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Re: Battlefield 3
« Reply #525 on: 01-04-2011, 09:04:27 »
The only thing that really bugs me about this preorder extra thingy is that from the start you will already see the servers/players devidet, if you havent pre ordert the game you will end up getting kicked from the servers that play the pre order extra maps if you dont have it. It is like in the old days of battlefield 2 just from the start of the game, were people that did not bye an expansion played on a server if the server ran those maps people would get kicked automaticaly. I remember that sins i newer baught Euroforces expansion.

So instead this will happen from the start now seeing the pre order people will be able to play aditionaly 4 maps remade for BF3.

I just hope we can eventualy pre order on steam that is the only electronic game portal i use, to bye games over the net if not i will get a hard copy from a shop, with means no pre order maps.

Unless offcaus the rest will get them later in a patch relativly fast after release.

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« Reply #526 on: 01-04-2011, 12:04:21 »
This is what concerns me:
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Pre-order Battlefield 3 to receive the digital expansion pack Battlefield 3: Back to Karkand at no extra charge!...
- http://www.ea.com/battlefield3/blog/bf3-pre-order
WTF does that mean?... >:(

The DVD version of the game's gonna include a voucher/coupon for the EA Store that lets me download it for free?



Regarding price, I remember paying about 60-70 bucks for Overdrive (by Team 17) on the Amiga in '93-'94, and the last new release/"full price" game I bought was Civilization V, which cost me 90 bucks... :)



Between now and End 2011 i have no other games looking forward to...
Really? All the cool kids are looking forward to seeing this guy again... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5svP9Wu0nk

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« Reply #527 on: 01-04-2011, 12:04:14 »
*Dives into a bunker, and peeks his head out the hatch just before closing it=
I never played duke nukem
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« Reply #528 on: 01-04-2011, 13:04:53 »
cannonfodder, we have auto updaters now  ;) ever since BF Heroes, you dont need to download anything, the game does everything for you when you start it. The game also know if your profile has access to the limited stuff.

Technology 2011  8)

@Priest: you don't need to worry about players being divided.

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« Reply #529 on: 01-04-2011, 13:04:18 »
Between now and End 2011 i have no other games looking forward to, so i'll take BF3 aswel.

Something tells me it just wont be "another Cod game" i dont know what it is.

check out red orchestra 2 ;)

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« Reply #530 on: 01-04-2011, 13:04:16 »
Games in the EU are rediculously expensive, here in NL they used to be 50 gulden which' currency was worth about 2 euros. Instead of making prices 25 euros, they just switched the money icon... I never bought a game since then unless it was totally worth it.

Sander, that's just plain wrong. Games were around 110 Guilders depending on the game. Here you can see Zoo tycoon, not an Triple A game, for 99 guilders --> http://www.gamersnet.nl/nieuws/200110/zoo_tycoon_aangekondigd/
They have been this price in the days of the Amiga and they have been in the days when PC games were upcoming.

Let's take Crysis 2 and Shift 2: Unleased for example.
Just out and I can buy them from 35 Euros. Throw some discount coupons, Freebees, Fuel saver or whatever and I am buying a brand new game for 30 euros.

@Zoo
General price inflation, more competitors due to Webshops, quality of Product inflation(this one is very subjective) and Production cost inflation, all went up while prices of games actually went down.


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« Reply #531 on: 01-04-2011, 13:04:33 »
@THeTA: Duke's been kickin' around since the early '90's, although I've only ever played Duke Nukem 3D.

The best video game character ever, he's just a complete piss-take of your stereotypical Hollywood action hero...and he talks like Dirty Harry. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Nukem_%28character%29

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You miss my point Natty. I'm aware of auto-updaters (Civ V does it through Steam), my problem is having to download, at my expense, these so-called free maps.

If they want to encourage people to pre-order the "Battlefield 3 Limited Edition" on DVD, the least they can do is go to the effort of actually making one (with the maps included), as opposed to taking a standard copy and sticking a coupon inside... :P

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« Reply #532 on: 01-04-2011, 13:04:11 »
Games in the EU are rediculously expensive, here in NL they used to be 50 gulden which' currency was worth about 2 euros. Instead of making prices 25 euros, they just switched the money icon... I never bought a game since then unless it was totally worth it.

