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Re: [Operation Bodenplatte] Dogfight Map Suggestion.
« Reply #30 on: 14-06-2011, 20:06:54 »
Bf-109 already have proper armament, but with addition of other BoB planes...that would be awesome! Or maybe some 1942 dogfights over channel. Spit Mk. Vb is already in, and FW-190 A8 can be remade for some earlier variant. I will keep dreaming  ;D
There where still a bunch of D and E Me 109's wich had the old armament of 2 x 7.92mm MG15 and 15mm MG151/20

Im almost sure that earliest version of Bf-109 in Battle of Britain was E3 which had same armament as current ingame Messerschmitt
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Re: [Operation Bodenplatte] Dogfight Map Suggestion.
« Reply #31 on: 14-06-2011, 20:06:33 »
Bf-109 already have proper armament, but with addition of other BoB planes...that would be awesome! Or maybe some 1942 dogfights over channel. Spit Mk. Vb is already in, and FW-190 A8 can be remade for some earlier variant. I will keep dreaming  ;D
There where still a bunch of D and E Me 109's wich had the old armament of 2 x 7.92mm MG15 and 15mm MG151/20

Im almost sure that earliest version of Bf-109 in Battle of Britain was E3 which had same armament as current ingame Messerschmitt
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The E-3 was replaced by the E-4 (with many airframes being upgraded to E-4 standards starting at the beginning of the Battle of Britain) which was different in some small details, most notably by using the modified 20 mm MG-FF/M wing cannon and having improved head armor for the pilot

The update to E-4 started at the beginning of BoB.

The types used in the BoB=
Bf 109 E-1, E-1/B
Bf 109 E-3
Bf 109 E-4, E-4/B, E-4/N
Bf 109 E-7, E-7/N
Bf 109 F-1


So even a F-4 with removed wing cannons can be used at late BoB maps(In small numbers though)
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Re: [Operation Bodenplatte] Dogfight Map Suggestion.
« Reply #32 on: 14-06-2011, 20:06:06 »
15mm cannon wasn't used until the F-2, so no, that wouldn't be in.

The D type was used, using only 4 MGs, but most were phased out by then.  THe most common were the E-2/E-3 type, with either two 20mm, or 3 20mm.

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Re: [Operation Bodenplatte] Dogfight Map Suggestion.
« Reply #33 on: 14-06-2011, 20:06:54 »
ooh

would be still awesome to see one or 2 ME109's with 4 MG17's  ;D
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Re: [Operation Bodenplatte] Dogfight Map Suggestion.
« Reply #34 on: 14-06-2011, 21:06:19 »
What Mudra said, plus the Emil variants used MG FF instead of MG 151 as the 20mm cannon :P

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« Reply #35 on: 14-06-2011, 21:06:04 »
What Mudra said, plus the Emil variants used MG FF instead of MG 151 as the 20mm cannon :P
unless we can introduce "Reliability" problems

there wont be much diffrence amiright?  ;)

Edit=Oh wait, slower muzzle velocity, smaller drum magazines and slower ROF
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Re: [Operation Bodenplatte] Dogfight Map Suggestion.
« Reply #36 on: 15-06-2011, 00:06:44 »
Yep,  Plus the MG-FF used thicker shelled cannon shells that packed far less explosive punch.  The Me110 meanwhile was armed with the MG-FF/M, which provided the Minengeschoß rounds, which almost tripled the explosive power.

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Re: [Operation Bodenplatte] Dogfight Map Suggestion.
« Reply #37 on: 15-06-2011, 16:06:20 »
Yep,  Plus the MG-FF used thicker shelled cannon shells that packed far less explosive punch.  The Me110 meanwhile was armed with the MG-FF/M, which provided the Minengeschoß rounds, which almost tripled the explosive power.
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Re: [Operation Bodenplatte] Dogfight Map Suggestion.
« Reply #38 on: 16-06-2011, 14:06:35 »
would be cool if that map could be combinated with objectives (like the destruction of the 155mm guns on PDH).
the germans would need to attack the airfields with some static planes on the ground. -The destruction of those airfields and aircraft on the ground was the objective of operation bodenplatte.
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