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Announcements => Announcements => Topic started by: azreal on 16-01-2011, 17:01:16
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Coming in one hour exactly.
Not a Step Backwards
I think you guys will enjoy today's update. And yes, this is the day of the special announcement if you didn't know already. Enjoy!
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/main.php?module=news&lang=english
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Not one step backwards
could it be?
No way, if this is it, ill get a frakking heartattack!!!
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I have something in mind - Winterkrieg ;)
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Mauses, B1 Bis's and MOAR Italians?!?!?!? COULD THEIR BE MORE WIN?
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Oh look guys, I'm walking backwards
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs43/f/2009/104/a/d/CvR_Andrew_Walking_Backwards_by_Andrew_the_Hedgehog.gif)
and just what are you going to do about it?
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This is one small step for a dev, one giant leap backwards for FH2...
....wait, what?
‘Not One Step Back’ was officially Order Number 227 issued by the Soviet High Command and signed by Joseph Stalin on July 28th, 1942. ‘Not One Step Back’ was issued in direct response to Stalin’s correct belief that the Nazi’s ‘Operation Blue’ would target Stalingrad. The order was distributed to every unit in the Russian armed forces and read out to all troops.
EDIT: MOAR http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_No._227
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"Not a Step Backward" It have to do something with Russia. Stalin put commissars behind his troops to ensure nobody isnt going to flee from killing fields... too far I presume ;D
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But also something simular by the french
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_shall_not_pass
*prays its french hope*prays its french hope
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Devs will never stop working on FH as long as there is something called PC :D ;D
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or until something much worse happens
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Heart attack is imminent. Will it be..? Can it be...? Eastern Front?
*faints*
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the soviets are coming
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very significant news?
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the soviets are coming
The Pandas are coming...
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the soviets are coming
The Pandas are coming...
LIES!
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I tbh am hoping a bit more for frenchies then ruskis :)
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dawns rain coat...
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bricks shat :o
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Bah... weren´t we all expecting this?
FUCK YEAH!
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Soyuz nerushimy respublik svobodnykh
Splotila naveki velikaya Rus'!
Da zdravstvuyet sozdanny voley narodov
Yediny, moguchy Sovetsky Soyuz!
Slav'sya, Otechestvo nashe svobodnoye,
Druzhby narodov nadyozhny oplot!
Partiya Lenina — sila narodnaya
Nas k torzhestvu kommunizma vedyot!
fh2 goes to MOTHER RUSSIA! And already comes 2 of my favorite Russian vehicles=KV-1s and SU152!!
ALL DO STANDING FOR GLORIOUS ANTHEM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dt7VjkRSb4
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Nice, Eastern Front. Mid to late war, I guess? Maybe Op. Zitadelle?
The tanks are cool and the screenshots nice, too. Too bad we didn´t get a rough time specification, though.
Not as epic as I thought, but cool, nonetheless.
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Bah... weren´t we all expecting this?
I can delete it all if you'd like? ;)
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just this
(http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/6869/excellent2.jpg)
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This is truly awesome. I am so looking forward to the Soviet artillery and Anti-aircraft artillery.
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would be interesting to know how much stuff they got when they tell us that they worked over months.
Pretty sure the first maps are half way done. Inf stuff and units done too. ^^
thank you guys!
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Haha, not quite..
Do mind that we've got a whole lot of Bulge to go through first:P ;)
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sure, ;D and now we will see every week one weapon of russian till we get started with them ;D
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btw, Theta, it wasn't axis-biased now was it!?
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Ok I was afraid that our big 'reward' for MODB, would just be an official announcement for the Ardennes. I don't know why I had such evil thoughts about the devs, but there it is.
But instead we get Russia! I love it. Of course I won't be truly happy until I see a Katyusha. (And I won't be truly bemused until I see someone in game decide that this truck full of rockets would be a good way to drive to the enemy.)
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Time to bring back...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laakTB6d43I
(http://www.russiablog.org/VictoryDayVeteran.jpg)
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Awesome! Looking forward to many Bulge & Eastern Front updates in the near future!
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soviet russia.. hmm.. M4A3E8 over KV1? or other way around? hmmm decisions decisions..
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So many new eapons are going to come, new maps, news soldier models, new skins.
O and the BotB ofc.
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Great news and nice new wallpaper! thanks devs cant wait for the Eastern front :D
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OH HELL YEAH. Much love devs. A beautiful winter wonderland just over the horizon, and a terrible winter hell after that. Cant wait. :D
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RUSSIA!!!!
cant wait for an stalingrad map =D
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In general:
Well to be honest I expected more. Like a release date of bulge for example. ;)
It was mentioned you would make an announcement you wouldn't make otherwise...I can't imagine this.
Don't get me wrong I appreciate you're work very much but this time you produced too many expectations. :P
Nonetheless I'm looking forward to playing it when it then will come in a year or so. ;D
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Great update time for the defense (and attack) of Mother Russia! ;D
But i have a question...How "Complete" are these vehicles? I mean is this their final skin ? Because honestly it looks (like many stuff ingame) too clean...I'd expect vehicles in Eastern front to be ... Hardened :)
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I'm never happier than when I'm in a very big, heavy, noisy, smelly Russian tank. Hopefully the Russians will be cursing profusely in their native language as well. And there's got to be a vodka bottle somewhere in there as well ? As always, thanks FH team !
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Союз нерушимый республик свободных
Сплотила навеки Великая Русь!
Да здравствует созданный волей народов
Единый, могучий Советский Союз!
Славься, Отечество наше свободное
Дружбы народов надёжный оплот!
Знамя советское, знамя народное
Пусть от победы к победе ведёт!
Сквозь грозы сияло нам солнце свободы,
И Ленин великий нам путь озарил:
Нас вырастил Сталин — на верность народу,
На труд и на подвиги нас вдохновил!
Славься, Отечество…
Мы армию нашу растили в сраженьях.
Захватчиков подлых с дороги сметём!
Мы в битвах решаем судьбу поколений,
Мы к славе Отчизну свою поведём!
Славься, Отечество…
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Russian stealth tanks; sneaking behind infantry near you.
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Awesome, the soviets!! :D (I wonder if soviet vehicles will be easy to make compared to germans, americans or british)
Very cool pics of "Wacht am Rhein" too!! (the first one could be the Meuse river?) and nice wallpaper FatJoe!!
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Can't wait for a Bulge/Russian tournament campaign.. ohhh...
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Holy shit I just wet my pants with excitement! Thank you dev's!!!!!! Keep up the good work!
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hehe guys, calm down ;D
we are working on Bulge, where we have some new maps/weapons/settings etc. save your anticipation for the coming stuff. Russia is a bit away ;)
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nice, a new front! ;D
but i do hope the devs start with making the early eastfront, 41
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I wonder when this BotB will be released..... considering they've only just announced it (officially anyway) keeps me kinda cool when I think about actual date/month. ;)
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Checked out the FH2 website and I....
