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Gaming rigs.
« on: 16-06-2009, 01:06:42 »
I don't know anything about computers, but I do know that if I have to endure laggy, ugly FHing for the summer I'm going to have a stroke. I'm still job hunting but I have vowed that once I manage to secure employment I will not spend a dime of my paycheck until I have 4 or 5 thousand dollars ready to drop on the best gaming computer I can buy for that kind of money.

My question to all of you is, naturally, what is the best approach? I hear a lot of people saying that the best way to go about this is to build my own system, but I have no idea what to believe. Basically, I want a computer that could theoretically run FH1 and FH2 at the same time on the highest graphics possible with 10 copies of Spyware Doctor open, 10 gigs of porn downloading through torrents and the ability to suffer no slowdown.

So if there's any brands you would recommend I go after (or stay away from), any advice, etc. I'd like to hear it. I really, really can't take having to disconnect from Pixel Fighter every time we go to Orel or Prokhorovka because my computer can't handle it when there's more than 20 people online. You have to understand the frustration of not being able to put up a fight 90% of the time, the massive annoyance of, instead of seeing someone run into a building, over to you and knife you, seeing part of someone in the door, someone half ways across the room, and then just red red red and a message saying you've been killed.
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« Reply #1 on: 16-06-2009, 01:06:08 »
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229092

Heres a machine we are looking at. It will run FH2 and more, without breaking a sweat.

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Re: Gaming rigs.
« Reply #2 on: 16-06-2009, 02:06:00 »
FH42 & vista not a good combination

I got a Gateway FX7026 last year for just over $1000.00 at bestbuy.  I run FH2 on highest settings

my specs:  Nvidia GeForce 8800gt overclock
                Intel 2-quad core processor
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I'm sure my computer is already obsolete.  Here's a link to latest: http://www.gateway.com/programs/fxseries/index.php?cmpid=topnav_computers

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« Reply #3 on: 16-06-2009, 02:06:38 »
I won't give you brands name but general tips, hope that helps.

4 to 5 thousand dollars is too much for a PC that would be mostly to handle FH1 and FH2 even on max settings. It's too much waste of power if you want to pay for your bills as low as possible and still have 24hour download machine. Invest in RAM couse it's cheap comparing to the old days. Get good quality over quantity. 4 GB of DDR3 is more than enough. Decent GeForce 8 series (or better). Hard disk ~500 GB. Intel duo should be ok but hit for quatro if you can. Add a motherboard that can run all of these and reliable feeder (reliable means won't burn) and your set.

But best is to have a friend who know a bit about hardware and helps you pick stuff you need in a budget you decide. Putting it together isn't too hard but if you're unsure you can get a 'professional' do it for you for a small fee. He'll assemble the parts you've chosen and give some advice witch eventual changes if some parts are imcopatible witch each other.

I hope this helped. Good luck.


EDIT: I almost forgot. If you want to play online and have torrent etc. on I advice to have really good internet service (this means more expensive one). Otherwise just don't do it. Play or download.
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« Reply #4 on: 16-06-2009, 04:06:47 »
I second what Kubador is saying about the torrents. I have a DSL connection and even with heavy limits on upload/download I see a much higher ping and connection problems. If I had more bandwidth It might be ok though.

As for a computer, what on earth would you need to spend $4000 on?!?! That PC Tiemann posted is pretty much top of the line and is only $1200. Add $300 for a nice screen and youre set.

I just put together a new budget rig with a dual core E5200, 4 gigs of DDR2 ram, and a geforce 9500 video card and I can run everything on high in FH2 no problem. all together (even with the lost money getting the wrong mobo) it cost me perhaps $400. I already had a screen though.

My friend, on the other hand, put together a $1400 i7 computer and it runs FH2 at the same settings. His wont need an upgrade as soon, however.

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Re: Gaming rigs.
« Reply #5 on: 16-06-2009, 04:06:00 »
Go with Acer gaming computers with Cisco gaming modem/bridges.  you can have Vista and anything made after 1995.

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« Reply #6 on: 16-06-2009, 07:06:24 »
And remember you can get a PC that runs FH2 on max and Crysis very high for about 400$.
Everything else is just sbling and costs too much money atm.
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« Reply #7 on: 16-06-2009, 07:06:32 »
And remember you can get a PC that runs FH2 on max and Crysis very high for about 400$.
Everything else is just sbling and costs too much money atm.

FH2 at 1024x768 and Crysis on medium settings maybe.

Either way, it doesn't sound like you want any low end stuff.
Build your own computer. Following the instructions its as easy as building lego. For 50$ you can even select your own parts and have most computer stores put it together for you. If you buy something from Dell or Alienware, you're going to be paying them 200 to 400$ more than for the parts, atleast with such high end computers. You can instead pay most computer parts websites 50$ to put parts which you choose together. Computer companies also force you to buy windows vista, easily adding a couple hundred dollars to the price while most people have an old copy of Windows XP lying around, which runs games 10x better.

I don't know much about CPUs atm, but these aren't as important choice wise as graphic cards. Get one that fits your budget.

Since you're obviously going high end, get two ATI 4890s or an nvidia GTX 295. If there's anything to use your money on, its the graphics card.

DDR3 ram hasn't shown to be very superior to DDR2, yet. It'll be the standard in the future. Since you don't want to cut any corners on the budget, get atleast 4GB of this. At the moment, nothing will use more than this unless you're running 20 copies of 3ds max at once. You can easily upgrade later if its needed.

For a power supply, make sure it fits the minimum requirements of the graphic card(s) (google it).

