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Offline Zoologic

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Re: Revolting Uniting
« Reply #6465 on: 16-07-2016, 19:07:03 »
The "Erdogan is staging this up" is also very popular in Turkish social media circles.

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« Reply #6466 on: 17-07-2016, 01:07:26 »
I don't believe in a false flag operation. I don't believe Gülen has to do with this either. It was just a badly executed coup, with the police having a big share in taking the army out.

But when I see the statements and actions of Erdogan today, I regret this coup failed. And I know I stand against public media opinion, against politicians opinion, against public opinion. When somebody like Erdogan leaves the path of democracy and rule of law, it is a citizens duty to withstand. And the biggest guarantor for secular turkey is the turkish military. Who else would be able to stop Erdogan? The people in turkey might look in anger at the previous 4 coups in turkey since the 1960s, but they always received their voting rights back after each coup. The military is not a real threat for secular democratic turkey. IMHO Erdogan is.

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Re: Revolting Uniting
« Reply #6467 on: 17-07-2016, 02:07:22 »
Indeeed. The coup seems to be a badly executed one. Now Erdogan is in a prime position to gain even more power.

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Re: Revolting Uniting
« Reply #6468 on: 17-07-2016, 10:07:15 »
Turkish soldiers excecuted and decapitated... reports of torture. Naked packed in small cell rooms. And erdogan wanting to introduce capital punishment

Looks like the new islam state of ottoman empire v2.0 is rising up!

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Re: Revolting Uniting
« Reply #6469 on: 17-07-2016, 16:07:09 »
So the conclusion (even in the media) seems to be that this was Night of the Long Knives 2.0: Turkish Boogaloo?

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Re: Revolting Uniting
« Reply #6470 on: 17-07-2016, 16:07:38 »
What I want to know is why 2,700 judges were also detained?  Was their part of the coup to facilitate the transfer of power?  How could the Turkish authorities know who these people were so quickly or that they were even involved in the coup?

I am not asking as part of a conspiracy, I am genuinely confused as to why judges were part of the roundup so quickly after the attempted coup...it is not like their position is as transparent as soldiers on the streets...

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Re: Revolting Uniting
« Reply #6471 on: 17-07-2016, 16:07:09 »
I don't believe it.

Erdogan is one big fatass motherfucker, but somehow, this coup was "extremely unpopular"?. Sorry, but no guys. Assad had a coup against him and we're still seeing them fighting each other, Erdogan, being hated by a part of his people, has this very weak coup against him that is all over in like, 4 hours?.



Staged like the Reichstag fire, this guy is completely crazy, totally addicted to power. To hell with democracy, what is Democracy worth when your president bombs the shit out of the Kurds, has mysterious links with Daesh, attacks the press and attacks his opposition?. I can understand playing the Democracy card if, say, Hollande had a coup against him, but fucking Erdogan?, HA.

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Re: Revolting Uniting
« Reply #6472 on: 17-07-2016, 17:07:10 »
I am in for anybody who can maintain order, nevermind status quo.

Gaddafi, Assad? Dunno, seems like lost cause.

Putin? I don't think his alternative could control Russian oligarch as well as him.

Now, Erdogan? This kind of act is showing why Turkey cannot be in EU. When Belgians are fighting over PM position, they don't get violent, and they don't riot either despite being leaderless for several years.

But if I can be glad for some coup, it is Egypt's el-Sisi, he thrown up Morsi for good. His brotherhood network is quite a borderline danger to security already.

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Re: Revolting Uniting
« Reply #6473 on: 18-07-2016, 14:07:31 »
Staged like the Reichstag fire...

You're quite right that this whole coup-thingy has been staged. The arrests are happening waaay too quickly in waaay too large numbers.

However, if you're comparing it to WWII events, I'd rather put this on Valkyrie-level, certainly in terms of the repercussions. The Reichstag fire is more like the Ankara bombing. I'd wager even that was staged.

You'll see that within a month or so, Erdogan will disband parliament and hold an election, the AKP will win with the necessary margin to amend the constitution. Democracy always dies in either bloodshed or in thunderous applause.

@Zoologic: Speaking of Belgium, there have been protests by pro-Erdogan Turks in Theta's backyard, focussing down Gülen supporters or Kurds.
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Re: Revolting Uniting
« Reply #6474 on: 18-07-2016, 18:07:36 »
Now, to tell you about the very Asian reaction to all of that commotion: keep our silence and wait who comes out of power, see if he/she can maintain stability, then make amends with him, unless he said bad things about you, then side with whoever against him.

In case of China, Erdogan used to be too big mouthed about the whole Xinjiang business, so they wouldn't care, unless China needs supporter for their South China sea claims. If so, badmouthing Xinjiang could be forgotten.

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Re: Revolting Uniting
« Reply #6475 on: 19-07-2016, 14:07:41 »
I don't believe it.

Erdogan is one big fatass motherfucker, but somehow, this coup was "extremely unpopular"?.

Half the country hates Erdogan, but no one wants to return to an era of military coups.  The idea is barely taken seriously in Turkey anymore - it was a major unwanted shock to have the military intervene in politics.  The coup was a half-baked scheme by minor colonels who apparently had never heard of social media before. Erdogan sucks, yeah, but claims that it was an inside job are paranoid conspiracies.

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Re: Revolting Uniting
« Reply #6476 on: 19-07-2016, 19:07:39 »
So far Erdogan suspened 29.000 people from public offices. Judges, clerks, magistrates, military officers. 24 radio- and TV-stations have been closed. Totalism, anyone?

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Re: Revolting Uniting
« Reply #6477 on: 19-07-2016, 23:07:47 »
So far Erdogan suspened 29.000 people from public offices. Judges, clerks, magistrates, military officers. 24 radio- and TV-stations have been closed. Totalism, anyone?

And 15,200 education staff.  Bullshit that his government did not have a list before the coup started, no matter if it was "encouraged" to happen or not.

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Re: Revolting Uniting
« Reply #6478 on: 19-07-2016, 23:07:55 »
now...weird....did'nt a certain austrian madman did that aswel in the 40's?
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Re: Revolting Uniting
« Reply #6479 on: 20-07-2016, 00:07:45 »
No, he did it in the 30s.