(http://operatorchan.org/k/arch/src/k121908_jizzinmypants.jpg) :D
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Nice update, I do like the convertion of the KV-IS into the SU-152, pretty clever use of different parts of the KV turret :)
And the textures are as usual, pretty detailed. I especially like the tracks. I have some Soviet tanks models at home, and the tracks look the same on them. I hope TrahnLee aka Gunnie (or whoever will export/code this vehicle) will find the good values for the track UV animations, would be a shame to waste ingame such a nice texture :P
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RUSSIAN bias this time! ;D Good work devs! screenshots of maps look brilliant! But I expected some kind of info about time of releasing next patch... ::)
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Nice update, I do like the convertion of the KV-IS into the SU-152, pretty clever use of different parts of the KV turret :)
Soviet engineering ^^
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Well, if the devs make SU85 for example, you already have SU 122
Got ISU 152? ok we also have ISU 122.
T34 and T34 85 also look much alike minus turret and fuel tanks
Not to mention Su 76 and the soviet light tanks
What a coincidence now that i orderd a USSR flag yesterday
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:o
Love this news :)
Fatjoe you did a great job with the wallpaper.
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I should add that the wallpaper was made from actual 3d models...
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Hey azreal, awesome update :P
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(http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/4201/wootcopy.jpg) (http://img840.imageshack.us/i/wootcopy.jpg/)
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Very very nice ;D
Is this the big announcement they promised us? Or is their more big news coming this way?
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first page ^
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After a moment of
thinking fapping, I paused.
After all the information on changelog, and having seen Kuuterselkä and Crimea 1944 on rotation on the test server long time ago, THIS was the "special" announcement?
I was rather expecting something that had not been published or shown in any form or shape. :-\
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Azreal, can you please say more clearly, it was an ordinary (sorry: weekly) update or special announcement?
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this was the special update promised if we get 1st on MOTY.
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this was the special update promised if we get 1st on MOTY.
clear as day. Let me explain...
We are trying to open up FH2 to more content now that we have a solid base (Africa & Normandy). We decided to start working on the Russian front. We decided that this was the most promising thing we had to show off as a prize for taking a spot in the top of the MOTY.
Had we NOT won, you probably wouldn't have seen this for...another 6 months to a year. Some of you already knew this was coming, and I apologize for those who feel 'let down', but overall I think in the long run many of you will be happy that we made this announcement now. Look at the suggestion forum, and see how many people suggest a new front such as the Ostfront. Now I can throw in a Russian render every once and a while, instead of just doing re-skinned US/Ger tanks for the Bulge. Many people have called us lazy, but in reality, we've been working our asses of behind the scenes to do stuff like this.
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Wich crazy fool has called you FH2 devs lazy.....
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Is there an ETA for the next patch? That'd be sex :D
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Some people are all the time not contendend.
We got reskins for Panthers: thats all -.-
We got skins for Wehrmacht: thats all, where is US, we want maps -.-
We got Russian front + skins + bulge maps: what thats all -.-
Just ignore them. The quiter the devs are the more they work :)
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Well i think it was a fantastic update.
You guys have proven that you know what your doing & if it takes awhile to get it right, then im sure many here will agree to be more patient and wait for a more polished product.
Azreal, if you will answer my 3 questions, i will run away and you wont here a peep;
1 - Will we see "The Bulge Patch" before March 2011
2 - Will we see the 1st "Eastern Front Patch" in 2011
3 - Will we see any more Normandy add-on maps in 2011
8)
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1. no idea
2. I hope
3. yes
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this was the special update promised if we get 1st on MOTY.
clear as day. Let me explain...
We are trying to open up FH2 to more content now that we have a solid base (Africa & Normandy). We decided to start working on the Russian front. We decided that this was the most promising thing we had to show off as a prize for taking a spot in the top of the MOTY.
Had we NOT won, you probably wouldn't have seen this for...another 6 months to a year. Some of you already knew this was coming, and I apologize for those who feel 'let down', but overall I think in the long run many of you will be happy that we made this announcement now. Look at the suggestion forum, and see how many people suggest a new front such as the Ostfront. Now I can throw in a Russian render every once and a while, instead of just doing re-skinned US/Ger tanks for the Bulge. Many people have called us lazy, but in reality, we've been working our asses of behind the scenes to do stuff like this.
there are some more things besides reskinned stuffings.. like the M4A3E8 or the M4A3 76( with out E8) sherman 105.... annoucement of tank overhaul or american planes being fixed to dogfight better.. but thats jsut me. lol.. yea i complain.. i love the update.. but i also forgot the ruskies used churchills, valintines and M4A2s! woot! lend lease stuff for the win!...
also.. i was really hoping to see panzer 4's with the turret skirt only! .. or perhaps wire mesh skits.. think both those saw more on the east front then west.
love the update.. KV1 FTW
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Awesome work guys ;D
The Russian theater will add so many people to this great mod.
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Would be cool of soviets wouldn't be able to spot from tanks like Germans and western allies can because of the lack of the radio. 8)
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Should be something on early war soviet tanks, but T34's and KV's where standard equipped with radio's...
WAIT
IF we has eastfront! Means we has FINNES?
*brings out his M91/27
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*and does what exactly?*
anyway, once we get T34 maps it's gonna be killwhore fest for the soviets
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*and does what exactly?*
anyway, once we get T34 maps it's gonna be killwhore fest for the soviets
Enter the 88 Flak Gun......
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nice update :D
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The russians are so powerfull!! ;-) you guys have no ider whats comming.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs
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The russians are so powerfull!! ;-) you guys have no ider whats comming.
Meh, give me a break. I'm still sitting,like a dummy, after "announcement"...
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Russian update is awesome. Dreams of Stuka diving big fat Russian tanks and the Katyusha oh my the Katyusha ...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SLvtP6KMUM
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+1 for thread name change ;D
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Yet ppl like djinn didn't notice it (if I got his post in conspiracy theories right) :D
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Should be something on early war soviet tanks, but T34's and KV's where standard equipped with radio's...
WAIT
IF we has eastfront! Means we has FINNES?
*brings out his M91/27
And Hungary!But I believe third parties will have to work on both,FH2 team will focus on the standard eastern front.
BTW,what you guys made with the models that were made by the FinnWars dudes?
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and the awesome italy expedition corps <3
(http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/Italy/Ita-T34-RickMente.jpg)
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Should be something on early war soviet tanks, but T34's and KV's where standard equipped with radio's...
WAIT
IF we has eastfront! Means we has FINNES?
*brings out his M91/27
And Hungary!But I believe third parties will have to work on both,FH2 team will focus on the standard eastern front.
BTW,what you guys made with the models that were made by the FinnWars dudes?
Finland at War, you mean. And have you seen the change-log? :P
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Thanks developers for the best news. Russian fans celebrate Ура!!! ;D
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Should be something on early war soviet tanks, but T34's and KV's where standard equipped with radio's...
WAIT
IF we has eastfront! Means we has FINNES?
*brings out his M91/27
And Hungary!But I believe third parties will have to work on both,FH2 team will focus on the standard eastern front.
BTW,what you guys made with the models that were made by the FinnWars dudes?
Finland at War, you mean. And have you seen the change-log? :P
oooh...my...
MY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_WI0VI7aIw#t=0m10s
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:( unfortunately their model didn't fit to fh2 (for some reasons front polys of the models were deleted ).