Also important is screen and audio. Without these, putting in money for a fast computer will be pointless.
Again, don't cut corners here. Now these vary a lot, some people don't like input lag and prefer CRTs, while most don't even notice input lag and want a good sized LCD. Personally, I'd recommend a Dell or Samsung 24" screen, with 1920x1200 resolution. These have a good comprimise between input lag and resolution. Input lag generally does not go above 30 - 40ms, while allowing you the competetive edge when it comes to resolution, thus detail. For audio I won't give any suggestions, except for get a soundcard that fits your budget.

A motherboard is usually the last thing you choose. Unless you're into overclocking and the like, which I don't think you are, get one that fits the parts you choose. Simple as that.

For computer cases, mice, keyboards, DVD rom/bluray stations etc. etc. I won't give any advice. These are as simple as it gets. Also, don't buy a 100$ mouse and not a mousepad. Mousepads are very important, while being relatively cheap compared to most other stuff. On my current Q-pad, I can play just fine with a ball mouse if needed.

The above will probably not run you above 1500 - 2000$. Hope this helps.

EDIT: I almost forgot about harddrives!
Harddrives are in a changing market at the moment. The old style harddrives are being replaced by Solid-State-Disks (SSD). SSD disks, while having much lower capicity, are MANY times faster. Most people in the high end business have one or two of these, together with a traditional harddrive. They use the SSDs first for windows, then for games if they have room, and save video/audio/pictures on the traditional harddrive.
If you decide to go with a traditional harddrive, since SSD disks are still very pricey, I suggest to go RAID. RAID is basically hooking up two harddrives, writing half of each file onto each harddrive. This makes writing and reading from the harddrives TWICE as fast. Both traditional harddrives and SSD disks can use this setup.
« Last Edit: 16-06-2009, 07:06:15 by Kev4000 »

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« Reply #8 on: 16-06-2009, 14:06:28 »
Ok here we go. Prices are in Euro's and will probably be cheaper in USD, because PC parts are cheaper in the US.

Processor    AMD Phenom II X4 940 BE                                    € 159,96
Cooler          Scythe Mugen 2                                                     € 32,24
Motherboard    Foxconn A7DA-S                                                    € 95,90
Memory           OCZ Platinum Dual Channel OCZ2P10664GK         € 55,-
Videocard    Sapphire HD 4870 X2                                             € 333,94
Soundcard   Creative X-Fi Titanium                                           € 64,34
Harddisk      2 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB                € 60,80 (2x)
Monitor        Samsung Syncmaster 2443BW                            € 250,82
Casing           Cooler Master Centurion 590                                   € 58,95
Powersupply     Cooler Master Silent Pro 600W                             € 82,95
DVD-burner     Samsung SH-S223F                                                  € 16,14
Speakerset    Logitech G51                                                        € 114,95
Headset            Creative Fatal1ty Gaming Headset                         € 25,-
Keyboard    OCZ Alchemy Elixir                                               € 24,-
Mouse            Logitech MX518                                                   € 30,90

Total:                                                                                                 € 1.466,69

This will see you thru the next couple of gaming years . There are some things that you can salvage from your old PC, like keyboard, speakers, headset, mouse, LCD screen, etc.

I used two Harddisk, but you want them in a RAID0 configuration. This will increase you harddisk speed, which in modern PC's is becoming more and more the bottleneck. So you will have 500GB harddisk avaliable.

Find someone who can assemble this PC for you and you are good to go in the FH2 department. :)
« Last Edit: 16-06-2009, 16:06:47 by NTH »


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Re: Gaming rigs.
« Reply #9 on: 16-06-2009, 15:06:29 »
FH2 at 1024x768 and Crysis on medium settings maybe.

Hey not everyone wants to spend money on screens bigger than 19". ;)
An Ati 4850 can run Crysis on max at 1024x768 (no AA though).

For the rest you had a good reply kev.


Edit: Good to go NTH? He will blow FH2 out of the water with that setup. ^^
« Last Edit: 16-06-2009, 15:06:19 by N24Reporter »
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« Reply #10 on: 16-06-2009, 15:06:46 »
Hey not everyone wants to spend money on screens bigger than 19". ;)
An Ati 4850 can run Crysis on max at 1024x768 (no AA though).

Taking into consideration the OP's original posted budget, it would seem likely he'd want something bigger than 19".
And 1024x768 is now considered an outdated resolution. Minimum nowadays is 1280x1024. Running below native on LCD screens generally looks rather crappy.
Of course 19" is probably just fine, but I can't imagine downgrading from my 27" Dell screen :D

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« Reply #11 on: 16-06-2009, 20:06:48 »
Hey not everyone wants to spend money on screens bigger than 19". ;)
An Ati 4850 can run Crysis on max at 1024x768 (no AA though).

Taking into consideration the OP's original posted budget, it would seem likely he'd want something bigger than 19".
And 1024x768 is now considered an outdated resolution. Minimum nowadays is 1280x1024. Running below native on LCD screens generally looks rather crappy.
Of course 19" is probably just fine, but I can't imagine downgrading from my 27" Dell screen :D

You mean you only have ONE screen? :p

Great post up there btw, I learned quite a bit from it. I would like to add, that if you get a wireless mouse:

1) Test it out to make sure that it is easy to set in the recharging dock/you have lots of batteries. I have a great mouse that lasts forever, chages fast, and is very comfortable, but the charger was so poorly designed it's torutre to get it in the right position.

2) Have a cheap, wired, USB mouse as backup. Or two.