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Re: War Thunder
« Reply #1485 on: 26-05-2014, 19:05:28 »
If you thinks you can do it better, then do it! can't? then shut up.
Not an argument, just because I can't do something better, doesn't mean I can't criticise it. Otherwise no one would ever be able to give their opinion on anything ever.

Secondly, I'm not complaining, I'm stating a fact, Gaijin is run by a bunch of imbeciles(and I don'l like them, for many reasons), I'm fed up because of how a game with such brilliant mechanics (few patches ago, WT was probably one of my favorite games) gets so mishandled by them. It pains me to see something with such a potential get slowly wasted.

Thirdly, I'm not whining in every thread, only in this one :D
But hey, my Belgian bro, anything for you, if it bothers you so much I can stop posting here :D.
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Re: War Thunder
« Reply #1486 on: 26-05-2014, 19:05:48 »
Still

balance wise

this game is heck alot better then WOT
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Re: War Thunder
« Reply #1487 on: 26-05-2014, 23:05:28 »
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Re: War Thunder
« Reply #1488 on: 26-05-2014, 23:05:46 »
D-d-damn! Now THAT'S a tonk! Does it explode when you try and go uphill? :D
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Re: War Thunder
« Reply #1489 on: 27-05-2014, 00:05:13 »
Ok, I get my hands of my Panzer IV F2 and finally a better tank with reasonable gun... But still always 1 shot frontally by RUSSIAN bias tank...  ::)

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Re: War Thunder
« Reply #1490 on: 27-05-2014, 01:05:59 »
Trough ardius testing and forum reading, I came to the conlcusion that Turrent mantle armor is not modeled ingame yes  ???

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Re: War Thunder
« Reply #1491 on: 27-05-2014, 01:05:13 »
The Jagdpanzer IV L70 reliably bounces 85mm shots though. The gun penetrates everything from its tier. The problem seems to be the hitboxes. Often side shots or rear shots don´t do damage, because you missed the "engine-" or "ammunition-hitbox" by a few centimeters.

Is there a higher chance to blow up the tank with a larger caliber? Is the chance to destroy the target the same with both 75mm guns (L48 and L70) and only the penetration differs?
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Re: War Thunder
« Reply #1492 on: 27-05-2014, 08:05:36 »
Ok, I get my hands of my Panzer IV F2 and finally a better tank with reasonable gun... But still always 1 shot frontally by RUSSIAN bias tank...  ::)

You do realize that you only get 50 millimeters of frontal unsloped armour on upper hull and 25 millimeters on lower glacis in that thing (historically, can't remember ingame values off the top of my head), and the russian APHE will blast you when it penetrates on standard combat ranges (usually around 200-300 meters on Kuban, for example). Yes, WHEN it penetrates, no ifs on this one.
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Re: War Thunder
« Reply #1493 on: 27-05-2014, 08:05:15 »
Trough ardius testing and forum reading, I came to the conlcusion that Turrent mantle armor is not modeled ingame yes  ???

Judging from the fact that my Panther D/A/G always got penetrated in the turret while in hull-down (even by T-34-57s) would suggest the same thing, now that you mention it.

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Re: War Thunder
« Reply #1494 on: 27-05-2014, 08:05:06 »
Trough ardius testing and forum reading, I came to the conlcusion that Turrent mantle armor is not modeled ingame yes  ???

Judging from the fact that my Panther D/A/G always got penetrated in the turret while in hull-down (even by T-34-57s) would suggest the same thing, now that you mention it.

Apparently the premium Sherman has it, according to devblog: http://devblog.warthunder.com/2014/05/22/m4-748-sherman-armour-changes-part-2/?hl=en

Are you sure that on the A and D model it's not actually the shot trap in the lower gun mantlet that gets you? This should be corrected in the G though with the flat part.
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Re: War Thunder
« Reply #1495 on: 27-05-2014, 12:05:13 »
Ok, I get my hands of my Panzer IV F2 and finally a better tank with reasonable gun... But still always 1 shot frontally by RUSSIAN bias tank...  ::)

You do realize that you only get 50 millimeters of frontal unsloped armour on upper hull and 25 millimeters on lower glacis in that thing (historically, can't remember ingame values off the top of my head), and the russian APHE will blast you when it penetrates on standard combat ranges (usually around 200-300 meters on Kuban, for example). Yes, WHEN it penetrates, no ifs on this one.

So, this only confirms fact that this game is unbalanced...

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Re: War Thunder
« Reply #1496 on: 27-05-2014, 12:05:11 »
Good, I don't want another mirror balanced game, I want Panthers explode on side shots, ISU-152 having to wait a week before it reloads, and M18 hellcats going 90+ kph.

But you know, when a Uber Superior Master Race German tank is destroyed, it's unrealistic, unfair, unbalanced, Russian biased and downright evil.
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Re: War Thunder
« Reply #1497 on: 27-05-2014, 13:05:47 »
Good, I don't want another mirror balanced game, I want Panthers explode on side shots, ISU-152 having to wait a week before it reloads, and M18 hellcats going 90+ kph.

But you know, when a Uber Superior Master Race German tank is destroyed, it's unrealistic, unfair, unbalanced, Russian biased and downright evil.

But this makes no sense in tier gaming, you know? What's the point of having tiers, when the best tank from one side is weaker than the weakest tank of other on the same tier?  ???

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Re: War Thunder
« Reply #1498 on: 27-05-2014, 13:05:48 »
Trough ardius testing and forum reading, I came to the conlcusion that Turrent mantle armor is not modeled ingame yes  ???

Judging from the fact that my Panther D/A/G always got penetrated in the turret while in hull-down (even by T-34-57s) would suggest the same thing, now that you mention it.

Apparently the premium Sherman has it, according to devblog: http://devblog.warthunder.com/2014/05/22/m4-748-sherman-armour-changes-part-2/?hl=en

Are you sure that on the A and D model it's not actually the shot trap in the lower gun mantlet that gets you? This should be corrected in the G though with the flat part.

the premium sherman will have it, once they release a minor update. I guess they will add them some time in the future, just not yeat ingame.

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Re: War Thunder
« Reply #1499 on: 27-05-2014, 17:05:23 »

But you know, when a Uber Superior Master Race German tank is destroyed, it's unrealistic, unfair, unbalanced, Russian biased and downright evil.
A PZIV exploding frontally everything you shoot trough the turret, is not realistic because their is no ammo in that location.


The PZIV, simular to other german tanks. Has its ammo located on the hull floor and side sponsons.And a few ready rounds on the turret sides. The sherman (early) and T34, had their ammo stored in the side sponsons AND in the turret all around

This is why starting from the M4A3, the entire ammo loadout was located in the hull floor, and the ammo was stored in wet ammo racks (also any M4 sherman that landed in normandy, had their ammo locations converted. Read Steven zalago's armored thunderbolt)


So PZIV's ammo blowing up because of frontal penetration? Thats not realistic bro
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