But do not worry, creating content isn't the hardest part of FH2.
Getting nice and playable map is however.
Should be something on early war soviet tanks, but T34's and KV's where standard equipped with radio's...
WAIT
IF we has eastfront! Means we has FINNES?
*brings out his M91/27
And Hungary!But I believe third parties will have to work on both,FH2 team will focus on the standard eastern front.
BTW,what you guys made with the models that were made by the FinnWars dudes?
Finland at War, you mean. And have you seen the change-log? :P
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Hooray for Bulge! Double Hooray for Russian front!! Some of my favorite FH1 maps are east front; Seelow Heights, Berlin Streets, and Pavlov's house(which I just played last night on pixelfighter :-).
Anyone following these forums knew Bulge was coming next. The real 'news' here(for me at least) is the eastern front. I am so glad they're going on to that before pacific. Mainly because I personally believe whatever front they do next(not counting Bulge which is an expansion of Normandy/West front) will probably, realistically be the last one done for the mod. Bulge would have to be at least one if not two releases and then Russia would take at least a couple releases after that. Given the development timetable so far, all these releases will take the next 1 1/2 to 2 years, and BF2 is already a 5 1/2 year old game engine.
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@Antrax
Concerning the ongoing game-politics there won't be any modable games in the future, but RO2.
So BF3 will probably not be modable and so the only BF game which is modable is BF2. Hopefully this mod last long enough to see the pacific...
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I checked the mainpage one last time, not expecting much a Sunday evening.
Then, in the corner of my eye.
"Russian green?"
Followed by a minute of squealing.
The Russians at last!
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and BF2 is already a 5 1/2 year old game engine.
So what ?
. Hopefully this mod last long enough to see the pacific...
Yup I hope to see it too and I have great faith about it.
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and BF2 is already a 5 1/2 year old game engine.
not really a problem.
like Revoluzer said, it's the gamepolitics of many distributors or even devs themselves that won't allow FH2 devs to move on to another engine if they wanted to make something at least slightly similar to what FH2 is. (non-existing) mod support and engines not built for this. ok, I heard about those mods for Crysis and ArmA 2 but I just don't see a reason to move to another engine just because the game is "old"... because whenever they just move to another engine, most of their work would have to be done from sratch I believe and it would take just another couple of years to get one theater with a reasonable number of maps - but you could already call the game "old". Tbh, there is a difference between a game being old in 2000, game being old in 2005 and a game being 'old' in 2010 since the graphics are improving vastly and there's still less and less difference when it comes to the visual quality with each new title. And FH2 does look beautiful - that is when you play on high settings.
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As long as the game itself is great I don´t care for it´s age. Hell, I even played C&C2 half a year ago again, because it´s fun.
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As long as the game itself is great I don´t care for it´s age. Hell, I even played C&C2 half a year ago again, because it´s fun.
Yup, like a play jedi outcast
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and BF2 is already a 5 1/2 year old game engine.
not really a problem.
like Revoluzer said, it's the gamepolitics of many distributors or even devs themselves that won't allow FH2 devs to move on to another engine if they wanted to make something at least slightly similar to what FH2 is. (non-existing) mod support and engines not built for this. ok, I heard about those mods for Crysis and ArmA 2 but I just don't see a reason to move to another engine just because the game is "old"... because whenever they just move to another engine, most of their work would have to be done from sratch I believe and it would take just another couple of years to get one theater with a reasonable number of maps - but you could already call the game "old". Tbh, there is a difference between a game being old in 2000, game being old in 2005 and a game being 'old' in 2010 since the graphics are improving vastly and there's still less and less difference when it comes to the visual quality with each new title. And FH2 does look beautiful - that is when you play on high settings.
id move to frostbite if a chance was given.. with more than 64 players and better graphics, effects and destroyable terrain
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCFibtD3H_k
Työn orjat, sorron yöstä nouskaa, maan ääriin kuuluu kutsumus.
Nyt ryskyin murtuu pakkovalta, tää on viime ponnistus!
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and BF2 is already a 5 1/2 year old game engine.
not really a problem.
like Revoluzer said, it's the gamepolitics of many distributors or even devs themselves that won't allow FH2 devs to move on to another engine if they wanted to make something at least slightly similar to what FH2 is. (non-existing) mod support and engines not built for this. ok, I heard about those mods for Crysis and ArmA 2 but I just don't see a reason to move to another engine just because the game is "old"... because whenever they just move to another engine, most of their work would have to be done from sratch I believe and it would take just another couple of years to get one theater with a reasonable number of maps - but you could already call the game "old". Tbh, there is a difference between a game being old in 2000, game being old in 2005 and a game being 'old' in 2010 since the graphics are improving vastly and there's still less and less difference when it comes to the visual quality with each new title. And FH2 does look beautiful - that is when you play on high settings.
id move to frostbite if a chance was given.. with more than 64 players and better graphics, effects and destroyable terrain
Ok them, move to it, but the dev team will not move there if it didnt have moddable tool or Fh2 interest.
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and BF2 is already a 5 1/2 year old game engine.
not really a problem.
like Revoluzer said, it's the gamepolitics of many distributors or even devs themselves that won't allow FH2 devs to move on to another engine if they wanted to make something at least slightly similar to what FH2 is. (non-existing) mod support and engines not built for this. ok, I heard about those mods for Crysis and ArmA 2 but I just don't see a reason to move to another engine just because the game is "old"... because whenever they just move to another engine, most of their work would have to be done from sratch I believe and it would take just another couple of years to get one theater with a reasonable number of maps - but you could already call the game "old". Tbh, there is a difference between a game being old in 2000, game being old in 2005 and a game being 'old' in 2010 since the graphics are improving vastly and there's still less and less difference when it comes to the visual quality with each new title. And FH2 does look beautiful - that is when you play on high settings.
id move to frostbite if a chance was given.. with more than 64 players and better graphics, effects and destroyable terrain
Ok them, move to it, but the dev team will not move there if it didnt have moddable tool or Fh2 interest.
given.. this is why we wait and see for bf3.. fingers crossed but i forgotten hope with EA
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Even if had everything, I hope they will continue Fh2. Why, we should need Fh3 ? Fh2 need some change and I know dev do their job so Fh2 will continue is road to perfection, but Fh3 would be a wasted of time, wasted of work, wasted of everything.
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Freaking awesome :)
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Holy shit dude, really coold addition. I want to start killing T34's!
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Didnt even know till now that there was a christmas update. I'm so used to them coming up in the general discussion forum :-/
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Beautiful! Simply beautiful! Woohooo! :D Russia here we come!!!
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I was rather expecting something that had not been published or shown in any form or shape. :-\
We know... but there is quite a difference between trainspotting some map on a server-listing site, than to publicly announce something :) We wanted this announcement to go out to everyone, and I am sure 99.9% of the visitors on FH2 website, didn't know about our future plans.
The fact that we won MOTY injected some motivation in to our devteam, and this announcement is made out of 100% love and gratification to all people who have been playing FH2 for the last three years.
I think most of all, this announcement can be seen as a proof of commitment from us, that we will continue updating the mod as long as we have players that make it all worthwhile :)
~Thank you all~
Secondly, the test server runs many weird maps, don't take those as "published" facts about what we work on. ;D
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Put that way, that does make it that special. I for one was feeling blue, that I had seen the best of fh2 - thanks for the reassurance.
