.
Next we got the big one, the Oder Line, this heavily defended line will protect the Reich from the Soviet human wave. It will work as a stopping line, to halt the Soviet advance completely. Two big Armies will guard this line by that time, and with mobile reserves on the rearguard to counterattack if the line is broken in a particular area. Further behind, these units that have suffered horrendous losses in the Eastern Front will try to build up strenght, protected by the Oder Line.
We got the group of Berlin defenses, Zickau-Lubben Line links up with the Oder line and works with the the Dresden Line to protect Berlin's southern flank, while in the north the Rostock Line will try to prevent any Soviet advance towards Denmark or to make a enveloping action around Berlin from that direction. These, along with the Berlin-Nord Line, Berlin West Line A and B complete the Berlin Defenses.
Hermann von Salza line is the second biggest defensive line planned, already built by the Czechs years ago, I only plan to reinforce it. It protects the Southern Reich, including Praga and it's defensive lines. If they break trough this line, Czechoslovakia and Austria will be in danger.
Vienna-Nurnberg line is the last defensive line before Austria itself, it's not top priority along with the Munchen line, as I consider these lesser lines.
http://i.imgur.com/DgnkQon.jpg
However in the Eastern front, things are looking quite historical. The Soviets are launching a strong offensive against the Army Group Centre, which in real life was the target of Operation Bagration, as you know Bagration pretty much destroyed the entire Army Group Centre and isolated the Army Group North. Saving the differences, first being the date, I might fall have the same destiny the Germans had in 1944-1945, at least in the Eastern Front. These are crucial hours.
A defeat here will destroy my Heeresgruppe Mitte, cut off the Heeresgruppe Nord and allow the Soviets to make a run towards the undefended Berlin. Mitte's 9. Armee and 4. Armee are in great danger, totalling 158.000 men are close to be trapped in a pocket. The loss of these two armies will make the Heeresgruppe Mitte a weak combat force. I've rushed elements of the 2. Armee to cover the 4 and 9 Armies retreat, while in the north I'm setting up positions around Kaunas and moving reserves to stop the Soviets in central Lithuania. I've also moved my small transport fleet towards Memel, to prepare if I need to slowly evacuate units from Riga. They are dangerously close to Prussia, just 94km from there.
http://i.imgur.com/RQV2ZMh.jpg
Have a nice New Year :)
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Happy New Year to you too.
1st, isn't constructing of the land forts to a reasonable level (5+) going to take just too long? From what I see, you have a chance to make the Oder line work if you stop working on all others and cut your panzer-making IC budget.
2nd, I don't know how to make HQs other than new Corps HQs when I detach a unit from its former hierarchy.
So the question is, how do I make "army", "army group" and "theatre" HQs? Could you enlighten me? Because for now I have OKW (originally Bitburg HQ) and Berlin HQ with 6 Xs and "Heeresgruppe C" (Originally Wien HQ) with I think 5 Xs.
3rd, How, for Christ's sake, is your national unity 88%? I'm at 1944 and my national unity is 55% and dropping, and I'm not even at war with the soviet union!
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Happy New Year to you too.
1st, isn't constructing of the land forts to a reasonable level (5+) going to take just too long? From what I see, you have a chance to make the Oder line work if you stop working on all others and cut your panzer-making IC budget.
2nd, I don't know how to make HQs other than new Corps HQs when I detach a unit from its former hierarchy.
So the question is, how do I make "army", "army group" and "theatre" HQs? Could you enlighten me? Because for now I have OKW (originally Bitburg HQ) and Berlin HQ with 6 Xs and "Heeresgruppe C" (Originally Wien HQ) with I think 5 Xs.
3rd, How, for Christ's sake, is your national unity 88%? I'm at 1944 and my national unity is 55% and dropping, and I'm not even at war with the soviet union!
Hi
1, I'm not creating new units now, the last time I created units were quite a lot of AA Brigades which I set up in the rearguard waiting to be assigned to frontline units. Most of my IC is destined to supplies, reinforcing and production. Since my manpower is quite low, I will be saving it to reinforce beaten frontline units, for the moment. I really can't produce more tanks, my Fuel reserves are too low and more tanks will just eat whatever I have left. I'm thinking, however, of producing some Air Transport units, to deploy parachute divisions fast or resupply trapped/out of supplies units. Land Forts is the last chance I have, even though I agree maybe it's too late for these forts, but what the hell, it's that or nothing.
2, if I understand your question corrently, select one of your corps and click on the button that is next to the "deatch/attach" arrow, that will create a Army and so on. You have to start from the bottom.
3. Nationaly unity is already at a good value in the 1944 scenario, however constant bombings will lower it over time, especially in this scenario. Go to intelligence tab and set the "Raise National Unity" to the highest level and also the number of spies in your country. That will raise the national unity slowly, also check your Politics tab, see if some of your ministers lower the National Unity as one of their values (Not sure if a minister has such value though) AND see what is lowering your NU, bombings, lack of friendly units in your territory or convoy raiding. If you are getting bombed, check your main cities, get a few Interceptor Squadrons to do "Interception" missions over the objetive itself OR an area in particular (You can, with advanced airplanes, cover pretty much the entire of Germany if you know how to use the Missions window). They will intercept any hostile airplane in that specific area, intercepting bombers = good things to make propaganda of = raising NU. Interceptions is a very good mission type, they will only take off when they have to and also saves fuel.
If it's convoy raiding, go to Production and set the convoys to manual, see where they are being attacked and either cancel that route, deal with it (You have to, as Japan the only way to fight convoy raiding is to produce more convoys :/) or try to hunt the Submarines or whatever they use to raid your ships, not recommended as Germany, but you won't have much trouble with convoy raiding here, try not to set routes from, for example, Konigsberg -> Benghazi, because they will go trough a shitload of Allied territory and are easy targets for their ships.
If it's that "No allies fighting in our territory", never had that one, ever, if you do, yell at them for incompetence, I guess.
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I never really understood the supply situation in Hearts of Iron 3 and so far it destroys my mood after a while. I have too many areas with good logistical infrastructure but supply are not getting through. I made up anti-partisan units that's not the cause as well. So most of my units are not moving after a while.
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The routing of the convoys was the biggest problem in early HoI 3 versions. I'm not even sure if you can cancel routes. You could not in HoI 2. It started sending ships again when considered necessary on its own.
When I played Netherlands in HoI 3, my capital was transfered to Asia in 1940, when the germans took Amsterdam, and when dutch marines re-took Amsterdam in 1945, all my goods and raw materials and oil was still there, and my small convoy fleet started shipping everything to Asia, because my capital was still in Asia. And thus my whole economy blew up while my troops starved to death on lonely pacific islands.