Sander, that's just plain wrong. Games were around 110 Guilders depending on the game. Here you can see Zoo tycoon, not an Triple A game, for 99 guilders --> http://www.gamersnet.nl/nieuws/200110/zoo_tycoon_aangekondigd/
They have been this price in the days of the Amiga and they have been in the days when PC games were upcoming.

Let's take Crysis 2 and Shift 2: Unleased for example.
Just out and I can buy them from 35 Euros. Throw some discount coupons, Freebees, Fuel saver or whatever and I am buying a brand new game for 30 euros.

@Zoo
General price inflation, more competitors due to Webshops, quality of Product inflation(this one is very subjective) and Production cost inflation, all went up while prices of games actually went down.
Not to mention steam

I payed 50 euro for Homefront, i recieved metro 2033 for free, and in retail Homefront costs between 55 and 60 euro
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Re: Battlefield 3
« Reply #533 on: 01-04-2011, 14:04:35 »
Steam is actually being a bitch on Europeans as they rate the Euro and Dollar as equal value..
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« Reply #534 on: 01-04-2011, 15:04:43 »
Steam is actually being a bitch on Europeans as they rate the Euro and Dollar as equal value..

This... Also 50 to 60 € is way too much for a game in a country where an average monthly salary is around 750 € (my country).
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« Reply #535 on: 01-04-2011, 15:04:59 »
It's a tough decision to buy this game are not...if it doesnt have mod tools every hope for playing this game for years will end, just like BF2. Probably EA will not let release mod tools because it will hurt their DLC sales. Now that I think it, it would be a good idea to have those tools as DLC.

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« Reply #536 on: 01-04-2011, 17:04:28 »
Let's hypothetically say they did release mod tools, Yustax, which mod would you see starting with BF3?


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« Reply #537 on: 01-04-2011, 17:04:20 »
Cold war mod


I give everything for battlefield Cold war game with realistic penetration values, shell balistics, all Cold war vehicles(as much as possible), many nations (US, UK , Germanies, france, japan vs Russia, warsaw pact nations vs CHIINNAA and India and ofcourse 128-256 players on a map, infantry combat between BF2 and PR(aka FH2 style)
And everything to make COMPLETE armies

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« Reply #538 on: 01-04-2011, 18:04:12 »
Let's hypothetically say they did release mod tools, Yustax, which mod would you see starting with BF3?


Well, if someone managed to pull of a few simple changes, the result could be quite nice and make it worth getting bf3. Stuff like increased damage done by all projectiles, making the backblast more powerful for handheld AT weapons, removal of any unnecessary commander tools or some unrealistic features, reduced damage done to the destroyable environment by grenades for example, reduced tank turret speeds, limiting AT kits and such by making them pickup kits only. I could probably come up with more, if the full feature list in bf3 had been released. In general, little stuff to slow the gameplay a bit down and make the use of tactics possible, instead of just "run-around-and-click-on-the-enemy".

Or of course the exact opposite could be done by someone, who would prefer to change the gameplay in that direction.

This seems like something that could be done even without mod support, or am I wrong? Because I very well may be wrong :P

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« Reply #539 on: 01-04-2011, 18:04:12 »
@Zoo
General price inflation, more competitors due to Webshops, quality of Product inflation(this one is very subjective) and Production cost inflation, all went up while prices of games actually went down.

LOL I believe more in wealth creation theory.  ;D

More people are having real productive jobs nowadays, making some real money, therefore we have to print more money to represent the growth. Because of the increasing quantity of money in the market, the value of the money would decrease accordingly over time while the value of things remains the same (it can be considered cheaper if you believe in the "quality of product inflation").

The preorder bonus is a common marketing tactic. Generally investors wanted to see early returns from the project and gain as much as possible at the shortest period, while the value of the investment (because of the trend factor, freshness, coolness, and such) is still at the maximum. This is called maximizing sales.

My advise is for you to simply question yourself: do you really think one extra good map compels you to buy the game? (Assuming the new Karkand map would be a wonderful one). People like Lainer is good for the economy, he is a conscious spender:

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BF3 will be the cats ass.  If it is the awesome modifiable game I buy for PC is another question.  I am going to hand EA money either way.

He is going to buy one has budgeted for one.