Ok, you noobs, start suggesting the obvious things like T34s, MIGs and katyushas :-D
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I for one cant wait to use the 152 mm HE rounds that the beast killer can use, curently ingame the biggest boom or explosion i recall is the Arty 105 mm round, so compared to the 152 mm HE omg BIG BOOM! :P :P :P :P :P wiping up the drooling under my chin.
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no the biggest boom is an exploding wasp carrier :D
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bingo! Those explosions need to have a larger physical explosion and not just a larger kill radius. we need to see shockwaves, baby! Refering to the SU thing's blast radius, not the wasp
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Eastern Front!!!
Me wants it now! ;D
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and BF2 is already a 5 1/2 year old game engine.
yet... our player numbers rise with every patch
And PR's player numbers also
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Whenever I switch game from this to say, Modern warfare 2, I note a couple of things:
1/How pretty COD looks,
2/How interesting the various deaths look,
3/The storyline,
and regarding Fh2
1/How pretty FH2 looks, and the effects that make me feel the pressure of warfare eg. suppression etc,
2/How effective its sound is in convincing me of the various feedbacks eg. that fact that I'm being shot at, say,
3/How great the gameplay is, and how much I feel proud of each kill,
4/How satisfying many deaths feel when I put in a good hit,
5/How I have no game with better game-play and a sense that I am the master of my fate (And I have games from Lemmings to Black Ops and BC2)
Now it may be a 6 year old engine, but frankly, I don't see good reason to switch a damn thing. Its all coloured bubbles really, this whole new engine... blabla bla... We want tanks to blow up in THIS way, we want planes to spiral out of control, we want decaptutions, we want Germans to fricking jump out from fricking wardropes... Its all coloured bubbles.
We're still discovering new ways to improve game-play and explore more options with this engine. I still play Unreal tournament 1, and am loathe to play Unreal tournament 3. Why? Because I feel Unreal Tournament has better gameplay. GAME-PLAY. It doesn't come with graphics, level destruction or engine toys, it comes from simple mechanics like feedback, control sensitivity and how the game mechanics work together.
if it eint broke, why fix it.
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Let me put it is this way
If i look at todays games i see=
Good graphics ragdolls animations and such.. but oh wait, always the same content.. and less and less content
When i see FH2 i see=
hundreds of weapons, nations, tanks, apcs, jeeps, trucks,Artillery, AA guns, anti tank guns, planes and more fighting eachother on over 30 high quality maps
I see a fine combination of historical accuracy, gameplay, fun and realism
I see a fine mature community.
Sorry but FH2 has hundreds of things what todays games have. Todays games are all about BLING and shine and few on Gameplay, content, fun and the good old roots of online gaming.
i am NOT saying this is with all videogames.
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Even though most will agree it was time to move from BF42 to BF2, with such things as ironsights, smarter bots, etc, etc... We also lost alot. The engine was not made for the scope of FH, or WW2 for that matter - Yet, we have made good with it... do you really want us to move to a new engine and find out that we can't even have aircrafts, say.... Or vehicles?
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*gasp* Eastern Front!
AWESOME, thanks guys... 8)
Off-topic: I honestly can't imagine what the shift to a new engine would have to offer that would be worth the price of having to start the mod from scratch again... :-\
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Off-topic: I honestly can't imagine what the shift to a new engine would have to offer that would be worth the price of having to start the mod from scratch again... :-\
Hear, hear
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Very nice update, Haven't playing lately because i was frustrated by my sub standard pc.
There is one quetion that is burning on my lips: Did the defs got some of their models fromthe BGF mod? Because that would speed things up alot. Even if you have to do things over for quality sake.
Still hoping to see their tank system ingame.
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I hope not because those things lacked low resolution detail. At low res, some tanks were made up of triangles. Besides, it was clearly stated that it was designed by Toddel, with no mention of a BGF dev.
I think I can answer in the negative to that question.
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Very nice update, Haven't playing lately because i was frustrated by my sub standard pc.
There is one quetion that is burning on my lips: Did the defs got some of their models fromthe BGF mod? Because that would speed things up alot. Even if you have to do things over for quality sake.
Still hoping to see their tank system ingame.
As said before by Seth Soldier, creating models/textures isn't such a hard job, the other things like creating a playable map and a believable evironment + coding all the stuff is the real hard job.
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I´d loved to see an announcement regarding possible changes of the infantry and tank combat systems, but the announcement of the Eastern Front is good, too. Hopefully we´ll se regular news updates, showing off new Eastern Front equipment.
Btw, what time period will be covered with the first EF release? I guess mid-war (maybe even Op. Zitadelle?) but was there an official statement, already?
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I planted this evil seed about tank and infantry systems - My apologies, devs. Its all propaganda.
Sure, it was always a concern, but not one that invaded every recent thread...
From 'Altered: Tank combat system'
Yepp, tanking can be more fun, and we're working on that. 8)
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I swear, ghana is trying to take over the world!
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Darn it, you caught us. That's why we can't commit troops to Ivory Coast. We're deploying 'else where'
Ok, I take your point. I will hush up now
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That update was graet win! ;D
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Forget what I said about game engines and all that jazz in my earlier post. I guess I was just looking at it from the perspective of the past and how after a few years of development on the bf1942 engine the devs went to BF2. I just didn't realize that the situation today was different in that regard as far as upcoming games not being moddable(which is kind of a bummer as far as the long term outlook for mods) and other factors such as not representing enough of an improvement over bf2 to be worth the pain in the ass of restarting things again. Besides...yeah...you devs do have Crazy skills in terms of getting the most out of this engine that seems humanly possible. I mean things like the vegetation in FH2 compared to in vanilla BF2...holy crap. So long since I played vanilla that I'd forgotten about that ;-)
Killer update and those upcoming west front snow battles should be very nice. Praying for a remake of Nordwind ;D
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Forget what I said about game engines and all that jazz in my earlier post. I guess I was just looking at it from the perspective of the past and how after a few years of development on the bf1942 engine the devs went to BF2. I just didn't realize that the situation today was different in that regard as far as upcoming games not being moddable(which is kind of a bummer as far as the long term outlook for mods) and other factors such as not representing enough of an improvement over bf2 to be worth the pain in the ass of restarting things again. Besides...yeah...you devs do have Crazy skills in terms of getting the most out of this engine that seems humanly possible. I mean things like the vegetation in FH2 compared to in vanilla BF2...holy crap. So long since I played vanilla that I'd forgotten about that ;-)
Killer update and those upcoming west front snow battles should be very nice. Praying for a remake of Nordwind ;D
DATS da way to do it!
Now you are one of us
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when exactly is the patch going to become available?
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when exactly is the patch going to become available?
Nobody knows, not even the devs.
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when exactly is the patch going to become available?
Believe me, it will be announced.
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Exactly when its done.
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Constipation is a **** ain't it, I bet we all feel better now ;D
Wonderful news with nice Bulge renders! Love the wallpaper.
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HOLY MOTHER---!