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D'oh! I never felt like screenshotting the game, but I will replay this scenario where I invaded England through Blackpool because it's simply too awesome. Not to mention it's 1947 and I'm still not at war with the Comintern.
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@Erwin
Make sure to remove troops from undersupplied provinces. When you are in supply map mode you can see how many troops a province can supply. Make sure you are not above the limit. Your troops will be almost useless if they are not properly supplied and fewer divisions that are supplied will fight better.
I like the hoi 3 supply system, because it makes amphibious landings much harder. It is easy to stage a landing, but it is hard to supply all your troops afterwards and you need to make sure that you have enough sea ports under your control. Invading north america is much more fun with this.
In the "normal" land war undersupplied troops mostly occur when you have a huge army marching through an area with low infrastructure, like in ethiopia with the italians or in rusia with the germans.
The supply system limits the maximal number of divisions that you can put in a single province so no more 200 infantry divisions holding Gibraltar and similar situations that occured in hoi 2.
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Critical situation for the Army Group North:
3. Panzerarmee transferred to Heeresgruppe Mitte, Heeresgruppe Nord losses strenght.
18. Armee covering southern flank, VI. SS-Korps tasked with the defense of Kaunas, flanked south by the I. Armeekorps. Small counterattack north of Kaunas will take place shortly, enemy stopped along the river Neman, several Soviet assaults stopped. The Luftwaffe is here, 5 Interceptor Squadrons forming the II. and X. Fliegerkorps stationed in Memel and Konigsberg, Soviet bombers will now face opposition on their daily attacks on my troops.
Steiner's III. SS-Panzerkorps under Skorzeny will be sent south of Kaunas to prepare for a counterattack and to stop the Soviets before Prussia.
I'm planning a general retreat from Lithuania, first by slowly pulling back the best units to the port of Riga, there they will embark on Ostsee-Geschwader's transport ships and sent south to Memel, these troops will form a defense around Kaunas. Meanwhile, Steiner's group and the 16. Armee will start pulling back without serious engagements, just delay actions. Unfortunately I will also have to concede Memel to the Russians.
The idea is to form a defensive line along the Neman, at the gates of Prussia, while some units in very bad shape will regain strenght at Konigsberg. This will also make Heeresgruppe Nord front shorter, allowing me to concentrate more troops in a smaller area, while weakening it by sending some of it's units to Heeresgruppe Mitte, where the most brutal and decisive fights will take place.
The Kriegsmarine will also be active for this operation, I'm planning to create a fleet led by Germany's last remaining Battleship, the Tirpitz with other vessels such as the old Schleswig-Holstein, Schlesien and the cruisers Admiral Scheer and Prinz Eugen, escorted by several destroyers. This fleet will support and escort the Ostsee-Geschwader attempts to evacuate units from Riga but also will provide support with heavy firepower to any unit fighting along the coastline.
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@Knitschi
Yeah I'm perfectly aware of that Supply Map.
However when I try to improve the situation I always fail. I boost up infrastructure, post Anti-Partisan units around so I don't get much of that. I create new convoys to boost up Supply but no. Situation is not improving. After a while my forces just lose their strength an cannot regain, they cannot move because there is no fuel(I have plenty) so it becomes frustrating after awhile. I'm a big Darkest Hour and old series fan but so far I cannot play this game because of this.
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Anyone else as hyped as me?
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Anyone else as hyped as me?
No :D
I still like HoI 2 more than 3, so I gues we will see...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1bvX2-XrAQ&hd=1
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
FOR FUCK SAKE! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK! SHITSHUIT YEAH!
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ahhh.
Anyone else as hyped as me?
But...what about victoria 3? :(
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I'm guessing Victoria 3 will be next. Hearts of Iron 3 is the oldest 'previous generation' game.
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East vs. West will come before HoI4 I imagine.
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They are turning East vs West into an open beta game where you pay what you want for the game. So an actual proper release isn't guaranteed.
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I'd love to see what new stuff they can bring to HoI IV, I hope they incorporate elements from East vs West, such as ship customization and for gods sake, ground forces should be accurate!, I hated it when Tiger brigades had a T-35 as their unit photo, or Jagdtigers had M36 Jackson!. Or things like armament, for example, Maus had "Main Gun: No", so does the Yamato-Class SHBattleship what the fuck?, small things but important for me.
Anyways, picked up my 1944 scenario as Germany again, game was getting a bit laggy and stressful, you will see why.
A large portion of Army Group center was about to be cut off from the rest of the Army, after losing Minsk due to a massive Soviet offensive, a large number of men in +30 Divisions of all kinds found themselves almost completely surrounded. The situation was pretty desperate, the Soviets pushed down from the north, trying to seize a single province which kept the supply lines open. I, of course, ordered a full retreat from the almost-encircled units, the defensive operation started on 15 May, and while the situation is much better now, on 29 May, some units are still retreating from the danger zone, but their rearguard is heavily defended. This was pretty intense, with me pausing the game over and over to think.
(http://i.imgur.com/k3ZyZbS.jpg)
The situation for Army Group North is not very good either, several Soviet assaults north of Kaunas have driven back several German divisions. After several unsuccessfull counterattacks, I pulled back huge amounts of troops to Riga and evacuated them by sea, they arrived to Memel in order to prepare another defensive line. Rommel's southern flank and Busch northen flank is under threat of a masssive Soviet assault, 96km north of Brest-Litovsk is the shattered III. SS-Panzerkorps, a breaktrough on this small area will cause a flood of Soviet divisions right by Mitte's rearguard, two Soviet pincers could deliver a deadly strike, one going straight for the city of Brest-Litovsk, the other going north directly towards Konigsberg, none of them could be stopped.
(http://i.imgur.com/wqWSfFJ.jpg)
Meanwhile in the Balkans, I must end things here. I've prepared troops for a decisive attack on Allied positions. The attack is very simple, cut the Allied armies in two. My large Balkans offensive was stalled 73km from my main target, Tirana, so it all ended up on this stalemate, with Bulgarian units launching several successful attacks. I will concentrate my main efforts on a 86km long front, it is relatively well defended, but I will attack with brutality. Encircling and destroying the Allied armies gathered around Zagreb will relieve several of my divisions for a last push towards Tirana, effectively destroying all Allied units in the region and allowing me to reinforce critical fronts of the Eastern Front, or send these men to end the Allied armies in Italy once and for all.
