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Re: Recoilles rifles
« Reply #15 on: 15-06-2010, 23:06:20 »
I was saying it because u have airborne there and linked it afterwards 2 P-d-H cause of the Stugs.
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Re: Recoilles rifles
« Reply #16 on: 16-06-2010, 01:06:26 »
Technically, the Panzerfaust is a recoilless gun, because it has no rifling. It's quite common however, to see the term recoilless rifle used anyway.

The M18 wasn't used until April 1945, so there's no way you'll see it in Purple Heart Lane.

I was saying it because u have airborne there and linked it afterwards 2 P-d-H cause of the Stugs.

No airbourne on that map.

Anyways, the only recoilless rifles that could be in current maps would be the german 75mm versions that saw action in Crete.

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Re: Recoilles rifles
« Reply #17 on: 23-06-2010, 18:06:54 »
Technically, the Panzerfaust is a recoilless gun, because it has no rifling. It's quite common however, to see the term recoilless rifle used anyway.

The M18 wasn't used until April 1945, so there's no way you'll see it in Purple Heart Lane.

I was saying it because u have airborne there and linked it afterwards 2 P-d-H cause of the Stugs.

No airbourne on that map.

Anyways, the only recoilless rifles that could be in current maps would be the german 75mm versions that saw action in Crete.
Ah, I was wondering how long that one would take to be suggested.
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Re: Recoilles rifles
« Reply #18 on: 23-06-2010, 20:06:24 »
Its been suggested many times before, the devs are fully aware of it :P

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Re: Recoilles rifles
« Reply #19 on: 23-06-2010, 20:06:32 »
Once again, Company of Heroes fails as  a history teacher.

Reading about the use of this thing, the armor penetration was worse than the bazookas. The HE-round however, was great. So this would become sort of an US PIAT. It was used with great success in the pacific theatre against japanese emplacements.
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Re: Recoilles rifles
« Reply #20 on: 23-06-2010, 21:06:39 »
@Siben

Have you shot one? how can you know about its force?

and i said german k98 launcher, not the m1 with the ring thingy

unless you know one who has ofcourse shot it... ;D

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Re: Recoilles rifles
« Reply #21 on: 23-06-2010, 22:06:38 »
What are you guys talking about? You just have to slap it on the end of the gun and shoot it. At least COD WAW does it right. No fiddling about wasting time, and its easy to fire accurately at men and zombie alike.

So I was having a debate with my friend about whether the faust was a recoilless rifle, and apparently I was almost right, though he was right about it not having rifling and thus not being a rifle...

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Re: Recoilles rifles
« Reply #22 on: 23-06-2010, 22:06:57 »
@ snoox: About the US Rifle grenade, look at this film
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vukYdgepSZk

About the German rifle grenade. I would not know. I think it will only be full force so one hell of a kick. There might be a valve on the side to release some pressure so  you can adjust the range that way (and kick) but i have seen them from very close by and did not see anything.

I wanted to buy the riflegrenade kit for my mauser, but those things go from €700 to €900 so it will take a while before i ever buy one.

If you give me the cash i will even make you a nice film and a 2 page long text of how it is :) I will even buy different German riflegrenades to test it with.

My father shot riflegrenades in the army, and so did my grandfather, maybe one of them did it with a mauser, will ask next time i see them and post it here if they did.


@ flyboy: If you just put the grenade on the end and shoot your grenade will definatly fail and very likely explode in your face. You are not sepose to shoot true them, i have see an original box of German rifle grenades once and the blank bullet that you have to use is taped on the grenadae itself.

And i think another tread on this forum came to the conclusion that the faust is a recoilless gun.

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Re: Recoilles rifles
« Reply #23 on: 24-06-2010, 01:06:48 »
Yeah Ill be able to clear that debate up at least. :D

And to clarify, I laughed my ass off when my former roomate and some guys on our floor were playing COD:WAW and pulled the M1 with Rifle Grenades kit on zombie mode. I asked them when exactly in the 1.3 second animation you had time to slip in the priming round (into the Garand receiver no less), remove the grenade from its pouch, and carefully attach it to the rifle, but they kinda gave be blank looks. :P aahhh COD...

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Re: Recoilles rifles
« Reply #24 on: 24-06-2010, 02:06:29 »
Rifle nades give off a massive kick, but it WAS possible to fire them from the shoulder.  The K98k nade launcher had specilized sights for it to be fired thusly.  Just, if you didn't do it right, it could break your collar bone.

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Re: Recoilles rifles
« Reply #25 on: 24-06-2010, 03:06:24 »
Still better than the knee mortar.

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Re: Recoilles rifles
« Reply #26 on: 24-06-2010, 11:06:46 »
Once again, Company of Heroes fails as  a history teacher.

Reading about the use of this thing, the armor penetration was worse than the bazookas. The HE-round however, was great. So this would become sort of an US PIAT. It was used with great success in the pacific theatre against japanese emplacements.
The M18 was used in cologne, remagen and other February 1945 events.

While indeed yes its AT performance was worse, its HE performance was devestating. It could be aimed with no problem inside a bunker from long range
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Re: Recoilles rifles
« Reply #27 on: 24-06-2010, 18:06:33 »
Once again, Company of Heroes fails as  a history teacher.

Reading about the use of this thing, the armor penetration was worse than the bazookas. The HE-round however, was great. So this would become sort of an US PIAT. It was used with great success in the pacific theatre against japanese emplacements.
The M18 was used in cologne, reymegen and other February 1945 events.

While indeed yes its AT performance was worse, its HE performance was devestating. It could be aimed with no problem inside a bunker from long range

It was the predecessor 2 the Zook so u can't expect any real devastating performance from it with AP. But HE is just like any other explosives device.
Nooow, if we could just get destroyable environment - bunkers etc.  :) ::)

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Re: Recoilles rifles
« Reply #28 on: 24-06-2010, 22:06:26 »
No worries


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Re: Recoilles rifles
« Reply #29 on: 25-06-2010, 08:06:33 »
It was the predecessor 2 the Zook so u can't expect any real devastating performance from it with AP. But HE is just like any other explosives device.
Nooow, if we could just get destroyable environment - bunkers etc.  :) ::)
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