Guys, seriously, when I saw this, I fainted. I can't describe the excitement I have for this. No, no, that is not even possible. I only have two words for you - Thank You.
Looking forward to both the Ostfront AND the Battle of the Bulge.
Just to give way for a little speculation; I know it doesn't mean much, given the grand scale both in physical and time aspects of the Eastern Front, but my infallible sixth sense is whispering "Zitadelle" after looking at the shown vehicles...
But I ain't fully satisfied.... Where's mah Ferdinand TD, bitch?! ;D [j/k]
Keep up the excellent work devs, it seems very much like the best is yet to come.
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Wooohaa!!
When I read the update name when i loaded the websitepage i just unplugged all the cables on my laptop and went to the toilet and took a crap while reading the update!
true roflmao
Amazing update!! This totaly blew me away!! Great work Toddel and you guys!!
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You know what I miss about the old days, when people looked into pics to see what was there...
Like the T34/85 and the mystery plane dropping bombs on the hanomag in the distance....
And all the pretty houses and trees
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Good eyes, Djinn!
Btw, what type are those German tanks? The taking a hit slightly looks like a Hetzer, but I´m not sure.
Picture analysis, now! (http://images.bf-games.net/news/2011/01/10018_8.jpg) :D
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this
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/vehicles/StuG%2040%20Ausf.%20G%20(early)/big.jpg)
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and both mystery planes are stukas, you can see by the closer one. Why bombing the pretty hanomag I don't know...
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Hell yeah!! Best news update ever! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91kdwxFsthI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91kdwxFsthI) For Mother Russia! :D
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What I particular like about the picture is the arti-ness of it... Its like the North African one.
I always wished there'd be one for Normandy and the Bulge, but this is a welcome return to that..
All else is this
http://www.moddb.com/mods/forgotten-hope-2/images/normandy
, which isn't quite arty enough...*hint, hint, need more.. cough, cough*
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Just wanted to say: I KNEW IT! It had to be the Eastern Front next. I can't wait for those Mosin-Nagant renders....mmmm.
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With the speed of the Boys rifle made more real unlike Fh1's forced slow version, I am actually very excited about the rare PTRS when it gets in.. And since we're talking about light armor, the Panzer38t. I loved that baby bird :-)
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Very nice update, Haven't playing lately because i was frustrated by my sub standard pc.
There is one quetion that is burning on my lips: Did the defs got some of their models fromthe BGF mod? Because that would speed things up alot. Even if you have to do things over for quality sake.
Still hoping to see their tank system ingame.
Stuff like this would be very useful indeed:
http://www.moddb.com/mods/battlegroup-frontlines/images/1#imagebox
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Statics and models aren't the problem, it's the mapping and the coding that takes the longest time iirc.
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Statics and models aren't the problem, it's the mapping and the coding that takes the longest time iirc.
I had always thought that starting a new theatre would require a number of houses,trees,objects...to start maping properly
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I had always thought that starting a new theatre would require a number of houses,trees,objects...to start maping properly
Right you are, but the time it takes to create a map is the main time consuming factor in this equation and not the models, which some of devs seem to just 'shake out of their sleeves'. It's as if they have their own little slave workers in their basements. You can't imagine the speed with which they produce their models. ^^
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Tell us!
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some of them are >----------------------------------------------------------------< -this fast
but seriously
lost of stuff is already done it is just not shown yet. and as N24 said mostly the mapping takes up the "longest" time in creating a new theater. sure there are some models (player models especially) that also need a long time to get them done right but then they can be used on many maps, same with statics, weapons, vehicles but the maps are always done from scratch (well mostly ^^). for those peeking at the maps run on the test server you see that some of the maps there are in "testing phase" for some months now while many others havent reached that phase yet.
the focus right now is bulge and only once that is done we are gonna get going full speed on eastern front (i guess) but the mappers might have already started with their eastern front maps, who knows.
anyways, snow is awesome hurray for german camouflage and panzerfaust 60 :D for some long range tank killing against those pesky shermans.
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ZOMDOFSDOMFOSDLFSMKLGJKAZZZZAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
*HEAD EXPLODE*
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*HEAD EXPLODE (REPRISE)*
AHAHAHAHA YES!
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Whew. Okay, that was intense. HOLY SHIT EASTERN FRONT!
*HEAD EXPLODE*
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the mappers might have already started with their eastern front maps, who knows.
Hurr, Kuuterselkä & Crimea 1944 durr.
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Well good that you didn't see all of them.
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Ts4EVER is the wisdom on earth. You shall listen to him ;)
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and both mystery planes are stukas, you can see by the closer one. Why bombing the pretty hanomag I don't know...
That 251 and it's treacherous crew tried to retreat. They had it coming.
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I heard that Russian troops sometimes had captured vehicles at the front of their convoys to confuse the Germans. Perhaps that Stuka knew what's up.
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I heard that Russian troops sometimes had captured vehicles at the front of their convoys to confuse the Germans. Perhaps that Stuka knew what's up.
Bullshit, SdKfz 251 number 163 had clear orders, scout ahead and transmit the size of the enemy formations to HQ, then move around the tanks and pick off any Russian infantry that tries to sneak pass. Instead they went back to HQ after reporting, so mr. Galland and his Stuka came to aid.
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Can some of you beta testers help me identify the map screenshots for the Bulge Patch?
1. (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/110117x/map01.gif)
Foy?
2. (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/110117x/map02.gif)
Battle Of The Bulge?
3. (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/110117x/map03.gif)
Vossenack?
4. (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/110117x/map04.gif)
Hurtgen Forrest?
Also, how many total maps can we expect in the next patch?
???
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Even though most will agree it was time to move from BF42 to BF2, with such things as ironsights, smarter bots, etc, etc... We also lost alot. The engine was not made for the scope of FH, or WW2 for that matter - Yet, we have made good with it... do you really want us to move to a new engine and find out that we can't even have aircrafts, say.... Or vehicles?
i am going to fire back that frost bite would permit aircraft.. BF1943.. just saying. XP
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Can some of you beta testers help me identify the map screenshots for the Bulge Patch?
No. We simply cant.
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Oh Pacific, where are thou?
Anyways, nice update!
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Can some of you beta testers help me identify the map screenshots for the Bulge Patch?
They can't. There are rules you know. ;)
I can, but I'm not going to. Those shots are all Work in Progress. We're simply letting you know we are working on stuff by showing these screenshots. You'll find out which maps are which when we make newsupdates about them.
Also, how many total maps can we expect in the next patch?
We aren't at the stage in development yet where we can say anything about the contents of the next patch.
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Could you add a section for the Soviets on the Homepage in the vehicle tab and add those 2 tanks?
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Ok, so I am not asking because I want to rush anything, But in the news update, it was mentioned that the work process was going faster. Appreciated, there are 2 theaters being worked on at the same time, however, its been 6 months since the last release... that's aprox. twice as long as other releases, and with us not being close enough to know how many maps there are... Well,... how fast is faster here?
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That's cause this is another theater per-say. In the last few patches we've only released maps and a few new vehicles. Now we have to deal with snow and all the effects and art stuff associated with that, plus re-skins and new maps.
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its been 6 months since the last release...