(http://i.imgur.com/OXKz17k.jpg)
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So.. What's the war goals, general? Hold out 'till a ceasefire?
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I've modded the game so that the game would last till year 2000+, I hope it works, game ends at 1948 by default, I'll find out soon.
Goals, actually the main goal is to survive, but I don't know, Barbarossa 2 and taking Moscow?. I don't mind getting my ass kicked by the Soviets, after all I'm playing the 44 scenario to get that feeling of being desperate, the feeling of fighting an already lost war.
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World domination?
Take positions along Volga and choke yourself in vodka, kaviar and oil?
Peace with the Allies and total annihilation war with the soviets? Or the other way around?
Survive until end of game?
Edit:didn't see the last post.
This is very nice, I enjoy these reports. Keep it up! Wipe them out of Italy, and then reinforce the east. Although that's a bit far fetched. I'd just throw them into the crimson grinder
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It's annihilation war against the Soviets and Allies, since this is a war between factions, you can't make peace untill you destroy, or you are destroyed.
First, I must find a way to defeat 700 Soviet divisions, then we can speak about world domination hehe. If my little change into the game works, this will be my longest game in HoI ever, longer than my 1936 game as the USA in HoI 2 with a mod which I can't remember the name, what a fun game, started invading countries for the lolz and then Japan invaded the US east coast and italy (Captured territory was italian but most of the units were German) landed on the west coast, felt like World in Conflict, never had so much fun, I even nuked my own territory.
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So after this general retreat, I have to reorganize my Heeresgruppe Mitte. Scattered units, divisions fighting under Nord's area, it's chaos.
First, Heeresgruppe Mitte HQ redeployed to Warsaw, a clear sign of defeat. Main Armies, 2. Armee, 9. Armee, 4. Armee, 19. Armee and 3. Panzerarmee HQs redeployed well behind the front, to avoid aerial attacks and being caught in the fighting.
Heeresgruppe Mitte is a 450.000 men-strong force, but it is not enough to reliably fight the Soviets. It is, however, capable of delaying them. It's something like this:
19. Armee is currently holding their positions on the blue area, it's a 68.941 men strong Army, it's mostly made up with Hungarian units but they have repelled several Soviet assaults in the past, they took part in defensive operations to save 9. Armee, 4. Armee and most of the 2. Armee from annihilation.
2. Armee is quite a strong army, consisting of some battle hardened divisions and are currently holding the Yellow area, 126.000 men strong, most of it's units saw heavy fighting such as Weidling's, XXXI. Armeekorps which is deployed north of Brest-Litovsk.
Both 9 and 4. Armee are currenlty in this messy area (Green), 4. Armee is 68.827 men strong while the 9. Armee is 55.215, both units suffered massive losses.
3. Panzerarmee is also big, 127.000 men, some of it's units are fighting along with the 9 and 4 Armies but the bulk are scattered along the front with a reserve in Brest-Litovsk. I must get this thing sorted out, I don't like to see an army scattered around, things must be organized.
(http://i.imgur.com/xJBZYa3.jpg)
As for strategies, I still expect a Soviet attack towards Brest-Litovsk from the north, they will just smash the III. SS-Panzerkorps and the XXXI. Armeekorps, both units are quite exhausted and were involved in heavy fighting for weeks. My idea is to reinforce the 2. Armee with elements coming from the 3. Panzerarmee and start pulling back the divisions that suffered the most. There are divisions with almost 0 organization, others with half of their original strenght. I will slowly start retreating the 4 and 9 Armies towards Brest-Litovsk, attempting to make the front "shorter" so I can concentrate troops in a smaller area.
In the Balkans I've attempted to capture the vital province of Gradiska with the 11. Panzer Division and other units advanced 34km in some areas, but a series of Allied counterattacks pushed back some of my divisions and the 11. Panzer was fiercely counterattacked by the Australian 1st Armored Division and pushed back. By the Adriatic Sea coast, east of Dubrovnik, British troops coming from Albania also launched an attack on Das Reich SS Panzer Div. and pushed it back, adding more relief to Tirana from the north. IV. Armeekorps consisting of 2 Panzer Divisions (Two Panther brigades), two German infantry divisions and one Romanian infantry division is redeploying to Salonica, Greece, to relieve the 2nd Infantry Division of Vichy France. My plan is not only to relieve this unit but to counterattack and regain lost ground in Greece.
Fuel is also becoming a problem. While there is no "0 Fuel" thing, like my units can move around even if it says "20" fuel in the resources tab, but they have shortages and they wont be receiving fuel for days, they consume their fuel reserve and after it's empty, they suffer a massive movement penalty. When I had to move around tons of tanks to save Heeresgruppe Mitte I suffered a big shortage of fuel, I could have attacked the Soviets more often if it wasn't for this problem.
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(http://www.the-games-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Hitler-Downfall-Screenshot-001.jpg)
Don't worry, General Torencio, Steiners assault will bring it under control...
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So.. What's the war goals, general? Hold out 'till a ceasefire?
Defeatist!
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(http://www.the-games-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Hitler-Downfall-Screenshot-001.jpg)
Don't worry, General Torencio, Steiners assault will bring it under control...
And so will Busse and Wenck offensives despite being outnumbered 10-1!, with a ruthless and mighty attack!
I've made some progress in Croatia. I've retaken Gradinska and despite several attacks from the Austrialian 3rd Infantry Division and 1st Armored Division, I managed to hold it. Now the allies concentrated their efforts on Nasice, defended by the 2nd Fallschirmjäger-Division and 98. Infanterie-Division.
The Allies launched an attack on two divisions belonging to the LXII. Armeekorps south of Zagreb, pushing them back 75km and threatening the rearguard of the advancing 11. Panzer Division. After reinforcing this area with reserve units and launching a counterattack, I encircled the British 3rd Infantry Div. and destroyed it. Luftwaffe played a vital role bombing Allied positions and disrupting their movements in the Zagreb Pocket.
7. SS-Gebirgsjager Div. Prinz Eugen and 13. SS-Gebirgsjager Div. Handschar crossed the River Sava, Prinz Eugen captured Sisek on 7 July and stationed itself southeast of Zagreb while the Croatian 373. Infanterie Division seized Virovitica, both units linked up and surrounded 4 Allied divisions into a small pocket east of Zagreb. Handschar Division faced strong opposition from the Mexican 4th Infantry Division, 11. Panzer Division supported Handschar's attack and they crossed the river on 8 July.
