Author Topic: Forgotten Hope News Update: 7th June 2009: Infanterie Greift An!  (Read 56960 times)

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My guess would be polishing and balancing, mainly. And that sure is a helllotof work.

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What needs to be done untill they release 2.2?
That depends on what you want in it.

My guess would be polishing and balancing, mainly. And that sure is a helllotof work.
Actually that's not right. Stuff is being added all the time. For example, the items from today's news; the churchill has only been ingame for a few days and has not been properly tested. The 155mm GPF isn't in game yet at all. Also, as you may have noticed by spying on our test server, we added another brand new map that hadn't been tested yet at all.

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Ok, I thought I was clear enough to avoid confusion. Let me rephrase:

In Forgotten Hope 2, where it says "unteroffizier" in the German class menu, we mean it as a general term for NCOs, not as the German rank of unteroffizier. While we acknowledge that such a rank does exist in the modern German army and existed in the German army of the third reich, that is not what it means in this specific case of the class menu.

Ok, good ;)

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My guess would be polishing and balancing, mainly. And that sure is a helllotof work.
Actually that's not right. Stuff is being added all the time. For example, the items from today's news; the churchill has only been ingame for a few days and has not been properly tested. The 155mm GPF isn't in game yet at all. Also, as you may have noticed by spying on our test server, we added another brand new map that hadn't been tested yet at all.

Okay okay. I said mainly.  ;)

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Great update guys  ;D cant wait to see the FJs. Also one thing im wondering which rank will the SS nco have? Scharfuhrer?
« Last Edit: 21-06-2009, 15:06:21 by HusMuseN »

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SO  THERE WILL BE FALLSCHRIMJEGERS? ;D :o :o :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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SO  THERE WILL BE FALLSCHRIMJEGERS? ;D :o :o :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

A post by a fan hoping for FJ models does not confirm that FJ models are in development.

I for one would also appreciate it if you would not type messages all in caps, it looks like you are shouting.
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For FJ models, I think the best answer is this.

They will probably, eventually, after awhile, get made.  Maybe for 2.2, maybe for 2.25, maybe not until 2.5, but they will eventually get made.  For now, just sit down and be patient about it.

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SO  THERE WILL BE FALLSCHRIMJEGERS? ;D :o :o :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

FJ later ;)

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SO  THERE WILL BE FALLSCHRIMJEGERS? ;D :o :o :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

A post by a fan hoping for FJ models does not confirm that FJ models are in development.

I for one would also appreciate it if you would not type messages all in caps, it looks like you are shouting.



man i was SHOUTING :P


i just thought i was missing something great ::) 
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SO  THERE WILL BE FALLSCHRIMJEGERS? ;D :o :o :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

A post by a fan hoping for FJ models does not confirm that FJ models are in development.

I for one would also appreciate it if you would not type messages all in caps, it looks like you are shouting.
Yeah but, please, dont it again ok?

You're like a little kid trying to get attention... sorry but i had to say it  ::)


Peace


man i was SHOUTING :P


i just thought i was missing something great ::) 


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He is a Unterfeldwebel indeed which does not match the ingame Unteroffizier as squadleader. Hm.
Unteroffizier simply means NCO in this case. It doesn't refer to the specific rank.

Um, no, Unteroffizer is a rank in the German army to this day.  In WW2, it was essentially the rank of Sergeant (though British historians have yet to figure that out, usually labeling it as Corporal, which is a gross error in judgement, considering the fact that the Unteroffizer was the squad CO, while Obergefreiter was the XO, and duly the corporal)
Wait, so what was gefrieter? Lance-corporal?

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Sorta.  The germans had an interesting rank system in the war that is sorta unlike any other.

The german ranks are typically given as this:

Schuetze- Private
Oberschuetze- Private First Class
Gefreiter- Lance Corporal
Obergefreiter- Corporal
Stabsgefreiter- Staff Corporal
Unteroffizer- Sergeant
Unterfeldwebel- Staff Sergeant
Feldwebel- Sergeant First Class
Oberfeldwebel- Master Sergeant
Stabsfeldwebel- First Sergeant
(into the officer ranks, it follows normal western protocol).

That's in comparison to the USA military ranks.  HOWEVER, that is NOT completely correct.  The enlisted ranks of the german army were actually organized to reward good soldiers, and punish poor quality ones.  It starts in the rank of Schuetze.  From Schuetze, after training on a specialty weapon (machine gun, anti-tank rocket, arty gunner, mortar gunner, etc...), you were automatically promoted to Gefreiter.  All others who were not specialists were promoted to Gefreiter within 6 months to a year after leaving basic training.  This skipped the rank of Oberschuetze.  The way you got promoted to Oberschuetze was either flunking your specialist training, or being unable to gain the automatic promotion to Gefreiter (disciplinary problems or such).  It was possible however to rise to Gefreiter after being Oberschuetze, think of it was a wake-me-up rank.

After that, 6 months to a year after Gefreiter, you got Obergefreiter (this is on average of course, exemplary work could get you expressed through the ranks.)  Beyond Obergefreiter, the next step was NCO training to become an Unteroffizer.  Obergefreiters were normally section commanders (MG, mortar, heavy MG, or such), and in an infantry unit, acted as the XO of the squad.  Those specially selected for NCO training wore a strip of tress over their shoulder board, width wise.  If you passed NCO training, you were promoted to Unteroffizer, skipping the rank of Stabsgefreiter.  If you flunked, or were otherwise deemed unfit to become an NCO, you were made Stabsgefreiter.  Stabsgefreiter was the dead end rank.  It was next to impossible to move up from that rank, and you were typically given disciplinary or staff roles, the only jobs that didn't require you to actually command men.

Beyond that, you have the normal NCO ranks.  Stabsfeldwebel, unlike Stabsgefreiter, was an honorific rank, normally reserved for 20 year vets, who did not wish to become officers, which normally was given after the rank of Oberfeldwebel.  However, if they chose too, they could still later become a Leutnant.

Mixed into the ranks of the German NCOs is a rank taht really is hard to place right, Hauptfeldwebel.  The Hauptfeldwebel (or Spiess) was typically the senior NCO of the company, but could be anywhere from Unteroffizer to Stabsfeldwebel.  The symbol of their rank was 2 strips of tress around each tunic cuff, and their booklet, which was placed into the tunic flap, and held lists of all the men in the unit, punishments, awards, promotions, equipment and food issues, etc....



Here you see a Hauptfeldwebel in the Luftwaffe on the left, the cuff tress and his booklet clearly visible.  He holds the normal rank of Oberfeldwebel.

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Here you see a Hauptfeldwebel in the Luftwaffe on the left, the cuff tress and his booklet clearly visible.  He holds the normal rank of Oberfeldwebel.

Its only Feldwebel, Hauptfeldwebel is only in the Bundeswehr.

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Um, excuse me?  Hauptfeldwebel WAS in the Wehrmacht.  Plus that man's nominal rank is an Oberfeldwebel, note the 2 pips.



Another Hauptfeldwebel, the cuff tress clearly visible, nominal rank Oberfeldwebel.



And yet another, cuff tree clearly visible, and of the nominal rank of Feldwebel.



Here we see yet another Hauptfeldwebel, his reporting pouch in hand, recording British prisoners.
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