Closer to 3 months I think you'll find. 2.3 released on the 6th October.
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oh, my bad... Why did 6months come to mind...?
hmm.. sorru. Null suggestion
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yea but lately ive seen the released be about 4 months apart but he is right about the kinda new theater. so maybe longer.. i was really hoping for a release date didnt really expect russians till i read the thread name and the first thing that came to mind was enemy at the gates before they charged in the open no mans land against MG 42's and Panzer 3s
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I still hope that Bulge can be release in the colder time of the year... else it would be a bit strange to play it first. Bulge with 30° for the first time would be kinda strange. :P
The imagination to play bulge while it's foggy and snowy outside of the house is just making it better.
Lets's hope. :)
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i.e in the next month or so... Or the end of the year MAYBE?
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i.e in the next month or so... Or the end of the year MAYBE?
end of the year? that another 11 months and some odd days away
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We simply don't know when we are able to release it. "If I'd knew that, I'd also know the lottery numbers for tomorrow" like my former boss used to say.
Do mind that we want to see this out as soon as possible as well. We're really excited to be able to play with all of you guys. Seeing you guys having fun and enjoying FH2 is one of the driving factors for many of us developers :)
But the bulge is a whole new front and a whole lot of stuff has to be done which unfortunately takes more time than previous Normandy Releases. After all, this is an entire new front, like 2.2 was from 2.15
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Will we see more Normandy maps before or after the Bulge update?
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maybe after ;)
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Hey, FatJoe, where are the pictures of you wearing a pink tutu? ;)
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Hey, FatJoe, where are the pictures of you wearing a pink tutu? ;)
oooooooooooh
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Bydq7ft6Jhc/TF7909g-mnI/AAAAAAAAADk/fzKKdKJ6F78/s320/trollface.gif)
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...But the bulge is a whole new front and a whole lot of stuff has to be done which unfortunately takes more time than previous Normandy Releases. After all, this is an entire new front, like 2.2 was from 2.15
So, it takes about a year. it's a pity.
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You're quite a naysayer, aren't you?
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So, it takes about a year. it's a pity.
No, Kurt, not exactly a year, we're lucky to that extend that we don't have to create all new models for everything ( trees, houses, statics, vehicles, weapons ) as some of those are done with a snowy re-texture. :)
The update will be this year, anything else would be silly. I'd even go as far as say it'll be on this half of the year. However I simply can't say when the update will come 'cause:
1. I simply don't know
2. if I'd promise a specific date and we'd miss it, everyone would get mad and disappointed.
3. And I'd most probably miss-guess the specific date because of number 1.
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Hey, FatJoe, where are the pictures of you wearing a pink tutu? ;)
go away, scary man..
:(
.. *FatJoe smashes Thetas trolling face in!
..soon ( still trying to find a tutu ) :D
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Can some of you beta testers help me identify the map screenshots for the Bulge Patch?
They can't. There are rules you know. ;)
I can, but I'm not going to. Those shots are all Work in Progress. We're simply letting you know we are working on stuff by showing these screenshots. You'll find out which maps are which when we make newsupdates about them.
Also, how many total maps can we expect in the next patch?
We aren't at the stage in development yet where we can say anything about the contents of the next patch.
They sure are :P some of the screenshots are taken directly from the editor :P you can see the undergrowth showing up trough the terrain on the other side of the hill, and bad resolution aswell :P
But very nice update! Best since 2.2 imo!
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This is quite a great thing to come home to after a long reenactment ;D
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They sure are :P some of the screenshots are taken directly from the editor :P you can see the undergrowth showing up trough the terrain on the other side of the hill, and bad resolution aswell :P
haha, what makes you so sure?
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What the hell? I didnt posted in this thread?!
Wooooot kvs <3
And btw, Welcome Zeta :) Hope you bring us some awesome statics bro!
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What the hell? I didnt posted in this thread?!
Wooooot kvs <3
And btw, Welcome Zeta :) Hope you bring us some awesome statics bro!
I would love me some statics news posts.
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hmm.. now i can hopefully finally see an M4A2 sherman!
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Outstanding update. 8) Looking forward to the release very much.
Keep up the amazing work FH2 dev. team.
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I really injoy reading the last couple of pages, its good to see people on fire again :)
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Russian propaganda will do that to you....
ooh, ohh.. We MUST have a Pavlov's house! With the great close-quarter combat and infantry combat in general, it will be epic. Complete with *cough, cough* JU88s *cough* flying overhead and other flamethrowers and mortars....But that requires a marrying of the Bulge and Eastern Front so I'd wait quietly till its done
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I would rather see some small map updates before the first Ostfront release. Matter of fact, I would rather see some small map updates even before the Bulge to get something sooner than later. Long time no update means casual players will get bored and abandon the ship.
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hmm.. now i can hopefully finally see an M4A2 sherman!
haha, after we announce the russian front the first thing you think of is another sherman!
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Do Russians have any egg-related weapons?
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So, it takes about a year. it's a pity.
No, Kurt, not exactly a year, we're lucky to that extend that we don't have to create all new models for everything ( trees, houses, statics, vehicles, weapons ) as some of those are done with a snowy re-texture. :)
The update will be this year, anything else would be silly. I'd even go as far as say it'll be on this half of the year. However I simply can't say when the update will come 'cause:
1. I simply don't know
2. if I'd promise a specific date and we'd miss it, everyone would get mad and disappointed.
3. And I'd most probably miss-guess the specific date because of number 1.
Thanx FatJoe. :D Сrisp and clear answer.
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Do Russians have any egg-related weapons?
yeah, a hammer and sickle ;D
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hmm.. now i can hopefully finally see an M4A2 sherman!
haha, after we announce the russian front the first thing you think of is another sherman!
i havnt seen you post in a while kev or is it just me? kev you know i love the shermans.. jumbo and teh E8's the most =)
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Kev couldn't post in a while due to his Steven Seagal marathon.
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Ah yes,BTW,how will be the KV-1 armor?
Impenetrable like in FH1?
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KV-1S has armour in about the same range of thickness as the Matilda, but it faces German tanks with better guns.
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Are there going to be pre-S KV-1s with the larger turret and thicker armor? I always digged those more than the lightweight S.:)
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Thanks a lot for this absolutely awesome update! And the wallpaper is really nice. Trust me, you'll get a bunch of people off PR and into FH2 when Eastern Front is out :)
On a side note, I do hope we see early 41 before we get to late-war stuff. Plus, this will make the Finns happy too!
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I thought the KV-1s hade ligther or thinner armour, if it is on par with the matilda then it is actually quite good armour when i read the neews it looks like it sacrified armour and got a smaller turret to gain better/more speed.
I actully thought this would be more like a medium strong tank if it is as heavy armourd as a Matilda and have even sacrificed somthing, then its a bloody hard to crack tank, even for good german guns.
I actully wonder now howe fast this will be.
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Why? I hated those puny tanks.
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I thought the KV-1s had lighter or thinner armour, if it is on par with the Matilda then it is actually quite good armour when I read the news it looks like it scarified armour and got a smaller turret to gain better/more speed.