(http://i.imgur.com/VPiVX45.jpg)
In Albania several Allied divisions launched an attack towards Dubrovnik, 130. Panzer Lehr saw heavy fighting but managed to hold their positions. In Greece the IV. Armeekorps relieved the French division in Salonica and engaged Allied forces pushing south towards the open Athens.
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So.. What's the war goals, general? Hold out 'till a ceasefire?
Defeatist!
..No! I mean we force them to submit! So we can cease our fire! Down with the Bolsheviks! Down with Churchill!
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Started in 1941 Scenario and decided to give it another shot.
I captured Moscow&Leningrad by March but I seem to be stuck at Rostov in the South and Red Army now wreaking havoc around Kursk&Kharkov. I'm having a hard time containing them. In the meantime I pushed in the North and going for Archangelsk.
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Have you successfully destroyed some (by some, I mean hundreds of thousands soldiers) units by enveloping them? I haven't played Germans in vanilla since Semper Fi, but that did the trick back then, for me at least.
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it's hard to get enough troops to do it properly
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Yeah and whenever you manage to envelope some of them the AI always finds a weak spot and traps my forces.
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Well, shit, I was having so much fun...
My 1944 game is over, even though I modded my game to end on 1.1.1999, it still ends on 1.1.1948....
By July 1947 I launched an offensive against the Allied troops trapped in Zagreb, it was total success. I moved down south and encircled troops in Serbia, cutting them off from Supply routes coming from Albania. After this victory, Allied forces in Italy began yet another offensive, aiming to take Venice. Battles here were hard fought, and reinforcements arrived just in time. Up in Lithuania, the Soviets opened a gap in my defensive line and pushed trough it, Kaunas was attacked and the battle was bloody, as usual.
I started looking at the manpower reserves, the few battles in Lithuania alone (For example in Kaunas, a Latvian Volunteer division was down to 50% of it's original strenght in ONE battle) were enough to make me make a decision. Massive offensives in Italy and Greece, ending the Allies once and for all, then sending most of these troops to the Eastern Front for a final, decisive clash with the Soviet Union.
After finishing off the remaining troops in Serbia and stabilizing the Venice front, I launched the Major Offensive in Italy, with Two Army Groups and over 400.000 men. The Offensive went well for the Heeresgruppe C armies, pushing from the west towards the east, aiming to take the fortified city of Firenze, Bologna and Rimini, cutting off the Allied armies in two. Lacking armored support, the Offensive was stalled 75km from it's starting point, taking heavy casualties.
Simultaneously, I attacked the Alllied forces in Albania and pushed down into Greece. I achieved total air superiority and allowed the Luftwaffe to begin bombing Allied forces in Greece, greatly reducing their combat capacity and allowing my forces to take less casualties.
By 25 December, I had smashed trough Allied defenders and it felt like 1940, unstoppable. Game ended shortly after, I aimed to take the Greek capital by the second week of January, the Allies were too weak to prevent this.
(http://i.imgur.com/PetdADl.jpg)
A real shame!, it says "You can continue playing" and click on continue but it just stays there, damnit.
I might start yet another game as Germany 1944, this time in a much harder difficulty, or Germany 1936 (NEVER gets old, NEVER), I feel like building up an huge army to invade the USSR like in the old times, or achieve something I was never able to do before, beating the USSR+Invading the UK+Invading USA, in the same game... I want a big game, I could play Finland 1936 now but, I'm only limited to Winter War, Joining Axis, Continuation War and that's pretty much it. Or Japan, but that is very frustrating (The sound of Convoy attacked repeated 100 times in a single HoI3 day breaks my brain, but I love naval warfare)..., Italy could be fun, I need to learn names though, I like to name my units correctly (as much as possible).
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Why not a 1943 game, or 1941?
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I'm not a fan of these scenarios, 1944 is fantastic because you pretty much start losing, 1943 is okay I guess but 1941 is not what I like, because I have all my armies already deployed and, I like custom armies.
That is why I consider the 1936 Scenario the best, because as Germany you can build your army as you like with plenlty of time, and I have quite a few things in mind.
That said, I started my 1936 Scenario which I hope, will be my ultimate 1936 Scenario of all HoI Series, will make it as long as possible and detailed as possible too, I love details, hell I even rename new Brigades (generic names suck) with semi-historical names. I have tons of experience now, I've learned from past mistakes from previous Germany games, this is where I will put all my knowledge of this game in play.
It's time to conquer the World.
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Hell yeah, Torenico! Go show them! ;D
And gratz on finishing the 1944 game, did you win? (VP wise)
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I can recommend Italy, it was the greatest of all games I had. The potential of Italy is enourmous if played correctly.
- Italy is in the war with Ethopia from the start and the war can be prolonged at your will, allowing you to lower consumer goods consumption and production.
- Italy got lots of submarines and a huge fleet which serves perfectly for carrier support and carrier warfare.
- If you manage to lock the mediteranean sea at Gibraltar and Suez, you get a "mare nostrum".
- If you take Spain(1936), Albania(1938), Yugoslavia(1939), Greece(1940) and Ethiopia(1940), you can almost double your industrial output.
- Africa is the natural latitude of Italy which provides exciting battles and requires a good supply coordination.
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Hell yeah, Torenico! Go show them! ;D
And gratz on finishing the 1944 game, did you win? (VP wise)
Allied Victory!, for some reason..., but my objetive was complete: Survive.
I can recommend Italy, it was the greatest of all games I had. The potential of Italy is enourmous if played correctly.
- Italy is in the war with Ethopia from the start and the war can be prolonged at your will, allowing you to lower consumer goods consumption and production.
- Italy got lots of submarines and a huge fleet which serves perfectly for carrier support and carrier warfare.
- If you manage to lock the mediteranean sea at Gibraltar and Suez, you get a "mare nostrum".
- If you take Spain(1936), Albania(1938), Yugoslavia(1939), Greece(1940) and Ethiopia(1940), you can almost double your industrial output.
- Africa is the natural latitude of Italy which provides exciting battles and requires a good supply coordination.
It's been a while since I played Italy, never had a serious game as Italian in HoI3 and had a very good one in HoI2. It's quite of a challenge, starting with limited resources, with a big but not-very-strong Army, an airforce that needs upgrade and a good Navy... it's interesting.
I will be looking into that.
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Playing on Hard is not... hard, it's just a bit silly.
You know, a single division, constantly attacking your 12 divisions-strong unit, keeping their score at 0 (No chance of winning, AT ALL) BUT, it keep all your 12 divisions busy, therefore making them static, unable to move until they deal with this piece of shit division suicideattacking them.
That is what happens on Hard, that's how the AI wins on hard, it's frustrating... and because of that, it's October 1940 and I still haven't beat France. It's only a matter of time before they collapse, I mean, I have their capital and slowly advancing towards their last remaining VPs..., gaining air superiority in Battle of France is kinda impossible, not only you have to deal with the French Air Force, but also against the superaircraftcarrier known as the UK... and you can't thrown in all your fighters because, who defends the cities against strategic bombers?!
Rivers are overpowered, too.
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Do what I did, mass a giant bomber fleet (I mean EVERYONE) and a giant V1/V2 fleet and blast everything to pieces in 2-3 mass bombing raids (everyone included), concentrating on ports and coastal regions, and then just invade them. piece of cake
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Yep. I'm building a large Strategic Bomber fleet and a even larger Tactical Bomber fleet to evaporate UK defenses for Sea Lion. It's one of those "Intercept-my-bombers-i-dont-give-a-fuck" kind of strategies, no matter how many fighters you got, I have more bombers and I wont stop.
I need to beat the RN too!, I built the Bismarck and Tirpitz, they were both ready by 1939. But I also built the Graf Zeppelin aircraft carrier and two more escort carriers, Weser and Elbe with some cruisers among them.
The idea is quite simple, but it's hard to do it. I need to destroy the RN slowly, not in a all-out decisive battle, I don't have the ships, the doctrines and the resources for that. I have one complete battle fleet and one incomplete battle fleet, Carriers aren't Germany's business so my plan is to fight along the coast, with support from the Luftwaffe. I have to, somehow, invite the RN to fight under my conditions, I must have numerical superiority.
A good naval combat would be Iceland, after annexing Denmark I got Iceland and Faroe Islands, Faroe were invaded and seized by France, yes, France, and Iceland was captured by the UK. Sending an invasion force that way would force the RN to come after me, but things need to be damn accurate.
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Yep. I'm building a large Strategic Bomber fleet and a even larger Tactical Bomber fleet to evaporate UK defenses for Sea Lion. It's one of those "Intercept-my-bombers-i-dont-give-a-fuck" kind of strategies, no matter how many fighters you got, I have more bombers and I wont stop.
My man, my man ;D
I need to beat the RN too!, I built the Bismarck and Tirpitz, they were both ready by 1939. But I also built the Graf Zeppelin aircraft carrier and two more escort carriers, Weser and Elbe with some cruisers among them.
The idea is quite simple, but it's hard to do it. I need to destroy the RN slowly, not in a all-out decisive battle, I don't have the ships, the doctrines and the resources for that. I have one complete battle fleet and one incomplete battle fleet, Carriers aren't Germany's business so my plan is to fight along the coast, with support from the Luftwaffe. I have to, somehow, invite the RN to fight under my conditions, I must have numerical superiority.
A good naval combat would be Iceland, after annexing Denmark I got Iceland and Faroe Islands, Faroe were invaded and seized by France, yes, France, and Iceland was captured by the UK. Sending an invasion force that way would force the RN to come after me, but things need to be damn accurate.
Use your naval bombers (or stukas, or anything disposable) for a quick port-strike within range on all ports. That should give you information if there are ships in there. If there is a fleet in, say, Dover, just wipe it out, the whole port and the fleet with your bombers.
Use your submarines to lure out the ships, if you like. But in the end, here's a suggestion. Organize your best ships (both capital and screen) into one fleet. And then use the rest (Levels I and II, maybe III) as the invasion fleet and fill it up with truppentransporterflottilen. The fierce looking 20+ ships lvl IV fleet will fight the RN and cover the invasion fleet, which will just transport troops across the channel, no need to bring them from Kiel. Then when you transport some 40ish divisions on the island, you're good to go. Then merge the remains of both fleets and carry on with the show, and start building more ships ;D
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Sea Lion is a bit tricky. I did it twice in HoI 2 but because the UK was kinda bugged and left some of it's coats without defenses, I was never able to do a Sea Lion in HoI 3.
Shouldn't be THAT hard actually, you have a perfect base (France) to strike, no big deal. But you know the problem is that Germany starts with a small navy AND terrible naval doctrines with NO carrier techs at all, and to win naval wars you need carriers. Plus, you must win with what you have against a navy that was made to knock out two navies at the same time, the Kriegsmarine and Regia Marina. I was never able to win the naval war as Germany in the long run, I was able to sink a few ships from time to time but I had to send my ships back to port for repairs, and when the repairs were complete the US had already joined the war, and good luck beating the USN.
Bombing the shit out of the RN in their ports is a good idea, they, however, tend to keep their big ships on Scapa Flow and, iirc my Tacticals can't reach there but my Ju-89s can, but they will be annihilated by the RAF.
France resisting is making things bad, I don't like Vichy France, so I decided to CONQUER ALL, yes, it's way more fun and way more rewarding. It's november now and let's say by December I finished with France, losing no time I have to invade the balkans, starting with Yugoslavia, probably creating Croatia, then Greece and PROBABLY Romania, puppet them and get good oil income from these guys. At the same time, an invasion force heading towards Norway, either with a paratroopers+amphibious force or a land invasion trough Sweden, which will give me total control of the Baltic sea and good metal resources. After that it's possible (IIRC) to create some sort of union between Norway and Sweden called "Scandinavia" which will keep rebels out AND provide cannon fodder men for any big war.
Then the Soviet Union, that will consume 80% of my land troops, assuming the 20% remaining will be for defense, occupation and reserve..... so, where does Sea Lion fit in?.
That is the problem of Sea Lion :/
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Sea lion 1st, barbarossa 2nd. Or even postpone Barbarossa for 1943, you're not losing anything really
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Problem with Barbarossa is that, sooner or later the URSS will DoW you, but they only do it when they are "prepared", and by prepared I mean +200 divisions going straight for Berlin. If you give the USSR too much time, it's gonna be bad.
You must get Stalin with his pants down, and an invasion in early 41 is perfect (I did it once in 1940 in HoI2, after YOLOrushing Poland in 1937 haha). Sea Lion is crucial, but not as much as Barbarossa. You have a huge land connection with the USSR and you can't really stop an invasion that easy, however you have a channel with the UK, and the only thing they do is send in bombers, and you get warned when they launch in an invasion.
First I start Barbarossa, if things are going well (and by well, I mean reaching Leningrad, Smolensk and Rostov in all three fronts), I can start build up for Sea Lion.