Well, strictly speaking, the KV-1S has slightly thicker max armour than the Matilda, but in the terms of the way armour works ingame, they are pretty much the same. The difference is that the Matilda has to face 5.0cm guns that cannot hurt it. The KV-1S was up against the 7.5cm gun that could quite easily hurt it.
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I thought the KV-1s had lighter or thinner armour, if it is on par with the Matilda then it is actually quite good armour when I read the news it looks like it scarified armour and got a smaller turret to gain better/more speed.
Well, strictly speaking, the KV-1S has slightly thicker max armour than the Matilda, but in the terms of the way armour works ingame, they are pretty much the same. The difference is that the Matilda has to face 5.0cm guns that cannot hurt it. The KV-1S was up against the 7.5cm gun that could quite easily hurt it.
The KV-1 first had 75mm of armor. The model 1941 had 75+20. And the Model 1942 had 110 mm of armor
The crews complained that the KV did not had much advantage over the T34. Only more armor. It had far less mobility yet the same firepower.
KV crews sended feedback that the KV most needed thing was more firepower
The response=OK MORE SPEED BY LESS ARMOR K
So the KV went back to 75mm of armor....with a bit more speed
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Forget the tanks, I request the GAZ-64/67...
(http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac324/Oddball_8/gaz64_.jpg)
(http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac324/Oddball_8/GAZ-64-bw.jpg)
Beautiful little vehicle if I don't say so myself.
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http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/123%20-%20gaz1.jpg (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/123%20-%20gaz1.jpg)
Notice the little icon...
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http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/123%20-%20gaz1.jpg (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/123%20-%20gaz1.jpg)
Notice the little icon...
Just did. ;) Are they planning on reworking the textures though?
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I don't even know if that model will get used.
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I don't even know if that model will get used.
Okay, just a placeholder for now?
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In as much as a 3DSmax file and a texture set can be considered a place holder.
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In as much as a 3DSmax file and a texture set can be considered a place holder.
Uuuuuh yeah that jeep looks pretty damn good to me. Definitely FH2 ready, minus the coding, animating and all that extra jazz.
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Ahhh, now I can use my original "they're coming" signature as it was intended.
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In as much as a 3DSmax file and a texture set can be considered a place holder.
Uuuuuh yeah that jeep looks pretty damn good to me. Definitely FH2 ready, minus the coding, animating and all that extra jazz.
It's not bad, but it's still BF42' vintage. The Tires are too thick, the interior textures should be improved for BF2 engine, and general textures could be sharpened...
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Good luck with the new fronts chaps, will definitely be playing them :)
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Finally, been waiting for this announcement since FH2 came out. Most epic news ever *criestearsofjoy*
Ahhh, now I can use my original "they're coming" signature as it was intended.
I knew the sun over stalingrad had to mean something ;D
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I don't even know if that model will get used.
Okay, just a placeholder for now?
I think it will be used. But I believe Rad lost the normal map in his infamous hard drive crash.
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In as much as a 3DSmax file and a texture set can be considered a place holder.
Uuuuuh yeah that jeep looks pretty damn good to me. Definitely FH2 ready, minus the coding, animating and all that extra jazz.
It's not bad, but it's still BF42' vintage. The Tires are too thick, the interior textures should be improved for BF2 engine, and general textures could be sharpened...
not really needed, most of rads textures come with an insane quality wich even kicks some FH2 models as allready
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I should add that the wallpaper was made from actual 3d models...
So how much is exactly from the game on the wallpaper? Just tell me that the smoke from the destroyed tank is real! Just tell the truth! ;D
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Ah,hier.
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/172%20-%20finlandatwar.jpg)
The Suomi,PPD and Nagant models.
BTW,kinda way off topic,but at the archives I saw there was a Swordfish model.What happened to it?
Gone with the german submarine?
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The finnish gun cannot be use by Fh2
And the swordfish and the u47 arnt gone, their just not use by a map.
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15 pages and no one remembers that there is the changelog with all kinds of tasty morsels.
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I hear that changelog word all the time, where the hell is that lol
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I hear that changelog word all the time, where the hell is that lol
http://ifihada.com/~jbp/fh2pub/release-2.3/changelog.txt
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You guys are gonna love the M1895 nagant
when you have to reload it ;D ;D
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From change log:
* Suomi 31 Drum and Stick magazine (sethsoldier)
Finnish army coming in Eastern front patch?
*Hears dreamcrusher coming*
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It would be bloody unlikely to see finns coming to western front.
:P
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And the swordfish and the u47 arnt gone, their just not use by a map.
You have a bed and a wardrobe and you don´t have a house.That´s sad...
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The finnish gun cannot be use by Fh2
why not?
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The finnish gun cannot be use by Fh2
why not?
Then why is it in 2.3 changelog?
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I should add that the wallpaper was made from actual 3d models...
So how much is exactly from the game on the wallpaper? Just tell me that the smoke from the destroyed tank is real! Just tell the truth! ;D
Only the tanks are 3d models.. all else is photoshop or painted. :)
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But have some Russian front statics been created? or is that alll hush-hush - - cuz we'd never get those in an update
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I alllready Ported the GAZ and made it FH2 Ready ;) pff fools ;D
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;D
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I alllready Ported the GAZ and made it FH2 Ready ;) pff fools ;D
LEEEEEEEAK!
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I alllready Ported the GAZ and made it FH2 Ready ;) pff fools ;D
Pics or it never happened.
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I alllready Ported the GAZ and made it FH2 Ready ;) pff fools ;D
LEEEEEEEAK!
BLACK heli's!
NAAAOOO
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(https://regtransfers-sth-se.diino.com/download/zrixxx/Pics/Fun/blackchoppers.png)
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Thats not fast enough Zrix! The devs will reveal your current standing on the next Beta tester meeting.
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The finnish gun cannot be use by Fh2
why not?
Then why is it in 2.3 changelog?
The FaW weapon is in the change-log? I missed that.
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You mean this Black Helo?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/Kamov-Ka-60.jpg)
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I alllready Ported the GAZ and made it FH2 Ready ;) pff fools ;D
LEEEEEEEAK!
BLACK heli's!
NAAAOOO
I usaly send the Black Helis.....
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Saw Bastogne on the test server. I WANT. NAO! :)
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I usaly send the Black Helis.....
;D ;D ;D
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I alllready Ported the GAZ and made it FH2 Ready ;) pff fools ;D
Could we perhaps, see a picture? ;)
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I alllready Ported the GAZ and made it FH2 Ready ;) pff fools ;D
Could we perhaps, see a picture? ;)
Absolutely:
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/123%20-%20gaz1.jpg)
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/123%20-%20gaz2.jpg)
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Oh okay, so they're using the same one from FH1 and just ported it over?
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Look closely and notice that it was made from the beginning also for FH2.
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But have some Russian front statics been created? or is that alll hush-hush - - cuz we'd never get those in an update
Right now we have a small but solid amount of rural statics for the mappers to start with. Compared to the number of Normandy statics it´s tiny number, but we have just started. ;) You might have to wait for pictures until the first map will be shown to the public.
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Have you noticed that the tank on the right bottom ist missing some barrels and the turret is missing the rear mg? And there is a number on the turret. Clearly not the KV-1S fom the News. Maybe a T-34/85?