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I played from 1936 and the Soviets didn't do anything except take their part of Poland when I conquered it in 1943. I attacked them in August 1947 after I occupied UK, and never finished the game. I still have a save from 1945 somewhere though
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I got DoW'd by the USSR in all my games :P (except for those where I was the one DoWing them), but after all, when you play Germany, you play to destroy the USSR, dont you? xD, in all my games as German I built my Army around Barbarossa.
France fell, I must deal with pockets of resistence in the Maginot Line (Duh, desperate soldiers + level 10 forts, what could go wrong?). I will wait till they run out of supplies.
Sending an entire Army Group to the border with the USSR for the great invasion, they will also help the occupation forces deal with a massive revolt in Poland, the invasion of France left some doubts, the performance of my army was quite poor in some areas (some of my best units were pushed back quite a lot by French counteroffensives), they capitulated when I was desperate and running out of time.
Setting up positions to defend my new territories and off to the east! the Reds are not mobilized, I can exploit that, their divisions guarding the border are quite weak atm
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Nah, I never bothered with the Reds that much, they're just too much of a hassle. Also mission impossible.
Here, last round (starting '36) I conquered Spain after the nationalists lost, got Portugal into Axis. Then got Turkey in Axis and invaded Syria, Iraq, Kuwait, and Egypt, and got the UAE into Axis. Then overran everythin from Kairo to Lybia and conquered the entire north african coastline, and gibraltar. And then sent 1 panzer and 1 motorized division to on the run through allied colonies on the west coast of Africa. I was thinking of getting Persia into the Axis or conquering them but the Soviets got them first and I didn't want to risk a full scale war. If I had time until, say, 1960, I'd have invaded the reds.
P.S. What does DoW mean?
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Declaration of War
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I go back to good old HoI2 Armageddon to have some fun. HoI3 is "too complex" to get enjoyment from (aka I'm too lazy to learn all the stuff).
Anyways, did a round as Republican Spain and here is the current situation.
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Oops.
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Now thats it! I am going to play hoi 3 now. I will play as the Italians as well. I always liked that they have so many options but so few resources :)
This is my first round after 2 years at least.
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Take your time and organize that OOB, Italy has a terrible OOB. IIRC most of their divisions are two-brigades strong, pretty weak, I'd concentrate on reinforcing your current divisions with new brigades.
Paratroopers are OP. In a MP game I had two years ago, me and my ally Italy deployed several paratrooper divisions along with the transport planes, and since we had a huge empire, with tons of revolts every month, having a large, fast response force was REALLY awesome. Just load your men into the airplanes to an airfield near the conflict area and paradrop all around the enemy, it's great.
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I decided to go Panzerdivision with the Italiens, although I only build the poormans armored division. One light tank brigade, two motorized brigades and an armored car brigade. I joined the Axis before the war started and hoped to break through the French "Alpenfestung" with my mighty tank divisions....
They failed.
Lucky I had some transport ships in Genua so I shiped the tank divisons to Marseille under the cover of my mighty battlefleet. They landed without resistance and made a quick march to Lac Leman cutting off the french divisions in the alpes. They tried to rush back to escape the pocket but my generals where right to put everything into highly mobile units because they were faster.
After loosing their grip on the alpine fortresses my infantry at the Italian border started to advance and the whole french southern army went into war captivity or died trying to swim to Switzerland.
After the Duce (me) recoverd from his victory champaing hangover he send the tanks northward to vichy, dijon and besancon where they soon met the french and britsh troops that rushed down south, leaving their positions on the maginot line.
As I did not want to waste my tanks in trench warfare I ordered them to make a shift to the west to outmaneuver the enemy infantry and make a push towards the Atlantic and then north to threaten paris.
But the enemy brought in faster divisions too, which managed intercepted my push in the west and so it seemed like the frontlines were stabilising on the line Geneve - Bordeaux.
The german cowards only stood by and whatched me do my magic of modern mobile warfare, and I feared I would still loose the fight.
I kept mooving my tankdivisions tangential along the front until I found a week spot close to Dijon where I could push through and create another pocket with Switzerland at its eastern border.
After crushing the units in the pocket the front started to move again and I could finally make the final push to Paris which convinced the French they could not resist the might of the Italian tanks.
Now the Duce is the protector Northern France.
No the Nazis decided they could risk invading Belgium and the Netherlands. I shipped my tanks to northern Africa where the British and Syrian troups stood 50 miles away from Tripolis my last port. But the reinforcements came in time and pushed the enemy back to the Suez channel.
There the Duce had to take his well earned sleep.
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Hearts of Iron IV Development Diary 1 (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?754427-Hearts-of-Iron-IV-Development-Diary-1-Our-Vision)
Hearts of Iron IV Development Diary 2 (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?760702-Hearts-of-Iron-IV-Development-Diary-2-The-Tools-of-War)
MAUS STRONK
In other news, if someone was interested in East vs West, well stop being interested, it was cancelled.
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Well fuck, are they going to introduce tech trees for all vehicles? Because this Infantry/Armor/Artillery triade is dumb, I mean, what, are we going to research G43s in the Infantry section, King Tigers in Armor and 21cm heavy cannons in Artillery? Then where are Sd.Kfz. 250 and 251, FAMOs, Opel Blitz, Kettenkrad, there is a shitload of vehicles and hardware which makes up an army's motor pool and arsenal, how do they expect to simplify it into a World of Tanks © tech tree?
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I'm more worried that it's been so simplified that there will be no differences between variants of each individual tank. Posted about it in the thread, maybe I'll get a response....
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Well fuck, are they going to introduce tech trees for all vehicles? Because this Infantry/Armor/Artillery triade is dumb, I mean, what, are we going to research G43s in the Infantry section, King Tigers in Armor and 21cm heavy cannons in Artillery? Then where are Sd.Kfz. 250 and 251, FAMOs, Opel Blitz, Kettenkrad, there is a shitload of vehicles and hardware which makes up an army's motor pool and arsenal, how do they expect to simplify it into a World of Tanks © tech tree?
It's very alpha so I'd expect more info on that later.
I think it's time to actually CAPTURE enemy tanks and be able to raise units from them, or selling them to your allies.
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Oh and one slightly off-topic question:
Where did the option to trade provinces/territories from HoI 2 go in HoI 3? Why can't I rewrite post-war borders with Italy when they conquer too much french territory for my taste?
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Trading provinces and divisions was one of the coolest features in HoI2, it was not implemented in HoI3 but I hope it makes it in HoI4.
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Totally.
Anyway, I want the game to represent the FUBAR german supply and logistics system and I want to improve it, so I can transfer enormous amounts of supplies all the way from Berlin to Moscow and just drown the enemy troops in lead and cordite
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We should be able to build Supply Hubs otherwise it always screws up at some point.
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Darkest Hour: A Hearts of Iron Game with Kaiserreich v1.5 mod.
Started playing as Hungary, which in the beginning is part of Austro-Hungarian Empire, basically a puppet under Austrian rule. Through event chain I started a civil war and won the Austrians in war that dragged on for 2 years and managed to secure independence.
During this time, situation on the Balkans was pretty hot; Serbia (who had conquered Bosnia and Croatia from me and Austria during our war), Romania, and Greece were planning a war against Bulgaria, who had conquered some of their territories in the "Great Weltkrieg". Bulgaria asked me for help, and I promised to guarantee their independence. The alliance probably didn't see me as a threat, since they went on with the war. Two front war wasn't really what Romanian and Serbian militaries could handle, basically I destroyed them both while Bulgarians were holding off the Greeks. Now, it's late 1941 and I control Croatia, Serbia and Romania as puppets. Kind of expecting to get attacked by Austria soon...
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af343/Ciupita/Hearts%20of%20Iron/unkari.png~original)
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Are you excited about the upcoming Hearts of Iron IV? Then go here:
http://www.heartsofiron4.com/r/groxj8ittu and sign-up.
Not excited? Go there anyway, you filthy monkeys. That way I'll get a chance to get in to the beta.
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Oddly, my paradox interactive account isn't working :S Do I need to make a new account, different from my forum account?
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Yeah same, i guess our account only counts for the forum.
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http://www.heartsofiron4.com/r/j7200lxkl3
Here's my signup URL. :P
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Yeah, you need separate accounts for the forums and the plaza (the main site).
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http://youtu.be/LxGNpPz_W2A
"But it's far more easier to play"
Uhm... Johan killed my boner. Hopefully we will still be able to micro as we want with no stupid plans for the retarded AI
I liked the production screen. Making new variants of tanks and other things is pretty cool.
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IIRC that's just for players who prefer to use the AI, just like HOI3 has the objectives thing for the AI.
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The idea in HoI3 was great but the AI was pretty much useless so you had to babysit anyway. I hope that HoI4 will be a change as EU4 was to EU3. Although I miss the research from HoI1, it had so much flavor.
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That's why, for HOI3, I stick to the mods. They tend to improve research vastly too. HOI4 will be a great game, but what will make it truely shine brightest will be the excellent mods a year after it's release. ;)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCeEy1IFyX4
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Sounds very interesting
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOWrZqlsJBw
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D0jNe_dUVE
In case some missed the stream.
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I need help. In Hearts of Iron 4, I made a custom nation, however the game loads, everything is fine until the "Creating Checksum" part. Then it crashes. Help!
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Does anyone here still play Hearts of Iron III? I decided to give it a spin recently, and I'm finding it tons of fun.
I do have a lot of trouble with trade, though; I'm playing as Austria-Hungary with the WW1 mod (1.0) and I can't seem to keep my economy afloat... Consumer products are consuming most of my IC (42/63), meaning that I can't even build some extra divisions to man my long, long land borders.
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Does anyone here still play Hearts of Iron III? I decided to give it a spin recently, and I'm finding it tons of fun.
I do have a lot of trouble with trade, though; I'm playing as Austria-Hungary with the WW1 mod (1.0) and I can't seem to keep my economy afloat... Consumer products are consuming most of my IC (42/63), meaning that I can't even build some extra divisions to man my long, long land borders.
Consumer Goods will go down by a lot when you are in state of war, because the population will not need products anymore and the industry will begin focusing on military production.
You should take a look into your ministers, some ministers do have some great buffs like extra resources or extra money. Others will affect your IC negatively. Divisions are expensive nonetheless, even as Germany in prewar you can't build more than four infantry divisions (well built, with a good combined arms bonus) because my IC was distributed among many things. As Japan I was able to field a good number of divisions but sadly I had to sacrifice a lot of quality for numbers. Most of my divisions were "triangle" (Inf. Regiment + another Inf. Regiment or two support brigades), I was able to cover more ground but in combat they lost many battles against the Soviets when I was invaded and some Chinese units as well. Perhaps you can do that aswell and keep them as some sort of reserve.
If your borders are long and your army is not enough, you should be able to lose ground but in exchange you should be able to defend key positions, such as cities or rivers. Unless you want to go on the offensive early on.
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Yes, General Torenico is the expert.
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First of all, thank you for the answers. Reading your Germany AAR in these forums a couple of years ago is what sparked my interest in HoI, even though I didn't start playing until last week.
Consumer Goods will go down by a lot when you are in state of war, because the population will not need products anymore and the industry will begin focusing on military production.
Indeed, once war broke out my CG needs dropped like a rock. I also noticed a substantial decrease before the war started, when the Agadir Crisis event kicked in. I've done some more research and apparently CG are tied to neutrality.
If your borders are long and your army is not enough, you should be able to lose ground but in exchange you should be able to defend key positions, such as cities or rivers. Unless you want to go on the offensive early on.
Would you say that building forts in the parts of your frontier not covered by rivers is a good idea? They are a bit pricy but then again I'm not going to spend anything on my navy.
I've found that going on the offensive as A-H against the Russians is suicidal, many of the attacks involve river crossings and I haven't got enough divisions to push to the next decent defensive line, the Dnepr. I'm quite pleased though that the AI in this game isn't totally brain-dead, for they actually keep launching brutal attacks in the parts of my front not anchored behind riverlines. On a semi-related note... are marines worth it for a land power? I've read that a MAR + MAR + ENG is pretty good for river crossings.
Finally, one last question: I have one army made mostly of mountaineer divisions, which has performed well in the Balkans against Serbia, Montenegro and Greece. However, I've read that artillery support brigades suffer crippling maluses when fighting in mountains, as well as slowing down my infantry. Is MTN + MTN + ART a bad division composition?
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I'm not really a fort guy, they're very expensive and once the war has moven out they become almost useless. Maybe if you want to upgrade them to level 3 or 4 that could be better, because going for level 10 forts is not worth the effort imo. But yes, you can try building forts in these provinces you consider weakspots. But then again, forts + rivers are extremely overpowered sometimes :)
I haven't played that mod yet so I can't have on word on your war because I don't know how good each army is. The Russians are a pain in the ass no matter what mod anyways, you should set one goal against the Russians, will be it pushing them away from your borders?, capturing a city like, say, Kiev?, the whole of Russia maybe?. Beating Russia will be a pain in the ass, hard battles, terrible logistics.