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Tank on the left is KV1S
two tanks on the right clearly are T34-85's
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Update today? ;)
EDIT: Obviously not...
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When i first seen that Wallpaper, i tought the Devs were using screenshots from World of tanks :>
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update today?
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update today?
Calm down, the devs just announced a new theater, give them a little time before you start begging. I want an update as bad as anybody.
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Asking for updates is a two-sided blade. You show pure interest towards the mod which makes it great for the devs, they see that you *want* to see new stuff. But then again on the other hand... asking for updates will not make them come up quicker. ;)
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asking for an update, in other means, raises the dreamcrush bar of Lighting
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Have you decided yet how the ISU152 will do in tank to tank combat? i mean atm HE shells do not much vs tanks, and the news update says that the majority of its shells are HE. so how much damage will the HE shells do to tanks? and if they do much damage, what is the use of AP shells then?
and any plans on the reload time?
you are busy with the bulge of course but just questions that came to mind.
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SU152, not ISU. Although we might see the ISU too, who knows.
At the moment the bigger HE shells should actually do some damage to tanks. But keep in mind that the largest tank shell are only 88 mm and even the largest artillery is 105 mm. 152 mm will deliver quite a punch, I would say.
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Have you decided yet how the ISU152 will do in tank to tank combat? i mean atm HE shells do not much vs tanks, and the news update says that the majority of its shells are HE. so how much damage will the HE shells do to tanks? and if they do much damage, what is the use of AP shells then?
and any plans on the reload time?
you are busy with the bulge of course but just questions that came to mind.
AP shells would offer a flatter trajectory, and that's about it. :P
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SU152, not ISU. Although we might see the ISU too, who knows.
At the moment the bigger HE shells should actually do some damage to tanks. But keep in mind that the largest tank shell are only 88 mm and even the largest artillery is 105 mm. 152 mm will deliver quite a punch, I would say.
As an ISU and ML 20 expert, we can safely say that anything up to a tiger tank is pretty much ruined when hit by a 152.4mm 43.3KG (containing 6KG of explosives)
Tiger tanks, for example, simply lost there turrets when a shell hitted the frontal hull armor. Soviet SU/ISU 152 doctorine was that the crew had to keep firing at the enemy tank untill "It did not looked like a tank anymore"
As for the KT, there are reports of them surviving direct hits..
Well for the tank, not the crew.
If your tank survived, your crew was dead anyway
The reload time was something between 1 to 2 rounds a minute
As for the AP and APHE shell, i sorry vonmudra, but the trajectory was the same. Muzzle velocity of the HE-Fragmentation, steel OF-540 shell was 655 M/S, and the APHE BR-540 was 600 M/S
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Forgotten Hope
I think tomorrow is a good time for a news update? Who's with me?
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[Forgotten Hope
I think tomorrow is a good time for a news update? Who's with me?
;D I SECOND THAT !!
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Wow, so the HE was actually a flatter trajectory? Normally, it was the other way around xD
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Wow, so the HE was actually a flatter trajectory? Normally, it was the other way around xD
The APHE was not so well designed ;)
After war they designed a proper round, wich penetrated 50% more, did more damage and had a muzzle velocity of 900 M/S but ye, the war had ended then :v
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yeah, but my question was "why would i use AP shells anyway, if HE does the job aswell and you are also prepared for infantry attacks?". - nobody would use AP shells except if you are out of HE-Shells.
Well we have kingtigers penetrated by fireflies frontally (ingame) ... so i think the SU152 will be worse -.-
on the contrary: If even a kingtiger gets 1 shot frontally ingame the panther HAS TO 1 shot a SU152 frontally (and not just with pzgr40).
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75mm of sloped armor, no problem for panther, PZIV/StuG is a diffrent thing
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And then we have Sherman 76mm penetrating panthers 80mm frontally ingame, so why not 75mm/L48 guns with pzgr40 damaging a SU152 frontally?
Im not talking about 1 shotting the thing, but at least damage should be dealt.
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Well we have kingtigers penetrated by fireflies frontally (ingame) ... so i think the SU152 will be worse -.-
HVAP from the Ordnance QF 17 pounder can penetrate the front of an Tiger II. And a 152 mm shell from the ML-20 howitzer will, if not penetrate, rip off the armour or cause massive spalling that obliterates the crew. ;)
But yeah, you better hit on the first try or the faster guns will get the not too armoured I/SU.
PS. Theta; there is a ML-20 not three kilometres from where I live, shall I go and say hi? ^^
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PS. Theta; there is a ML-20 not three kilometres from where I live, shall I go and say hi? ^^
Yes plx!Pics!
"Hello there Sasha! What a pleasant surprise!"
""Son are you seducing an artillery gun.""
(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/239/d/f/forever_alone_by_foreveraloneplz.png)And then we have Sherman 76mm penetrating panthers 80mm frontally ingame, so why not 75mm/L48 guns with pzgr40 damaging a SU152 frontally?
Im not talking about 1 shotting the thing, but at least damage should be dealt.
Poor little german tanks! THEY are being OPRESSED! They are so Underpowerd!!
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PS. Theta; there is a ML-20 not three kilometres from where I live, shall I go and say hi? ^^
Yes plx!Pics!
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/38/152mm_ml20_hameenlinna_4.jpg/800px-152mm_ml20_hameenlinna_4.jpg)
;D
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Magnificent, thanks thorondor
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Nice pic, Thorondor!
2 THETA: Correcting it for you :)
"It did not look like a tank anymore" or the crew bailed (whatever comes first)
Is the KT currently 1s-1k frontally from a Firefly or it is only with abusing the deck shots?
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Only on the deckshots. Dont believe that german propaganda ;)
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Ah ok. Thank for the ultrafast answer ;)
We really need to do something with the deckshots/cupolashots. Is it possible to give some special attribute to the handheld AT weapons so that only they can damage those parts?
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Well i do hope they figure it out someday aswel
many ideas exist, but they can prove difficult to implent so i heard
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I did like the idea of the invisible walls. This is definitely doable, but would require all of the models updated, which might not be too easy due to the sheer number of said models.
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Ye thats the catch. Either it is engine impossible or requires SHIT lot of time
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actually had the KT today, and got frontally 1 shot by a 6pounder (full health)... well im not surprised by anything now. (and didnt a tiger side shot just bounce off from your churchill last game night theta? xD)
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Just noticed that you have some vehicles to add to the website, namely:
GB - Land - AVRE (upcoming)
USSR - Land - KV-1S (upcoming)
USSR - Land - SU-152 (upcoming)
;D
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We don't know for a fact that AVRE is upcoming :-(
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We don't know for a fact that AVRE is upcoming :-(
It's been in the news but isn't on any maps - therefore it is upcoming.
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in the files, maybe... Like the sub and swordfish... But not necessarily upcoming.
tbh, it may be good to have some of these variant weapons and vehicles exclusively for fan-mappers to use. Although, I cannot see a dday map over the horizon, let alone one that specifically uses the AVRE or bangalore torpedoes
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Anything that's been in the news but isn't featured in the current mod version is upcoming. It could be upcoming for 10 patches, but it would still be upcoming.