Engineers are ofcourse ideal for river-crossing and fort-busting, but I haven't tried a MAR-MAR-ENG configuration yet. In my games, I always build 4 or 5 Marine divisions (mind you, most of my games are as Germany) but they end up acting as garrisons in Norway and Denmark because I never launch Seelowe. Still, if they're not on their landing roles, they behave like some sort of makeshift infantry division, it's quite weak from my experience, just like using Paratroopers as regular infantry.
IIRC Mountaneers lose almost all of their terrain bonuses if they have artillery attached to them, maybe you'd like to use two Mountaineer Brigades + Engineer brigade, you should keep your Artillery brigades for Infantry.
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I haven't played that mod yet so I can't have on word on your war because I don't know how good each army is. The Russians are a pain in the ass no matter what mod anyways, you should set one goal against the Russians, will be it pushing them away from your borders?, capturing a city like, say, Kiev?, the whole of Russia maybe?. Beating Russia will be a pain in the ass, hard battles, terrible logistics.
I think that I should be content to push them out of Galicia, for the time being. Currently I have two armies in the balkans, one covering the romanian border, the other in action ever since the start of the war, first against Serbia & Montenegro, then against Greece. Once the campaign there is finished I'll probably declare war on Romania and rush to the Dnister. My eventual wargoal is reaching the Dnper, taking as many VPs as I can along the way, and wait until the Russian Civil War event kicks in (not sure what I can do to accelerate it - I guess the harder they're loosing and the more I erode their National Unity the faster it will happen).
Engineers are ofcourse ideal for river-crossing and fort-busting, but I haven't tried a MAR-MAR-ENG configuration yet. In my games, I always build 4 or 5 Marine divisions (mind you, most of my games are as Germany) but they end up acting as garrisons in Norway and Denmark because I never launch Seelowe. Still, if they're not on their landing roles, they behave like some sort of makeshift infantry division, it's quite weak from my experience, just like using Paratroopers as regular infantry.
This is the second time that I read that Marines are not worth it unless you're planning amphibious operations. I shall rethink wether I want to spend leadership and IC in them or not.
IIRC Mountaneers lose almost all of their terrain bonuses if they have artillery attached to them, maybe you'd like to use two Mountaineer Brigades + Engineer brigade, you should keep your Artillery brigades for Infantry.
That was a bit of an embarassing mistake then. :P
At any rate I think I will shelf the Austria-Hungary game for now. I have a self imposed rule of trying to play games a couple of times in vanilla before trying mods, it's just that this one time I couldn't resist because I find WW1 more interesting that WW2. I think I might try a vanilla Italy campaign, from what I gather they have a nice learning curve... but also a horrible army composition at the start of the game.
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Never had a problem with AH in WW1 mod. Just garrison Galicia along the river lines/mountain rangers/cities/already built forts with 2 divisions each. That'll be more than enough to just hold there while the Germans do their thing. Put your focus into the balkans, launch the offensive through Montenegro/Western Serbia in order to bypass the river line (only do attacks there if you can overwhelm a single province). Outflank their defenses and bring both to heel FAST. Then garrison Italy and move everything else to Galicia and just methodically step forward rolling along the front. You'll soon end up in Kiev and Russia will be brought to heel. By that point, Italy has entered the war, so cut off their armies in Venice and roll the front to sit at a river line until have closed off the east. Then, again, move river line to river line until you cut the boot off from northern Italy, at that point you can easily knock italy out of the war and move on southern France, while Germany, by that point, should be more than able to push in the north. Your navy is probably far more important to build up than the land forces in the pre-war period, other than equipping/shuffling brigades to create proper divisions. I found that, if I played things right, I could wipe out the Italian navy and effect a solid u-boot campaign in the Med. Just gotta sorte only when you're confident you can win, and use naval recon flying boats to scout.
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Well, a couple of months afterwards I tried to resume my A-H campaign and get my shit together with the KuK Kriegsmarine. I soon realised that I had no idea of what I was doing, so I started a vanilla Italy game, since there are various nice tutorials for that.
I've been learning a lot: land, air and naval combat. So far I've only built BBs and DDs. With such fleets I had success up until early 1941, when Britain decided to bring its carriers to bear in the Mediterranean. They managed to sink a large part of my convoys and submarine flotillas, until I caught them stopping for repairs in Malta and sunk two out of the three CVs using NAVs.
Now it's January 1943. I have puppeted Iraq, captured Malta and Gibraltar and I'm in the process of reducing the starved beachhead created during Operation Torch. The Sovient Union declared war on Germany in August, and I've tried to help my fellow Axis partner the best I've been able to. I have carried out amphibious landings on Odessa and Crimea and managed to establish solild footholds while I wait for Germany to link up.
I'm unsure wether to call Hungary, Romania and Finland to war by this point. Are they usefull allies? Or will they be a burden? I'm particularly worried about Finland since the soviets seem to have an armored division in Hanko.
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Well, a couple of months afterwards I tried to resume my A-H campaign and get my shit together with the KuK Kriegsmarine. I soon realised that I had no idea of what I was doing, so I started a vanilla Italy game, since there are various nice tutorials for that.
I've been learning a lot: land, air and naval combat. So far I've only built BBs and DDs. With such fleets I had success up until early 1941, when Britain decided to bring its carriers to bear in the Mediterranean. They managed to sink a large part of my convoys and submarine flotillas, until I caught them stopping for repairs in Malta and sunk two out of the three CVs using NAVs.
Now it's January 1943. I have puppeted Iraq, captured Malta and Gibraltar and I'm in the process of reducing the starved beachhead created during Operation Torch. The Sovient Union declared war on Germany in August, and I've tried to help my fellow Axis partner the best I've been able to. I have carried out amphibious landings on Odessa and Crimea and managed to establish solild footholds while I wait for Germany to link up.
I'm unsure wether to call Hungary, Romania and Finland to war by this point. Are they usefull allies? Or will they be a burden? I'm particularly worried about Finland since the soviets seem to have an armored division in Hanko.
In the bizarro-version of WW2, Finland is a burden and Italy is not.
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In the bizarro-version of WW2, Finland is a burden and Italy is not.
As wierd as it might seem, Italy can greatly change the course of the war... in the Pacific. If you are playing as Italy and stand up against the Royal Navy, you are unburdening Japan, which leads to them going apeshit in the Pacific:
(https://s24.postimg.org/o59y9laep/Ho_I3_1.png) (https://postimg.org/image/o59y9laep/)
(https://s24.postimg.org/iidlc47w1/Ho_I3_2.png) (https://postimg.org/image/iidlc47w1/)